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Drambo 2.25!

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  • @Gravitas said:

    @AtticusL said:

    @Gravitas said:

    Aside note, I not only teach dRambo I also teach composition,

    Do you have a website by the by?

    Yes I do however I haven’t updated it in years.
    Something for me to do this coming Winter.

    My real name is Ishmael Pamphille and you should be able to find it on
    IMDB.com for two movies “The Wild Thornberrys” 2002 and “Duma” 2005.
    The former was Oscar nominated and the latter won
    the Genesis Humanitarian Award for family entertainment.

    Very impressive! I was asking about the lessons but I’ve just found the thread. 😂

    Cheers!

  • @AtticusL said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @AtticusL said:

    @Gravitas said:

    Aside note, I not only teach dRambo I also teach composition,

    Do you have a website by the by?

    Yes I do however I haven’t updated it in years.
    Something for me to do this coming Winter.

    My real name is Ishmael Pamphille and you should be able to find it on
    IMDB.com for two movies “The Wild Thornberrys” 2002 and “Duma” 2005.
    The former was Oscar nominated and the latter won
    the Genesis Humanitarian Award for family entertainment.

    Very impressive! I was asking about the lessons but I’ve just found the thread. 😂

    Cheers!

    It’s ancient history now. 😏
    No worries.

  • Is there a way to visualize the lfos and modulations?

  • @cokomairena said:
    Is there a way to visualize the lfos and modulations?

    Yes, you can either use the Oscilloscope or long press on an input
    and the inbuilt oscilloscopes/spectrum analyzer should appear.

  • Use the Morph module. You get a moving colored dot on the target knob(s).

    Of course, the lfo signal itself can be visualized by connecting an oscilloscope. Or by long-pressing on the signal connector.

  • @bleep ooh the morph module works great, it should be always like this.

    @Gravitas thanks!

  • I agree! I prefer to use the Morph module over the triangle connection thing, for better visualization and more intuitive setting of the range.
    In the latest update, you can now double-tap the Morph amount knob and unassign all of its targets.

    In some future update, I’m hoping we get a Morphs module with multiple Morph, similar to the Knob/Knobs modules. It takes a lot of horizontal scrolling if you have many currently.

  • edited September 2023

    @bleep said:

    In some future update, I’m hoping we get a Morphs module with multiple Morph, similar to the Knob/Knobs modules. It takes a lot of horizontal scrolling if you have many currently.

    +1 nice idea.
    @giku_beepstreet ?

  • The other thing to know about Morph is that if you put them inside a Layer, they can’t have targets outside the layer, unfortunately. That’s why I need to put them as part of the “outer” rack in the screenshot below, and they quickly eat up horizontal space.

    I guess the ideal situation here would be if each Morph could be inside its Envelope layer (and still target knobs outside), or if there was such a multiple Morphs module.

  • @bleep said:
    I agree! I prefer to use the Morph module over the triangle connection thing, for better visualization and more intuitive setting of the range.
    In the latest update, you can now double-tap the Morph amount knob and unassign all of its targets.

    In some future update, I’m hoping we get a Morphs module with multiple Morph, similar to the Knob/Knobs modules. It takes a lot of horizontal scrolling if you have many currently.

    Requested long ago already but the more people want it, the more they'll push the feature's priority in the endless list of existing feature requests 😉

  • @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @wim said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @dendy said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @rvr said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @Robin2 said:
    Note names aren’t displayed on the active sequencer steps if there’s more than one bar present? This didn’t used to be the case did it? Expected? Bug? @giku_beepstreet?

    That only happens if your iDevice screen is not wide enough. Note names are not shown if too much of the text would be invisible.
    Tap and/or drag on the navigation bar (lower center in your screenshot) to select only one bar.

    But were showed in pre-update build. Its intended?

    Yes, exactly my point - they were shown pre update on the same iDevice screen hence why I flagged it as a possible bug @rs2000. @giku_beepstreet? iPad 9th Generation.

    They are never shown when step size is such small … for example on iPhone in portrait mote tey are not there but as soon as i rotate to landscape mode they are shown.. that’s ok imho ..

