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Knowing people that work on hardware design at Apple, a lot of design decision on iPads and iPhones are based on how to make devices as compact as possible and robust and drop resistant and how to achieve battery-life/performance balances for good user experience….mixed in with production economy.
I have zero insight on the headphone port decision. But have heard discussions about the battery issue.
The motive of every business is to make a profit. That's a given. When a business places making a profit above any benefit to their customers, they won't be around long. That's not the Apple of today, nor was it (entirely) the Apple of Steve Jobs. Remember Michael Spindler? Gil Amelio? They were terrible for both Apple and their customers.
Anyway, back to the thread...
I have to agree with you about GEOSWAM Tenor Sax.
I never use GeoShred for “shredding” or making other pseudo-guitar sounds (except for the feedback sometimes)
The app is on my devices just so I can have access to that honking, squealing, growling thing of beauty!
Much off-topic in this thread…
We're getting it back on topic! Let's go!
@Gavinski, are these Advanced functions on iOS SWAM instruments still locked?
Yes, but the parameters are exposed to auv3 hosts so you can still manipulate these via midi 😉
Great, thank you! 🤩
Wow really? You can change the parameters which are locked via AUv3? Does this works for any SWAM instrument? (cannot test it right now)
Only have viola but yes, params exposed in AUM. Didn’t know that so good news but don’t understand why locked in app?
Gav said in the video that they wanted to sell this as IAP at some point.
Probably because it’s impossible to take the same high price on iPad as on desktop…
Just now there’s also campaign from SWAM, $20 each for all instruments on iPad…
Have you confirmed that changing the exposed parameters actually affects things?
I can confirm that we can automate locked parameters and have actual effect - tested in Logic Pro…
Changing the exposed parameters via midi does affect things and it works, and always has done since release, in all the audio modeling apps.
Tried a random few and couldn’t tell any difference but tbh there’s some unlocked ones like that also. User error probably. Will take others word for it.
Guys don’t kill me, but those unlocked controls are already too much for what I need, as it is for now, only sky's the limit.
But those Advanced controls; Release Time, Dynamic Pitch, Auto Expression, etc. will be the only obstacle for my set of preferred fx’s. So they will probably stay intact anyway.
The unlocked advanced controls are already more than most people need. These things are making very, very subtle differences for the most part. I fiddle with them on the standalones just because I can. But the truth is, the basic preset version in Geoshred is usually just exactly right 99% of the time.
The unlocked controls aren’t just exposed in AUM, but they are also assignable to a controller in the midi table within the SWAM app itself. With sax: flutter tongue, harmonic structure and formant mobs are greyed out, but can still be assigned to a controller. These screen shots are on my iPhone, so it looks a bit different.
The cello samples in ThumbJam were recorded by Zoe Keating ( https://zoekeating.com ), and her expression really made it special... still holds up after all these years. Maybe one day I'll do a more detailed version of just that.
If you have an expressive controller, using one of the modeled instruments (SWAM etc), is definitely the way to go though...
The strings in ThumbJam are ace. Very good job. Layering together with just one instance of a Swam instrument can sound really good to my ears.
It’s great to see the legendary @sonosaurus is still around on this forum!
Yeah, the cello in Thumbjam is really good, and, many other instruments on this classic app…
Yes, locked SWAM parameters aren’t available only in AUv3 mode. You just need to assign CC mapping as you wish from MIDI IN events.
By the way, just to let you know that advanced parameters in GEOSWAM were also available by “simply” tweaking the XML preset file. These parameters were hidden in the UI but perfectly accessible in the XML.
Well, that was only until the last version. The dev seems to have fixed this backdoor hack.
No wonder thumb-cello is my fav. Zoe Keating’s music is amazing!
I tried SWAM, but need so much more practice to make it sound like a beginner cello player
Appreciate this info. Thought my ears were shot (I did test on earbuds on a train as an excuse!) 🙏🏻
Can’t agree that locked parameters in the SWAM instruments leave a subtle changed in the instrument sound…
As an example, SWAM Clarinet has Flutter locked, and when automate this that’s a huge difference in sound with full flutter…
The same goes for many other instruments and locked parameters…
I agree. Yesterday I tried "Vibrato Fade In" and "Dynamic Transitions" on Cello and they were pretty useful and not really that subtle. Not all have big impact on the final output but some are definitely not useless.
Flutter is on the other end indeed. It’s an extreme effect that I don’t like. It’s available in the GeoShred version for less money. I didn't realize the standalones don't offer it. Maybe a good argument for buying the GS version instead.
I have not used vibrato fade in because I prefer playing the vibrato myself.
What does dynamic transitions do? I don’t have that one.
Do you have Viola? I’m testing on iPhone and vibrato fade in seems to do nothing…
To answer the initial question, we forgot to mention Tomofon from Klevgrand :
