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Entonal Studio (iPad) out now! (microtonal playground)

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  • Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

  • edited January 2024

    @pruddo said:
    Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

    Yes this seems to be happening for me also. I'll fix this ASAP. Also getting empty files when I try and export Scala files. This might be a permissions / capabilities issue.

  • @elemental said:

    @Skyblazer said:
    This looks great! I'll have to buy it for both platforms soon.

    One of my first ever programming projects was a Mozaic script for playing microtonal scales. This looks much more convenient. I have some ideas for you, if you're interested. But I'll download the trial and play with it first.

    Please do!
    I’m currently working on a major update so a good time for new ideas…

    Some type of chord mode?

  • @elemental is there any documentation/manual available for this? specifically the scale editor functionality

  • @elemental said:

    @pruddo said:
    Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

    Yes this seems to be happening for me also. I'll fix this ASAP. Also getting empty files when I try and export Scala files. This might be a permissions / capabilities issue.

    Has there been any update on when we’ll be getting this fix? The import and export of scala files still doesn’t work.

    Does anyone have an email address for the dev? I can’t seem to find one on their website.

  • @FordTimeLord said:

    @elemental said:

    @pruddo said:
    Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

    Yes this seems to be happening for me also. I'll fix this ASAP. Also getting empty files when I try and export Scala files. This might be a permissions / capabilities issue.

    Has there been any update on when we’ll be getting this fix? The import and export of scala files still doesn’t work.

    Does anyone have an email address for the dev? I can’t seem to find one on their website.

    It's right there on the bottom of the main page of their site

  • @Gavinski said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @elemental said:

    @pruddo said:
    Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

    Yes this seems to be happening for me also. I'll fix this ASAP. Also getting empty files when I try and export Scala files. This might be a permissions / capabilities issue.

    Has there been any update on when we’ll be getting this fix? The import and export of scala files still doesn’t work.

    Does anyone have an email address for the dev? I can’t seem to find one on their website.

    It's right there on the bottom of the main page of their site

    Ah, thank you! I was looking at the Entonal studio site, didn’t realise they had a developer site as well. Cheers mate, I’ve dropped them a line 👍

  • @FordTimeLord said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @elemental said:

    @pruddo said:
    Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

    Yes this seems to be happening for me also. I'll fix this ASAP. Also getting empty files when I try and export Scala files. This might be a permissions / capabilities issue.

    Has there been any update on when we’ll be getting this fix? The import and export of scala files still doesn’t work.

    Does anyone have an email address for the dev? I can’t seem to find one on their website.

    It's right there on the bottom of the main page of their site

    Ah, thank you! I was looking at the Entonal studio site, didn’t realise they had a developer site as well. Cheers mate, I’ve dropped them a line 👍

    No worries! Ah, maybe drop them another email asking them to add it to the Entonal page haha. Yeah, can often be tricky getting in touch with devs.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @elemental said:

    @pruddo said:
    Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

    Yes this seems to be happening for me also. I'll fix this ASAP. Also getting empty files when I try and export Scala files. This might be a permissions / capabilities issue.

    Has there been any update on when we’ll be getting this fix? The import and export of scala files still doesn’t work.

    Does anyone have an email address for the dev? I can’t seem to find one on their website.

    It's right there on the bottom of the main page of their site

    Ah, thank you! I was looking at the Entonal studio site, didn’t realise they had a developer site as well. Cheers mate, I’ve dropped them a line 👍

    No worries! Ah, maybe drop them another email asking them to add it to the Entonal page haha. Yeah, can often be tricky getting in touch with devs.

    Will do 🙂

  • @FordTimeLord said:

    @elemental said:

    @pruddo said:
    Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

    Yes this seems to be happening for me also. I'll fix this ASAP. Also getting empty files when I try and export Scala files. This might be a permissions / capabilities issue.

    Has there been any update on when we’ll be getting this fix? The import and export of scala files still doesn’t work.

    Does anyone have an email address for the dev? I can’t seem to find one on their website.

    Hi guys

    Sorry for the silence here. I need to work out how to get notified of messages from here...

    I've finally fixed the Scala / import export bug. I'll be pushing it in the next day or two.