    Yes, I get the point, I’m just saying that they used to be displayed pre update (in the same scenario on the same device) and therefore I’m asking if this is a deliberate, intended change or a bug? If it’s a deliberate change, I don’t think it’s a useful one.

    I’m not imagining things am I - they did used to be displayed pre update? I never noticed them not being displayed when I had just two bars worth of sequencer displayed on my iPad before; I’m sure I would have noticed because I definitely felt there was something odd about them not being displayed after the update!? @giku_beepstreet, maybe you could chime in and clarify things?

    You're not crazy. It has changed some. I was able to try on my phone pre and post update. Before the update, the label would show even if the text was wider than the step - only part of it would be visible, with the sides cut off. After the update they show only as long as the text fits on the step. On my iPhone I could display two bars with the labels, but with four they'd go.

    I see it as a good change but can see why others might not.

    I have to say, I preferred being able to see note names for longer.

    Thanks to your advice to post the feedback on the Beepstreet Forum @espiegel123, giku responded almost immediately and said that the ‘hide note names’ feature would be made optional from the Settings. Thanks again for the advice @espiegel123 and to everyone else who commented here, appreciate it. Cheers.

  • edited September 2023

    @Gravitas said:

    @bleep said:

    In some future update, I’m hoping we get a Morphs module with multiple Morph, similar to the Knob/Knobs modules. It takes a lot of horizontal scrolling if you have many currently.

    +1 nice idea.
    @giku_beepstreet ?

    +1
    I would also welcome some kind of floating label that appeared above the destination knob while being assigned, displaying the precise value range

  • @catherder said:
    @giku_beepstreet That MIDI sequencer module is great. I would love to have some event-driven mode. How about allowing one to set a note like in the "Note selected" mode. If exactly this note arrives, the sequencer will send the last played note again. If the note is higher by X semitones, then the sequencer will advance X steps (and play that step). If the note is X semitones lower, then it will go backwards X steps.

    what is the midi sequencer module? what does it do?

  • @bleep said:
    The other thing to know about Morph is that if you put them inside a Layer, they can’t have targets outside the layer, unfortunately. That’s why I need to put them as part of the “outer” rack in the screenshot below, and they quickly eat up horizontal space.

    I guess the ideal situation here would be if each Morph could be inside its Envelope layer (and still target knobs outside), or if there was such a multiple Morphs module.

    You are doing this only to have a visualization of the modulation or is there other advantages?

  • @cokomairena said:

    @bleep said:
    The other thing to know about Morph is that if you put them inside a Layer, they can’t have targets outside the layer, unfortunately. That’s why I need to put them as part of the “outer” rack in the screenshot below, and they quickly eat up horizontal space.

    I guess the ideal situation here would be if each Morph could be inside its Envelope layer (and still target knobs outside), or if there was such a multiple Morphs module.

    You are doing this only to have a visualization of the modulation or is there other advantages?

    Probably using it as a macro

  • @cokomairena note that a simple signal output visualization wouldn't work for polyphonic signals (I know because at some point I asked for the same :P)

  • @Grandbear said:
    @cokomairena note that a simple signal output visualization wouldn't work for polyphonic signals (I know because at some point I asked for the same :P)

    Most plyphonic synths has a visualization for mod. They just show you the last one.

  • edited September 2023

    @cokomairena said:

    @bleep said:
    The other thing to know about Morph is that if you put them inside a Layer, they can’t have targets outside the layer, unfortunately. That’s why I need to put them as part of the “outer” rack in the screenshot below, and they quickly eat up horizontal space.

    I guess the ideal situation here would be if each Morph could be inside its Envelope layer (and still target knobs outside), or if there was such a multiple Morphs module.

    You are doing this only to have a visualization of the modulation or is there other advantages?

    The 12 envelopes? They are not for a synth voice, but for controlling various parts of loops; fades, pan, filter, sends, etc. On-the-fly automation triggered by midi, or sequenced automation (where benefits are easy to move it around, probability and cycle conditions, etc.)

