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Drambo 2.25!

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  • -Macro's/module for exposing auv3 parameters when Drambo is used as auv3?

    -a way to prevent 'cable' mode when changing a knob too quickly.

    These are the only two i hope for soon.

    More Features are great. Workflow fixes are better.

  • edited September 2023

    @Luxthor said:

    @sigma79 said:
    First synth build.

    Think it sounds Scottish.

    Wavetable dosent really need reverb.

    but will probably need its own ipad. Gain midi controller. Bt keyboard and embrace the hiss.

    For some unknown reason, I like the sound very much, nostalgic I would say. Great work! 🤩

    Cheers Luxthor and szczyp.

    Maybe sounds more ok, where I made it.

    Unsure of the spline. Different modes are different sound. Maybe its a wavegenerator and also an additional wave like bleass fusion and also a phase of both ?

    Sometimes wavetable synth is like terra pro. Where you cant just add a module before generator. In my case. Some effects couldnt be added but also dissapeared but are available with a synth build save.

  • Great update! I’m going to knuckle down and really learn Drambo. The lack of midi import/export was something that held me back till now. The new sequencer module is brilliant!

    In exploring the new sequencer module I noted some odd behaviour. Some midi clips fail to import. I’m trying MobileMusicPro essentials 80s pop pack and so far nothing imports. The track expands but no notes. If I load the same file in Atom2, export it and load that file it works. Something about these midi clips Drambo doesn’t like.

    Other weirdness which I don’t think is intentional - if I import a clip into a sequencer module and copy/paste the module the controls on the copy do nothing. The controls on the first sequencer change both modules. If I import the same clip into the second sequencer it’s controls start working normally. It’s like the controls are associated with the first instance of the clip instead of the instance of the module.

    Amazing app - I’m sure the dev will clean up some of these little quirks.

  • @rheslip said:
    Great update! I’m going to knuckle down and really learn Drambo. The lack of midi import/export was something that held me back till now. The new sequencer module is brilliant!

    In exploring the new sequencer module I noted some odd behaviour. Some midi clips fail to import. I’m trying MobileMusicPro essentials 80s pop pack and so far nothing imports. The track expands but no notes. If I load the same file in Atom2, export it and load that file it works. Something about these midi clips Drambo doesn’t like.

    Other weirdness which I don’t think is intentional - if I import a clip into a sequencer module and copy/paste the module the controls on the copy do nothing. The controls on the first sequencer change both modules. If I import the same clip into the second sequencer it’s controls start working normally. It’s like the controls are associated with the first instance of the clip instead of the instance of the module.

    Amazing app - I’m sure the dev will clean up some of these little quirks.

    How are you exporting midi?

    The clip menu.

    Swipe up.

    Cant see any option.

  • @sigma79 said:
    First synth build.

    Think it sounds Scottish.

    Wavetable dosent really need reverb.

    but will probably need its own ipad. Gain midi controller. Bt keyboard and embrace the hiss.

    Agreed it does have something
    of the Scottish in the sound.

    Interestingly enough it also sounds
    like there’s a voice speaking in there.

    Nicely done.

  • @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:
    First synth build.

    Think it sounds Scottish.

    Wavetable dosent really need reverb.

    but will probably need its own ipad. Gain midi controller. Bt keyboard and embrace the hiss.

    Agreed it does have something
    of the Scottish in the sound.

    Interestingly enough it also sounds
    like there’s a voice speaking in there.

    Nicely done.

    Cheers Grav.

  • @sigma79 said:
    How are you exporting midi?

    The clip menu.

    Swipe up.

    Cant see any option.

  • This sequencer module is awesome! All of a sudden, it makes generative stuff pretty fun and easy to come up with! My favorite module for sure! 👍

  • @Luxthor said:

    @sigma79 said:
    How are you exporting midi?

    The clip menu.

    Swipe up.

    Cant see any option.

    Cheers Luxthor.

  • wimwim
    edited September 2023

    @Robin2 said:

    @dendy said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @rvr said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Note names aren’t displayed on the active sequencer steps if there’s more than one bar present? This didn’t used to be the case did it? Expected? Bug? @giku_beepstreet?

    That only happens if your iDevice screen is not wide enough. Note names are not shown if too much of the text would be invisible.
    Tap and/or drag on the navigation bar (lower center in your screenshot) to select only one bar.

    But were showed in pre-update build. Its intended?

    Yes, exactly my point - they were shown pre update on the same iDevice screen hence why I flagged it as a possible bug @rs2000. @giku_beepstreet? iPad 9th Generation.

