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Since the in-app manual only covers the basics. For those who want to dive deep into iProphet the original VS manual is an interesting source:
http://manuals.fdiskc.com/flat/Sequential Circuits Prophet VS Owners Manual.pdf
Obviously the interface is different, but the underlying structure is the same ..mostly ;-)
Page 15-37 describes some of the waveforms.
Thanks for that manual link.
@busker said:
@busker
Took me awhile to try this but that did the trick...many thanks, now I'm not limited to playing with iProphet inside Tabletop...
Not to mention iMini...
Did I say many thanks? (#%¥%ing cool...now BM2 runs all my favorite synthys as IAA, in iOS 8 no less)
Anyone having issues with really low-tone hanging notes? Once the issue starts it will stick on any preset.
@CalCutta said:
I do, they're aware, trying to solve it.
@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Go for it!
As for iSEM, an analog synth has to warm up for quite a while before being played. Maybe they modeled that too? ;-)
But seriously, it takes computing power to model things and it can only be so efficient. I use iSEM live and it is rock solid. That counts for everything, and it has made me way more than I spent on it.
iSEM seems to start a lot faster though on iOS 8 after the latest update, at least on the Air. That, or I'm imagining things
Could the support for 64 bit devices improve loading times?
No idea(?). Perhaps Rolf did some further under the hood optimizations or something
Can someone please confirm this. When I load iProphet through AB2 in Cubasis all fine. Added to a track. Than I add for example Animoog. Still ok. Than third Alchemy and nothing. Only an empty audio track, with routing "Audiobus" added. Also no audio when playing Alchemy. When I than choose Alchemy and add it in the routing of this audio track, result the same. No Audio.
I tried it with several variations. At the end its always like this. If iProphet is involved, at the beginning or later, it borks the audio output of itself or of another device.
Anyone the same experience?
iPad Air, IOS 7.12
Seems like iProphet automation is lost when I load my Tabletop session. I had to check if its the same with iMini but that one works. At least I can record the automated part into the recorder device and load it into any of the samplers inside Tabletop quite easily. Anyway I'll be probably writing another email.
@firejan82 said:
Awesome thanks for the info!
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Hi guys, my name is Jay, I work for Retronyms and I was the primary developer for iProphet (along with some work from other devs here).
I'll see if I can address some common criticisms/problems/etc.:
@CalCutta said:
We do know about this problem, and it originates from the desktop VST. I can't guarantee a fix will happen for this. You can load a different preset and then come back to the one you were on to kill the low tones.
Please feel free to let me know of any other crucial bugs/etc. going on, sometimes it's easy to miss a bug from our side. You can also tweet us and email support; my own email is [email protected], but I honestly can't guarantee a bug will be fixed faster just because it is the developer's email.
Thanks!
EDIT: I forgot to mention the Unison Detune Knob; personally, I'm hoping for a slight redesign to add a switch that can turn it on and off, but that knob controls the detune as well as the unison setting (set the knob to 0 to turn it completely off, anything else will turn it on).
@mana
Hey Jay- thanks for checking in here, your presence, help, and candor, is appreciated.
After another member here pointed out a workaround that allowed me to use iProphet in my IOS DAW of choice (Fre Ewi + MidiBridge hooked iProphet into BM2's IAA midi sequencing) I became yet again a very happy customer of Retronyms, and a very happy user of a very cool synth...
Candor (and kindness) is always appreciated.
Thank you for posting here Jay. It's always appreciated when a developer shows up here, and I think it is felt that retronyms doesn't listen. Posting here helps me (and others I would guess) place more trust I your products.
That being said, Not to discourage, but:
"Anyone having issues with really low-tone hanging notes? Once the issue starts it will stick on any preset.
We do know about this problem, and it originates from the desktop VST. I can't guarantee a fix will happen for this. You can load a different preset and then come back to the one you were on to kill the low tones."
I'm confused as to why a known bug would then be ported over, it seems like that would be a reason not to port the app to iOS as sticking notes make the synth essentially useless in any sort of critical situation (ie, paying gigs). Is this the same reason that imini had (has?) stuck note issues? If Arturia is aware and hasn't fixed, then that's not good either. Apps/ synths that sound great but are not reliable (that's not the part of vintage synths we'd want modeled!) don't do much beyond the toy phase. That being said, if the bug is in arturia's code it does not seem to be evident in iSEM.
I am not trying to bait you or be sarcastic, it's a serious question and a curious situation unless I misunderstood. I don't own Iprophet as it is not a synth sound I am partial to, in hardware or software form, but do own imini and would love to rely on it more because it sounds so good. Thanks for being a part of the forum.