  • @rs2000 yep, sketching helps and a whiteboard is a must! Only way I cobbled some Max things together. Wouldn't change much about Drambo, I think I just really need to map it to a controller so there's more feel to it. Like how Thumbjam stil gets use like an instrument you can play with eyes closed.

  • @Model10000 said:
    @rs2000 yep, sketching helps and a whiteboard is a must! Only way I cobbled some Max things together. Wouldn't change much about Drambo, I think I just really need to map it to a controller so there's more feel to it. Like how Thumbjam stil gets use like an instrument you can play with eyes closed.

    Which controllers do you own?

  • edited September 2023

    +1. I'm happy that Live supports AUv3.
    So much more fun than Max ☺️

  • @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @auxmux said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Haven’t bought the IAP yet, probably gonna do that today. But have just finished messing around with the sequencer module and a couple other new features and man this update is great. Drambo is probably worth the price of an iPad on its own at this point. But being able to host AUs within such an already crazy app and making it an AU in itself os just the icing on the cake.

    Yeah, hardware sequencers can't beat its flexibility. Even buying an iPad + Drambo and a few accessories is still cheaper in most cases.

    Agreed. I’d I didn’t have an iPad and had to choose between an Elektron Octatrack or an iPad + Drambo I really think I’d choose the iPad and Drambo. It can do so much more. Especially when you factor in all the free AUs you can get to use with it. A $300 iPad + $40-50 for full Drambo unlock, and then some free AUs and you’d never need anything else.

    It’s slowly become my favorite app and a necessity at this point 😂

    That reminds me, I still need to make my 'Drambo is an Octatrack on steroids' video!

    Nice! 🙌🏻 I’ve only owned the mid tier Elektron stuff (Digitakt, Digitone) but would definitely check out a video about it because I’ve always been interested in the Octatrack. The iPad has always kept me from taking the plunge though.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @auxmux said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Haven’t bought the IAP yet, probably gonna do that today. But have just finished messing around with the sequencer module and a couple other new features and man this update is great. Drambo is probably worth the price of an iPad on its own at this point. But being able to host AUs within such an already crazy app and making it an AU in itself os just the icing on the cake.

    Yeah, hardware sequencers can't beat its flexibility. Even buying an iPad + Drambo and a few accessories is still cheaper in most cases.

    Agreed. I’d I didn’t have an iPad and had to choose between an Elektron Octatrack or an iPad + Drambo I really think I’d choose the iPad and Drambo. It can do so much more. Especially when you factor in all the free AUs you can get to use with it. A $300 iPad + $40-50 for full Drambo unlock, and then some free AUs and you’d never need anything else.

    It’s slowly become my favorite app and a necessity at this point 😂

    That reminds me, I still need to make my 'Drambo is an Octatrack on steroids' video!

    Nice! 🙌🏻 I’ve only owned the mid tier Elektron stuff (Digitakt, Digitone) but would definitely check out a video about it because I’ve always been interested in the Octatrack. The iPad has always kept me from taking the plunge though.

    One thing that could be nice to have from the Octatrack workflow, though I have no idea how it could work from a UI point of view, is the concept of recording buffer that can be referenced from multiple places, so you could have a Flexi sampler on one track recording from its input and other Flexis (or, now, Wave Scanners) that just play back whatever is present in the first Flexi.

    Having predefined Flexi length with continuous recording and overdub would make such an arrangement even better for live performance.

  • @Grandbear said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @auxmux said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Haven’t bought the IAP yet, probably gonna do that today. But have just finished messing around with the sequencer module and a couple other new features and man this update is great. Drambo is probably worth the price of an iPad on its own at this point. But being able to host AUs within such an already crazy app and making it an AU in itself os just the icing on the cake.

    Yeah, hardware sequencers can't beat its flexibility. Even buying an iPad + Drambo and a few accessories is still cheaper in most cases.

    Agreed. I’d I didn’t have an iPad and had to choose between an Elektron Octatrack or an iPad + Drambo I really think I’d choose the iPad and Drambo. It can do so much more. Especially when you factor in all the free AUs you can get to use with it. A $300 iPad + $40-50 for full Drambo unlock, and then some free AUs and you’d never need anything else.

