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Igor vasiliev - no input mixer - RELEASED!

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  • @rvr said:
    You can do the same in aum, logic mixer and drambo but much more versatile.

    don’t know about Drambo but you definitely can’t create feedback sound in AUM or Logic just using mixer routings

  • rvrrvr
    edited August 2023

    Lol what? Just route an output bus or send back into the mixer. You can do crazy fx chains inbetween in both.

  • Of course you need to feed something like a bit of noise or other signal to start it off. On hw mixer you have amp hum but in digital you need either emulate or generate some sound

  • @rvr said:
    Lol what? Just route an output bus or send back into the mixer. You can do crazy fx chains inbetween in both.

    Any chance of a photo of the setup in aum? I have done feedback loops before but only with some kind of sound source

  • @Gavinski said:

    @rvr said:
    Lol what? Just route an output bus or send back into the mixer. You can do crazy fx chains inbetween in both.

    Any chance of a photo of the setup in aum? I have done feedback loops before but only with some kind of sound source

    Surely u need some noise or whatever as input?

  • rvrrvr
    edited August 2023

    yes, you need a sound / noise source otherwise you will not be able to start feedback in digital environment.

  • @rvr said:
    Of course you need to feed something like a bit of noise or other signal to start it off. On hw mixer you have amp hum but in digital you need either emulate or generate some sound

    Yes I didn't see this comment earlier, I thought you were suggesting it's possible without input which, of course, it wouldn't be. Now you have clarified what you meant to say, all good

  • edited August 2023

    @rvr said:
    yes, you need a sound / noise source otherwise you will not be able to start feedback in digital environment.

    ah ok, interesting, just tried it in aum it works, you was right ..

    but it is even possible to route signal in logic the way that it makes feedback ? i think at least desktop logic prevents you from connectio which would cause feedback

  • edited August 2023

    Just adding that Doug has done a video on this technique, and Jakob Haq has done a video on using feedback in AUM (making a shimmer reverb).

    https://www.youtube.com/live/YT-O6mwZebQ?si=ZfL3q3d-um9ItsmP

    And Sarah Belle Reid uses feedback techniques a lot, not just in no-input mixing. My piece Chaotic Experiment 2 was inspired by her Mavis course, using the Oscillator and LFO to modulate each other’s rates:

    Apologies for shameless self promotion: I’m just fascinated by feedback patching. Though wary: always use a limiter to protect your hearing.

  • @bygjohn said:
    Just adding that Doug has done a video on this technique, and Jakob Haq has done a video on using feedback in AUM (making a shimmer reverb).

    https://www.youtube.com/live/YT-O6mwZebQ?si=ZfL3q3d-um9ItsmP

    And Sarah Belle Reid uses feedback techniques a lot, not just in no-input mixing. My piece Chaotic Experiment 2 was inspired by her Mavis course, using the Oscillator and LFO to modulate each other’s rates:

    Apologies for shameless self promotion: I’m just fascinated by feedback patching. Though wary: always use a limiter to protect your hearing.

    Love that!!! Good work! Here’s a little horror show I did feeding back into silo in aum

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cvouk2wsUeJ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

  • @sevenape said:

    @bygjohn said:
    Just adding that Doug has done a video on this technique, and Jakob Haq has done a video on using feedback in AUM (making a shimmer reverb).

    https://www.youtube.com/live/YT-O6mwZebQ?si=ZfL3q3d-um9ItsmP

    And Sarah Belle Reid uses feedback techniques a lot, not just in no-input mixing. My piece Chaotic Experiment 2 was inspired by her Mavis course, using the Oscillator and LFO to modulate each other’s rates:

    Apologies for shameless self promotion: I’m just fascinated by feedback patching. Though wary: always use a limiter to protect your hearing.

    Love that!!! Good work! Here’s a little horror show I did feeding back into silo in aum

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cvouk2wsUeJ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

    I’m going to have to give Silo a good workout, I keep forgetting how good it is, and the feedback here is icing on the cake!