    They are never shown when step size is such small … for example on iPhone in portrait mote tey are not there but as soon as i rotate to landscape mode they are shown.. that’s ok imho ..

    Yes, I get the point, I’m just saying that they used to be displayed pre update (in the same scenario on the same device) and therefore I’m asking if this is a deliberate, intended change or a bug? If it’s a deliberate change, I don’t think it’s a useful one.

    I’m not imagining things am I - they did used to be displayed pre update? I never noticed them not being displayed when I had just two bars worth of sequencer displayed on my iPad before; I’m sure I would have noticed because I definitely felt there was something odd about them not being displayed after the update!? @giku_beepstreet, maybe you could chime in and clarify things?

    You're not crazy. It has changed some. I was able to try on my phone pre and post update. Before the update, the label would show even if the text was wider than the step - only part of it would be visible, with the sides cut off. After the update they show only as long as the text fits on the step. On my iPhone I could display two bars with the labels, but with four they'd go.

    I see it as a good change but can see why others might not.

  • I wish the whole beepstreet forum and drambo threads from here were in an AI chatbot like you can make on lingoblocks.com. When those are multi-modal with pics it's going to be excellent for learning. Already works pretty good with some small Drambo notes, Wiki and the manual. Wondering how far we are from asking the AI to make synth recreations in Drambo 🤖

    Anyhow, the new sequencer is bananas. Thanks, Gikubeepsteet

  • @wim said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @dendy said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @rvr said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Note names aren’t displayed on the active sequencer steps if there’s more than one bar present? This didn’t used to be the case did it? Expected? Bug? @giku_beepstreet?

    That only happens if your iDevice screen is not wide enough. Note names are not shown if too much of the text would be invisible.
    Tap and/or drag on the navigation bar (lower center in your screenshot) to select only one bar.

    But were showed in pre-update build. Its intended?

    Yes, exactly my point - they were shown pre update on the same iDevice screen hence why I flagged it as a possible bug @rs2000. @giku_beepstreet? iPad 9th Generation.

    They are never shown when step size is such small … for example on iPhone in portrait mote tey are not there but as soon as i rotate to landscape mode they are shown.. that’s ok imho ..

    Yes, I get the point, I’m just saying that they used to be displayed pre update (in the same scenario on the same device) and therefore I’m asking if this is a deliberate, intended change or a bug? If it’s a deliberate change, I don’t think it’s a useful one.

    I’m not imagining things am I - they did used to be displayed pre update? I never noticed them not being displayed when I had just two bars worth of sequencer displayed on my iPad before; I’m sure I would have noticed because I definitely felt there was something odd about them not being displayed after the update!? @giku_beepstreet, maybe you could chime in and clarify things?

    You're not crazy. It has changed some. I was able to try on my phone pre and post update. Before the update, the label would show even if the text was wider than the step - only part of it would be visible, with the sides cut off. After the update they show only as long as the text fits on the step. On my iPhone I could display two bars with the labels, but with four they'd go.

    I see it as a good change but can see why others might not.

    Phew, well at least I wasn’t imagining it! Thanks for confirming @wim, appreciate it.

    I can see the logic of it for sure - it makes sense if you have many, many bars displayed to not show the note names - but the implementation needs refining or, ideally, the feature needs to be optional from the settings in my opinion - currently it’s a bit too eager to not show the note names on my device even though there is clearly enough space. As originally stated, on my iPad 9th Generation in portrait format it won’t show note names if there’s anything more than one bar shown…since the device width is as much as an iPhone in landscape format, that seems a bit off when compared to your experience. Maybe my device is just the awkward inbetween size where the new implementation doesn’t quite work or seem to make sense?

    I know you can tap on the bars (in the central pattern display next to the transport buttons as @rs2000 pointed out) to display them individually and therefore, in my case, have the note names displayed but that seems like an unfortunate workflow obstacle to introduce.

    Hopefully you will see this feedback @giku_beepstreet and consider refining the feature or making it optional? I’m a huge admirer of Drambo and love to use it but I’ve got to be honest and say that this, for me personally, decreases the user workflow experience rather than improving it. Everything else, great!

  • @wim said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @dendy said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @rvr said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Note names aren’t displayed on the active sequencer steps if there’s more than one bar present? This didn’t used to be the case did it? Expected? Bug? @giku_beepstreet?

    That only happens if your iDevice screen is not wide enough. Note names are not shown if too much of the text would be invisible.
    Tap and/or drag on the navigation bar (lower center in your screenshot) to select only one bar.