    It’s slowly become my favorite app and a necessity at this point 😂

    That reminds me, I still need to make my 'Drambo is an Octatrack on steroids' video!

    Nice! 🙌🏻 I’ve only owned the mid tier Elektron stuff (Digitakt, Digitone) but would definitely check out a video about it because I’ve always been interested in the Octatrack. The iPad has always kept me from taking the plunge though.

    One thing that could be nice to have from the Octatrack workflow, though I have no idea how it could work from a UI point of view, is the concept of recording buffer that can be referenced from multiple places, so you could have a Flexi sampler on one track recording from its input and other Flexis (or, now, Wave Scanners) that just play back whatever is present in the first Flexi.

    Having predefined Flexi length with continuous recording and overdub would make such an arrangement even better for live performance.

    That would be fantastic.

    Another thing I’d like to see is the entire synth parameter locking option Elektron gear has. So you can completely change the sound with one single knob and then take it back off. It’s a great performance trick.

    • Also try the Time input mode. Put a knob in front of it, set its range to Min=0 and Max=4 and connect the Sequencer's time input to the knob's output. You can now scrub on your sequence in both directions (Drambo will try its best to fix MIDI Note On and Note Off messages for you) 😊

    I had to try this with a melody exported from Piano Motifs. Getting some nice motif variations by using slightly non-linear time signals!

    Manual scrubbing with the knob worked. Env into Morph module assigned to the knob’s full range worked. Sending env directly to the knob using the triangle automation didn’t work, however. Why is that?

    Btw, I couldn’t get to import the PM file properly. What worked was to first import it into LK, do an export there, and import that into the Sequencer module. Could be a midi file type 1/2 issue?

  • @bleep "Could be a midi file type 1/2 issue?"

    A user over in the dRambo FB group had a
    similar issue when importing some of their midi files.

    @giku_beepstreet

  • edited September 2023

    Answering myself: env directly into knob also works, but the value must be properly scaled to match the knob range. Makes perfect sense.

  • edited September 2023

    @HotStrange said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @auxmux said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Haven’t bought the IAP yet, probably gonna do that today. But have just finished messing around with the sequencer module and a couple other new features and man this update is great. Drambo is probably worth the price of an iPad on its own at this point. But being able to host AUs within such an already crazy app and making it an AU in itself os just the icing on the cake.

    Yeah, hardware sequencers can't beat its flexibility. Even buying an iPad + Drambo and a few accessories is still cheaper in most cases.

    Agreed. I’d I didn’t have an iPad and had to choose between an Elektron Octatrack or an iPad + Drambo I really think I’d choose the iPad and Drambo. It can do so much more. Especially when you factor in all the free AUs you can get to use with it. A $300 iPad + $40-50 for full Drambo unlock, and then some free AUs and you’d never need anything else.

    It’s slowly become my favorite app and a necessity at this point 😂

    That reminds me, I still need to make my 'Drambo is an Octatrack on steroids' video!

    Nice! 🙌🏻 I’ve only owned the mid tier Elektron stuff (Digitakt, Digitone) but would definitely check out a video about it because I’ve always been interested in the Octatrack. The iPad has always kept me from taking the plunge though.

    One thing that could be nice to have from the Octatrack workflow, though I have no idea how it could work from a UI point of view, is the concept of recording buffer that can be referenced from multiple places, so you could have a Flexi sampler on one track recording from its input and other Flexis (or, now, Wave Scanners) that just play back whatever is present in the first Flexi.

    Having predefined Flexi length with continuous recording and overdub would make such an arrangement even better for live performance.

    That would be fantastic.

    Another thing I’d like to see is the entire synth parameter locking option Elektron gear has. So you can completely change the sound with one single knob and then take it back off. It’s a great performance trick.

    I could be wrong and have no idea of Elektrons, but what you describe sounds to me like you can do that with the morph module, mapping it to all sorts of parameters.

    Here's s video about it (haven't rewatched it now, but seem to remember, he does something like that):

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