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StringLab - Physical Modelling Synthesizer by 4Pockets - Available Now

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  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Cambler said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Cambler said:
    I'm wondering where Logic's Sculpture sits against Stringlab, and Laplace?

    Sculpture is the most sophisticated,massive amount of control, I think, but the iPad version has a very uninspiring UI presently.

    Thanks G. Agreed about the iPad UI. Luckily I have little idea as to what I'm doing in Sculpture when editing so the UI could be a pile of baked beans and make little difference to my output :) Having said that, being lost in the machine is a purposeful approach of mine!

    Just twist things at random and hope for the best haha. Would be great if it had a randomiser, then people could take their chances with that rather than having to face that massive wall of scrolling knobs.

  • CamblerCambler

    @Gavinski said:

    @Cambler said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Cambler said:
    I'm wondering where Logic's Sculpture sits against Stringlab, and Laplace?

    Sculpture is the most sophisticated,massive amount of control, I think, but the iPad version has a very uninspiring UI presently.

    Thanks G. Agreed about the iPad UI. Luckily I have little idea as to what I'm doing in Sculpture when editing so the UI could be a pile of baked beans and make little difference to my output :) Having said that, being lost in the machine is a purposeful approach of mine!

    Just twist things at random and hope for the best haha. Would be great if it had a randomiser, then people could take their chances with that rather than having to face that massive wall of scrolling knobs.

    Too true - a randomiser is a must for every synth I reckon. Also sometimes I twist things and hope for the worst :)

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Gavinski said:

    @Cambler said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Cambler said:
    I'm wondering where Logic's Sculpture sits against Stringlab, and Laplace?

    Sculpture is the most sophisticated,massive amount of control, I think, but the iPad version has a very uninspiring UI presently.

    Thanks G. Agreed about the iPad UI. Luckily I have little idea as to what I'm doing in Sculpture when editing so the UI could be a pile of baked beans and make little difference to my output :) Having said that, being lost in the machine is a purposeful approach of mine!

    Just twist things at random and hope for the best haha. Would be great if it had a randomiser, then people could take their chances with that rather than having to face that massive wall of scrolling knobs.

    Yeah I can’t stand the UI for most things in Logic but Sculpture definitely got affected the worst. Really hope they’ll take the time to update these UIs eventually.

  • vdk_johnvdk_john
    edited December 2023

    @vdk_john said:
    Grabbed this one on sale today! However, spent more than half an hour trying to get the “palm mute” sound, and failed 😣 if I try “bow” it works… is it just me or a bug?

    Thanks

    So I played with it a bit more, but still feels off to me? Could someone owning the app please confirm?

    Basically with initial patch and default values for decay and release, setting mod wheel to palm mutes does it affect it just slightly at 100%

    If I reduce decay and release from 50% to 30% there is basically no difference.

    I'd expect it to work more like the "buff stop" pedal / palm mute articulation in the pianoteq guitar (also reading the description from the user manual)

    Thanks

  • DarkstringDarkstring

    Just picked it up, thinking it would have a good harp sound. Nope, not that I can find.
    Has anyone had any success creating the warm sound of a large harp?

  • PxlhgPxlhg

    @Darkstring said:
    Just picked it up, thinking it would have a good harp sound. Nope, not that I can find.
    Has anyone had any success creating the warm sound of a large harp?

    These (this and Atom) are very experimental, I have Objekt on desktop and it is far superior these two (even combined) and even it can make a perfect harp. If the devs for each product respectively had found the recipe for modelling real instruments, I think, they not only would have done so, they would have made a fuzz about it too. Right now, Pianoteq have no competition to mention by name, as far as I know (please correct me if you know of any...).

  • DarkstringDarkstring

    @Pxlhg said:

    @Darkstring said:
    Just picked it up, thinking it would have a good harp sound. Nope, not that I can find.
    Has anyone had any success creating the warm sound of a large harp?

    These (this and Atom) are very experimental, I have Objekt on desktop and it is far superior these two (even combined) and even it can make a perfect harp. If the devs for each product respectively had found the recipe for modelling real instruments, I think, they not only would have done so, they would have made a fuzz about it too. Right now, Pianoteq have no competition to mention by name, as far as I know (please correct me if you know of any...).

    Nice. I see it is from Reason. Can it be bought individually and used as a plugin in another DAW? I don’t want to buy into the whole Reason ecosystem as a whole.

  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited November 2024

    @Darkstring said:
    Just picked it up, thinking it would have a good harp sound. Nope, not that I can find.
    Has anyone had any success creating the warm sound of a large harp?

    Edit - deleted, wrong thread

  • Robin2Robin2
    edited November 2024

    @Gavinski said:

    @Darkstring said:
    Just picked it up, thinking it would have a good harp sound. Nope, not that I can find.
    Has anyone had any success creating the warm sound of a large harp?

    This is quite limited in the types of sounds it is capable of, as the basic model is strings played with a bow. It's therefore not ideal for plucked sounds.

    Are you talking about StringLab or Atoms? I find StringLab is particularly good for plucked sounds but cannot do convincing bowed sounds?

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Robin2 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Darkstring said:
    Just picked it up, thinking it would have a good harp sound. Nope, not that I can find.
    Has anyone had any success creating the warm sound of a large harp?

    This is quite limited in the types of sounds it is capable of, as the basic model is strings played with a bow. It's therefore not ideal for plucked sounds.

    Are you talking about StringLab or Atoms? I find StringLab is particularly good for plucked sounds but cannot do convincing bowed sounds?