    But were showed in pre-update build. Its intended?

    Yes, exactly my point - they were shown pre update on the same iDevice screen hence why I flagged it as a possible bug @rs2000. @giku_beepstreet? iPad 9th Generation.

    They are never shown when step size is such small … for example on iPhone in portrait mote tey are not there but as soon as i rotate to landscape mode they are shown.. that’s ok imho ..

    Yes, I get the point, I’m just saying that they used to be displayed pre update (in the same scenario on the same device) and therefore I’m asking if this is a deliberate, intended change or a bug? If it’s a deliberate change, I don’t think it’s a useful one.

    I’m not imagining things am I - they did used to be displayed pre update? I never noticed them not being displayed when I had just two bars worth of sequencer displayed on my iPad before; I’m sure I would have noticed because I definitely felt there was something odd about them not being displayed after the update!? @giku_beepstreet, maybe you could chime in and clarify things?

    You're not crazy. It has changed some. I was able to try on my phone pre and post update. Before the update, the label would show even if the text was wider than the step - only part of it would be visible, with the sides cut off. After the update they show only as long as the text fits on the step. On my iPhone I could display two bars with the labels, but with four they'd go.

    I see it as a good change but can see why others might not.

    I have to say, I preferred being able to see note names for longer.

  • @auxmux said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Haven’t bought the IAP yet, probably gonna do that today. But have just finished messing around with the sequencer module and a couple other new features and man this update is great. Drambo is probably worth the price of an iPad on its own at this point. But being able to host AUs within such an already crazy app and making it an AU in itself os just the icing on the cake.

    Yeah, hardware sequencers can't beat its flexibility. Even buying an iPad + Drambo and a few accessories is still cheaper in most cases.

    Agreed. I’d I didn’t have an iPad and had to choose between an Elektron Octatrack or an iPad + Drambo I really think I’d choose the iPad and Drambo. It can do so much more. Especially when you factor in all the free AUs you can get to use with it. A $300 iPad + $40-50 for full Drambo unlock, and then some free AUs and you’d never need anything else.

    It’s slowly become my favorite app and a necessity at this point 😂

  • Agreed, I think in Drambo now.

  • @Robin2 : you will get more traction reporting issues to giku by doing so on Drambo’s forum on the beepstreet site.

  • @Model10000 said:
    I wish the whole beepstreet forum and drambo threads from here were in an AI chatbot like you can make on lingoblocks.com. When those are multi-modal with pics it's going to be excellent for learning. Already works pretty good with some small Drambo notes, Wiki and the manual. Wondering how far we are from asking the AI to make synth recreations in Drambo 🤖

    Some of the more advance dRambonauts are already making
    synth recreations, some are creating original and unique designs
    and some are making dRambo projects that are complete apps
    in themselves by using dRambo modules as a form of coding in itself.

  • For sure> @Gravitas said:

    @Model10000 said:
    I wish the whole beepstreet forum and drambo threads from here were in an AI chatbot like you can make on lingoblocks.com. When those are multi-modal with pics it's going to be excellent for learning. Already works pretty good with some small Drambo notes, Wiki and the manual. Wondering how far we are from asking the AI to make synth recreations in Drambo 🤖

    Some of the more advance dRambonauts are already making
    synth recreations, some are creating original and unique designs
    and some are making dRambo projects that are complete apps
    in themselves by using dRambo modules as a form of coding in itself.

    For sure. Humbled and impressed by some of the creations on Drambo's Patchstorage, many are superior to other full scale apps. I do think those and people's efforts are deserving of some patronage too.

    I don't mentally visualize well due to aphantasia, so it's hard to place things in space when I can't see everything at once with the actual sight or see very differentiated UI elements. Drambo feels like picking up a new instrument for the first time, each time, which isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes though, it'd be nice just to pull up visuals easier with an AI and hammer it with annoyingly with questions and quickly make something.

    The only releases from ios I've put out on a label have been Drambo on sequencing duties so it is rewarding even in limited ways. Have had my head in Ableton for hours a day basically from a teen to almost 40 so it's almost more of a feeling than seeing thing and don't really spend enough time in Drambo to get there. If I was using ios for it all I'd take you up on learning some more complicated things.

  • wimwim
    edited September 2023

    I had never heard of aphantasia before, @Model10000. It's fascinating. Thanks for your post. 👍🏼

  • @Model10000 said:
    I don't mentally visualize well due to aphantasia, so it's hard to place things in space when I can't see everything at once with the actual sight or see very differentiated UI elements. Drambo feels like picking up a new instrument for the first time, each time, which isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes though, it'd be nice just to pull up visuals easier with an AI and hammer it with annoyingly with questions and quickly make something.