  • @dendy said:

    @rvr said:
    yes, you need a sound / noise source otherwise you will not be able to start feedback in digital environment.

    ah ok, interesting, just tried it in aum it works, you was right ..

    but it is even possible to route signal in logic the way that it makes feedback ? i think at least desktop logic prevents you from connectio which would cause feedback

    Yeah, I did that in logic for Ipad in the same way as in aum, just create more bus channels for sends and route them into mixer inputs for audio channels, then feed returned channels into same sends. Can do really intricate stuff and record it the same time. The only thing I actually liked about logic😜

  • No input mixing is fun.
    I did a tutorial live on how to set it up with any hardware mixer, it can get bonkers fast🤣😂
    https://www.youtube.com/live/YT-O6mwZebQ?si=UbpCUS0KE04QyPDL

  • Reiteration time: don’t forget a limiter if you’re going to experiment with it! My ears hurt..

  • @Fingolfinzz said:

    @JeffChasteen said:
    Now Nembrini just needs to come out with
    a Death Metal emulation, and I can have an IOS version of my first noise setup: no input mixer/feedback loop, Ratshack Reverb, and Death Metal pedal.

    That pedal was wild haha, I forgot about that one

    I honestly think the majority were bought by noise wranglers. I’ve seen people with a half dozen Death Metals in their setups. More than a few times.

  • The demo for this app sounds amazing. Really beautiful tones. Too bad I cannot imagine a musical use for it. I hope someone more talented than I will inspire me with it.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    The demo for this app sounds amazing. Really beautiful tones. Too bad I cannot imagine a musical use for it. I hope someone more talented than I will inspire me with it.

    make some wild tones, slap a gate on it and have it sidechained to only trigger when a drum or loop hits!

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    The demo for this app sounds amazing. Really beautiful tones. Too bad I cannot imagine a musical use for it. I hope someone more talented than I will inspire me with it.

    My mind went crazy with musical uses as soon as I heard it 😆 but im more in the experimental camp so maybe that’s why. Talent wise, you’ve surely got me beat lol

  • Defo looking interesting, I finally tried some sound lab feedback experiments using op amps, I really want to figure out how to do it with tubes alone but might have to compromise with a hybrid as I can’t get the gain I think is necessary with the low voltages my expertise is rated for…

  • Sweeeet, now I can definitely build it in drambo successfully :)

  • Igor vasiliev is the SOPHIE of ios music apps

  • Any ETA yet?

  • @louis said:
    Igor vasiliev is the SOPHIE of ios music apps

    Yep. Both mad genius’s. RIP Sophie.

  • @Krupa said:
    Defo looking interesting, I finally tried some sound lab feedback experiments using op amps, I really want to figure out how to do it with tubes alone but might have to compromise with a hybrid as I can’t get the gain I think is necessary with the low voltages my expertise is rated for…

    Ooh post results!!!

  • @HotStrange said:
    Any ETA yet?

    Early September I think

  • @sevenape said:

    @Krupa said:
    Defo looking interesting, I finally tried some sound lab feedback experiments using op amps, I really want to figure out how to do it with tubes alone but might have to compromise with a hybrid as I can’t get the gain I think is necessary with the low voltages my expertise is rated for…

    Ooh post results!!!

    Actually, I’ve just designed a super simple circuit on the iOS simulation software iCircuit that uses a single disk triode and seems to be producing the kinda nasty sawtooth you get with this stuff… I’ll try and get down to the workshops in town tomorrow and give it a quick whirl… I actually posted a video of Friday’s op amp result as a reply to the tweet above, shameless I know 😅

  • edited August 2023

    Hope its midi mappable. Igor usually decides to only issue some parameters and got a faderfox pc12 ( 8 x 6 spare ) Cant choose what to map because of using Drambo. Standard drum parameters. Euclidean drum parameters. Euclidean synth parameters. Semi pointless. Maybe this app will be best.

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