    Damn, well spotted, I thought I was in the Atoms thread lol, I'll edit that post

  • Robin2Robin2

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Darkstring said:
    Just picked it up, thinking it would have a good harp sound. Nope, not that I can find.
    Has anyone had any success creating the warm sound of a large harp?

    This is quite limited in the types of sounds it is capable of, as the basic model is strings played with a bow. It's therefore not ideal for plucked sounds.

    Are you talking about StringLab or Atoms? I find StringLab is particularly good for plucked sounds but cannot do convincing bowed sounds?

    Damn, well spotted, I thought I was in the Atoms thread lol, I'll edit that post

    Cool. Related to that though, i assume Atoms (which I’m currently considering buying) is good at bowed sounds considering the underlying model?

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Robin2 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Darkstring said:
    Just picked it up, thinking it would have a good harp sound. Nope, not that I can find.
    Has anyone had any success creating the warm sound of a large harp?

    This is quite limited in the types of sounds it is capable of, as the basic model is strings played with a bow. It's therefore not ideal for plucked sounds.

    Are you talking about StringLab or Atoms? I find StringLab is particularly good for plucked sounds but cannot do convincing bowed sounds?

    Damn, well spotted, I thought I was in the Atoms thread lol, I'll edit that post

    Cool. Related to that though, i assume Atoms (which I’m currently considering buying) is good at bowed sounds considering the underlying model?

    Yes, but it is somewhat hobbled by extremely weak mpe implementation and a max pitch bend range of only 1 semitone 🤷

  • PxlhgPxlhg

    @Darkstring said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @Darkstring said:
    Just picked it up, thinking it would have a good harp sound. Nope, not that I can find.
    Has anyone had any success creating the warm sound of a large harp?

    These (this and Atom) are very experimental, I have Objekt on desktop and it is far superior these two (even combined) and even it can make a perfect harp. If the devs for each product respectively had found the recipe for modelling real instruments, I think, they not only would have done so, they would have made a fuzz about it too. Right now, Pianoteq have no competition to mention by name, as far as I know (please correct me if you know of any...).

    Nice. I see it is from Reason. Can it be bought individually and used as a plugin in another DAW? I don’t want to buy into the whole Reason ecosystem as a whole.

    Objekt can not be bought and used individually, it's not an VST but their own extension. But, in that Reason Rack thing you use in other DAWs (I've never tried as I only have R) can of course even play Objekt but what plan it's included in you have to figure out for yourself, I think you might need to buy it as an extra, not sure though.
    I'm thinking strongly about leaving Reason after been around pretty much from the start, I'm only subscribing when a good enough discount offer is on and that means periods of off, better have Logic on both iOS and Desktop I'm thinking.

    Sorry for the slight derail...

  • GeoTonyGeoTony

    Beathawk has some nice harps @Darkstring in the Baroque pack.

  • Robin2Robin2

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Robin2 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Darkstring said:
    Just picked it up, thinking it would have a good harp sound. Nope, not that I can find.
    Has anyone had any success creating the warm sound of a large harp?

    This is quite limited in the types of sounds it is capable of, as the basic model is strings played with a bow. It's therefore not ideal for plucked sounds.

    Are you talking about StringLab or Atoms? I find StringLab is particularly good for plucked sounds but cannot do convincing bowed sounds?

    Damn, well spotted, I thought I was in the Atoms thread lol, I'll edit that post

    Cool. Related to that though, i assume Atoms (which I’m currently considering buying) is good at bowed sounds considering the underlying model?

    Yes, but it is somewhat hobbled by extremely weak mpe implementation and a max pitch bend range of only 1 semitone 🤷

    Good to know, thanks @Gavinski.

  • DarkstringDarkstring

    Thanks @GeoTony I will check it out. I think some of the sample based Korg apps have a few decent harps too.
    There is also a really great and free soundfont that I forget the name of, which beats any physical modeling.
    I was interested in synthesizing it from scratch, since it opens other possibilities, but I cannot bring myself to get into Reason just for Objekt. There are some hybrid presets for stuff like Phase Plant and Serum based on simple samples or wavetables, but while they’re good, they don’t nail the full range.

    So for now, I’ll try to see if I can get lucky in Stringlab :-)

  • GoldiblockzGoldiblockz

    @Darkstring said:
    Thanks @GeoTony I will check it out. I think some of the sample based Korg apps have a few decent harps too.
    There is also a really great and free soundfont that I forget the name of, which beats any physical modeling.
    I was interested in synthesizing it from scratch, since it opens other possibilities, but I cannot bring myself to get into Reason just for Objekt. There are some hybrid presets for stuff like Phase Plant and Serum based on simple samples or wavetables, but while they’re good, they don’t nail the full range.

    So for now, I’ll try to see if I can get lucky in Stringlab :-)

    Not quite the same, but the harps in Xinematix, I find quite nice.

  • TentypeTentype

    @Darkstring said:
    Thanks @GeoTony I will check it out. I think some of the sample based Korg apps have a few decent harps too.
    There is also a really great and free soundfont that I forget the name of, which beats any physical modeling.
    I was interested in synthesizing it from scratch, since it opens other possibilities, but I cannot bring myself to get into Reason just for Objekt. There are some hybrid presets for stuff like Phase Plant and Serum based on simple samples or wavetables, but while they’re good, they don’t nail the full range.

    So for now, I’ll try to see if I can get lucky in Stringlab :-)

    If you're looking at desktop too I bet you could get a killer harp going in Plasmonic.

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