    Most of us struggle with Drambo connections and need constant visualization of them. I can’t even imagine how hard it must be for you.

    The good thing about Drambo is that you don’t need to know all the connections once you pack all the components. But to control automation, p-locks and morphing create complete chaos very quickly. Regarding MIDI routing, I won't even start with lamentation. ;)

  • @espiegel123 said:
    @Robin2 : you will get more traction reporting issues to giku by doing so on Drambo’s forum on the beepstreet site.

    Okay, thanks for the tip, will do. Cheers.

  • .> @Luxthor said:

    @Model10000 said:
    I don't mentally visualize well due to aphantasia, so it's hard to place things in space when I can't see everything at once with the actual sight or see very differentiated UI elements. Drambo feels like picking up a new instrument for the first time, each time, which isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes though, it'd be nice just to pull up visuals easier with an AI and hammer it with annoyingly with questions and quickly make something.

    Most of us struggle with Drambo connections and need constant visualization of them. I can’t even imagine how hard it must be for you.

    The good thing about Drambo is that you don’t need to know all the connections once you pack all the components. But to control automation, p-locks and morphing create complete chaos very quickly. Regarding MIDI routing, I won't even start with lamentation. ;)

    Haha, an optional "wired mode" was one of my first requests back in the early days. But after working with it enough, I don't really miss it anymore. In more complex VCV rack and, formerly, Nord Modular patches, remember spending at least as much time finding connections in messy wirewebs and this would be even worse in Drambo where you have a strictly horizontal rack.

  • edited September 2023

    @Model10000 said:
    For sure> @Gravitas said:

    @Model10000 said:
    I wish the whole beepstreet forum and drambo threads from here were in an AI chatbot like you can make on lingoblocks.com. When those are multi-modal with pics it's going to be excellent for learning. Already works pretty good with some small Drambo notes, Wiki and the manual. Wondering how far we are from asking the AI to make synth recreations in Drambo 🤖

    Some of the more advance dRambonauts are already making
    synth recreations, some are creating original and unique designs
    and some are making dRambo projects that are complete apps
    in themselves by using dRambo modules as a form of coding in itself.

    ...
    I don't mentally visualize well due to aphantasia, so it's hard to place things in space when I can't see everything at once with the actual sight or see very differentiated UI elements.

    Do sketches on paper help?
    Even I'm doing that sometimes to not get lost in complexity.

    Drambo feels like picking up a new instrument for the first time, each time, which isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes though, it'd be nice just to pull up visuals easier with an AI and hammer it with annoyingly with questions and quickly make something.

    There are alway GI (Genuine Intelligence 😅) forums like here and at forum.beepstreet.com with a rising amount of users willing to help.
    But yeah, a Drambo AI would be possible if only someone built it.

    The only releases from ios I've put out on a label have been Drambo on sequencing duties so it is rewarding even in limited ways. Have had my head in Ableton for hours a day basically from a teen to almost 40 so it's almost more of a feeling than seeing thing and don't really spend enough time in Drambo to get there. If I was using ios for it all I'd take you up on learning some more complicated things.

    I'd love to hear your music! 😃

  • @Model10000 said:
    For sure> @Gravitas said:

    @Model10000 said:
    I wish the whole beepstreet forum and drambo threads from here were in an AI chatbot like you can make on lingoblocks.com. When those are multi-modal with pics it's going to be excellent for learning. Already works pretty good with some small Drambo notes, Wiki and the manual. Wondering how far we are from asking the AI to make synth recreations in Drambo 🤖

    Some of the more advance dRambonauts are already making
    synth recreations, some are creating original and unique designs
    and some are making dRambo projects that are complete apps
    in themselves by using dRambo modules as a form of coding in itself.

    For sure. Humbled and impressed by some of the creations on Drambo's Patchstorage, many are superior to other full scale apps. I do think those and people's efforts are deserving of some patronage too.

    Agreed.
    Some of the patches that dRambonauts design are definitely worthy of patronage
    as they can take up as much as time as developing an app.

    I don't mentally visualize well due to aphantasia, so it's hard to place things in space when I can't see everything at once with the actual sight or see very differentiated UI elements. Drambo feels like picking up a new instrument for the first time, each time, which isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes though, it'd be nice just to pull up visuals easier with an AI and hammer it with annoyingly with questions and quickly make something.