A very fair question.
I'd love to hear the answer to that question, and others, too. There's been a lot of well justified venting here about their apps.
Jay may be able to officially address some issues. Others not. If something crops up and he is unable to provide a satisfactory answer, given the long history of beefs with Retronyms that he's probably well aware of, I would ask that we consider before posting a potential rant. It's in everyone's interest to give Jay some breathing room here to see if we can make things better from our point of view with Retronyms apps.
Actually, another thing I've been meaning to post for a while. I have never, ever experienced such close and active interaction with developers of so many apps I use as in this forum. It's very unusual, at least for me, and incredibly cool.
@miguelmarcos said:
Well said and definitely not beneficial to rant at Jay, I'm happy he posted. But it is a curious situation and I'd love to know the thinking behind that. Maybe it's on arturia's end, and they are quite unresponsive in customer support.
@ Jay and the rest, still no one can reproduce this? Also sent an email to support retronymus, but no answer yet.
@helmutmaria said:
@mana
Thanks for informing us Jay.
Deleting of user presets: will this be possible after an update? The two workarounds are not practical.
How about the Wave-loading bug?: http://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/85542#Comment_85542
The main Pan knob doesn't pan the sound (regardless of the "All voices" settings).
Some presets don't load the right 'Keyboard controls'. In other words: the visual knob/switch positions are not corresponding to the actual sound. - Example: CEngle bank > Basses > Bass001. Notice how HOLD lights up but is not really active. Same for the Unison knob, open but not active and with Unison back to zero and Voices set to Circular the sound mysteriously remains monophonic. This happens with more of the CEngle presets.
Last but not least, why was Pressure and Velocity removed from the mod-matrix (in favor of Accelerate X & Y)?
I would also like to thank ( @mana ) Jay for stopping by.The feeling to not left alone in the dust from a developer will always create a much more peaceful and helpful athmosphere,guaranteed
I already sent a mail and while i unfortunately expect none of my wishes coming true (because Arturia already left this features from the original VS out)i'm also hoping you can at least revert the descision to replace velocity/pressure with XY Accelaration.
The hanging low tones along with wrong waves loading would be nice to see fixed as well.Thanks for listening!
@mana said:
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... I don't like this answer at all.
...cause it's a totally stupid answer...
I appreciate the dev appearing here to comment - so thanks for the info. If it's not happening often... It's on my wishlist
I've spent at least two hours playing iProphet and haven't experienced any stuck notes. Not denying that it may be occurring for some users, just saying it's not completely broken either.
Anyways, as it seems to be only a problem for me, I just use iProphet now as IAA when its up to more than 2 apps in AB2 + iP. Works without a problem.
@helmutmaria said:
@mrufino1 said:
To clarify, it's a bug in the desktop Prophet V (not in the other Arturia VSTs AFAIK). We didn't catch it until late into development, and, although it is a nasty bug, we judged it okay to release as it's easy to bypass, and, in our testing, didn't come up too often. It's unfortunate it's around (and we even tried to fix it), but we didn't want to delay Prophet more than it already was.
@miguelmarcos said:
They're giving me a lot of freedom to talk here; I asked Dan about posting here and he was very encouraged about it. To be honest, I'm not that aware of the beef; I just know that some Audiobus members dislike us
It might surprise you that Retronyms is more Audiobus friendly than you think. I'd rather not discuss that much, but my feeling from Retronyms is that they're open to using Audiobus more (and attempted to in the past).
@helmutmaria said:
Our tester has probably seen this now, I'll make sure he gets to it.
@R_2 said:
We've always had plans to be able to rename and delete custom presets, and I hope we'll be able to fix this in the next update (although I don't know when that will be, yet, I haven't had a chance to talk to my boss as of this post).
That's definitely a huge problem, and will get fixed by the next update. That's probably on me, sorry.
I want that knob removed, because it doesn't do anything. Long story.
We'll definitely look at this, that's pretty odd. I personally really want a Unison switch added to the UI because I think that's some of the source of problems with Unison and the Unison Detune knob.
This is a bit dicey to reveal but in short it was a decision made by both Arturia and Retronyms, but after seeing feedback there's a chance it'll get changed to Pressure/Velocity.
@firejan82 said:
I'm sorry you don't, but I'm not gonna sit around and post lies. It's the unfortunate reality of software development. If Arturia wants to fix it, then we'll take the fix in an instant.
@Zymos said:
Again, it's the best answer I can give. Sorry you don't like it, but at least there's a way to bypass it.