    I haven't heard of aphantasia before and I can
    comprehend why A.I would make things easier for you.

    The only releases from ios I've put out on a label have been Drambo on sequencing duties so it is rewarding even in limited ways. Have had my head in Ableton for hours a day basically from a teen to almost 40 so it's almost more of a feeling than seeing thing and don't really spend enough time in Drambo to get there. If I was using ios for it all I'd take you up on learning some more complicated things.

    Aside note, I not only teach dRambo I also teach composition,
    sound engineering, and for over a decade I was a freelance producer
    and occasional manager for over twenty artists here in the U.K.
    I still actively provide advice for quite a few artists and I'm currently developing
    a music course for under 18's.

  • @rs2000 said:
    .> @Luxthor said:

    @Model10000 said:
    I don't mentally visualize well due to aphantasia, so it's hard to place things in space when I can't see everything at once with the actual sight or see very differentiated UI elements. Drambo feels like picking up a new instrument for the first time, each time, which isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes though, it'd be nice just to pull up visuals easier with an AI and hammer it with annoyingly with questions and quickly make something.

    Most of us struggle with Drambo connections and need constant visualization of them. I can’t even imagine how hard it must be for you.

    The good thing about Drambo is that you don’t need to know all the connections once you pack all the components. But to control automation, p-locks and morphing create complete chaos very quickly. Regarding MIDI routing, I won't even start with lamentation. ;)

    Haha, an optional "wired mode" was one of my first requests back in the early days. But after working with it enough, I don't really miss it anymore. In more complex VCV rack and, formerly, Nord Modular patches, remember spending at least as much time finding connections in messy wirewebs and this would be even worse in Drambo where you have a strictly horizontal rack.

    Agreed.
    A "wired" mode would just get in the way for
    some of the designs that I've also been doing.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @auxmux said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Haven’t bought the IAP yet, probably gonna do that today. But have just finished messing around with the sequencer module and a couple other new features and man this update is great. Drambo is probably worth the price of an iPad on its own at this point. But being able to host AUs within such an already crazy app and making it an AU in itself os just the icing on the cake.

    Yeah, hardware sequencers can't beat its flexibility. Even buying an iPad + Drambo and a few accessories is still cheaper in most cases.

    Agreed. I’d I didn’t have an iPad and had to choose between an Elektron Octatrack or an iPad + Drambo I really think I’d choose the iPad and Drambo. It can do so much more. Especially when you factor in all the free AUs you can get to use with it. A $300 iPad + $40-50 for full Drambo unlock, and then some free AUs and you’d never need anything else.

    It’s slowly become my favorite app and a necessity at this point 😂

    That reminds me, I still need to make my 'Drambo is an Octatrack on steroids' video!

  • @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @auxmux said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Haven’t bought the IAP yet, probably gonna do that today. But have just finished messing around with the sequencer module and a couple other new features and man this update is great. Drambo is probably worth the price of an iPad on its own at this point. But being able to host AUs within such an already crazy app and making it an AU in itself os just the icing on the cake.

    Yeah, hardware sequencers can't beat its flexibility. Even buying an iPad + Drambo and a few accessories is still cheaper in most cases.

    Agreed. I’d I didn’t have an iPad and had to choose between an Elektron Octatrack or an iPad + Drambo I really think I’d choose the iPad and Drambo. It can do so much more. Especially when you factor in all the free AUs you can get to use with it. A $300 iPad + $40-50 for full Drambo unlock, and then some free AUs and you’d never need anything else.

    It’s slowly become my favorite app and a necessity at this point 😂

    That reminds me, I still need to make my 'Drambo is an Octatrack on steroids' video!

    I'd be interested in seeing this video as I still haven't played around with an Octatrack. 😏

  • @Gravitas said:

    Aside note, I not only teach dRambo I also teach composition,

    Do you have a website by the by?

  • @Michael_R_Grant said:

    That reminds me, I still need to make my 'Drambo is an Octatrack on steroids' video!

    YES

  • @AtticusL said:

    @Gravitas said:

    Aside note, I not only teach dRambo I also teach composition,

    Do you have a website by the by?

    Yes I do however I haven’t updated it in years.
    Something for me to do this coming Winter.

    My real name is Ishmael Pamphille and you should be able to find it on
    IMDB.com for two movies “The Wild Thornberrys” 2002 and “Duma” 2005.
    The former was Oscar nominated and the latter won
    the Genesis Humanitarian Award for family entertainment.

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