  • @elemental said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @elemental said:

    @pruddo said:
    Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

    Yes this seems to be happening for me also. I'll fix this ASAP. Also getting empty files when I try and export Scala files. This might be a permissions / capabilities issue.

    Has there been any update on when we’ll be getting this fix? The import and export of scala files still doesn’t work.

    Does anyone have an email address for the dev? I can’t seem to find one on their website.

    Hi guys

    Sorry for the silence here. I need to work out how to get notified of messages from here...

    I've finally fixed the Scala / import export bug. I'll be pushing it in the next day or two.

    Hi Adam! Yeah those preferences are very hard to find, you should find them by clicking this:

    https://forum.audiob.us/profile/preferences

  • @Gavinski said:

    @elemental said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @elemental said:

    @pruddo said:
    Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

    Yes this seems to be happening for me also. I'll fix this ASAP. Also getting empty files when I try and export Scala files. This might be a permissions / capabilities issue.

    Has there been any update on when we’ll be getting this fix? The import and export of scala files still doesn’t work.

    Does anyone have an email address for the dev? I can’t seem to find one on their website.

    Hi guys

    Sorry for the silence here. I need to work out how to get notified of messages from here...

    I've finally fixed the Scala / import export bug. I'll be pushing it in the next day or two.

    Hi Adam! Yeah those preferences are very hard to find, you should find them by clicking this:

    https://forum.audiob.us/profile/preferences

    Thanks Gav. Updated. Now I can be more responsive in future!

  • @elemental said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @elemental said:

    @pruddo said:
    Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

    Yes this seems to be happening for me also. I'll fix this ASAP. Also getting empty files when I try and export Scala files. This might be a permissions / capabilities issue.

    Has there been any update on when we’ll be getting this fix? The import and export of scala files still doesn’t work.

    Does anyone have an email address for the dev? I can’t seem to find one on their website.

    Hi guys

    Sorry for the silence here. I need to work out how to get notified of messages from here...

    I've finally fixed the Scala / import export bug. I'll be pushing it in the next day or two.

    Ah that’s brilliant, thank you!

  • @OscarSouth said:
    @elemental is there any documentation/manual available for this? specifically the scale editor functionality

    There should be a link to the manual in the main app menu. In case you need it here: https://entonal.studio/pdf/manual

  • @FordTimeLord said:

    @elemental said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @elemental said:

    @pruddo said:
    Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

    Yes this seems to be happening for me also. I'll fix this ASAP. Also getting empty files when I try and export Scala files. This might be a permissions / capabilities issue.

    Has there been any update on when we’ll be getting this fix? The import and export of scala files still doesn’t work.

    Does anyone have an email address for the dev? I can’t seem to find one on their website.

    Hi guys

    Sorry for the silence here. I need to work out how to get notified of messages from here...

    I've finally fixed the Scala / import export bug. I'll be pushing it in the next day or two.

    Ah that’s brilliant, thank you!

    The update has been published

  • @elemental said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @elemental said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @elemental said:

    @pruddo said:
    Hmmm. Still seem unable to load .scl files. Au freezes when importing scale and in standalone nothing happens when trying to do so. Can anyone confirm?

    Yes this seems to be happening for me also. I'll fix this ASAP. Also getting empty files when I try and export Scala files. This might be a permissions / capabilities issue.

    Has there been any update on when we’ll be getting this fix? The import and export of scala files still doesn’t work.

    Does anyone have an email address for the dev? I can’t seem to find one on their website.

    Hi guys

    Sorry for the silence here. I need to work out how to get notified of messages from here...

    I've finally fixed the Scala / import export bug. I'll be pushing it in the next day or two.

    Ah that’s brilliant, thank you!

    The update has been published

    Nice one! That’s great news, thank you!

  • @elemental said:
    The update has been published

    Dear @elemental

    unfortunately I still have problems that make the app unusable for me:

    1) I have an iPad Pro Gen1 and on my screen the standalone app has the wrong screen resolution. Only half of the app window is visible and the app therefore unusable.

    2) as AUv3 I can use the app but reloading a saved project in Drambo or AUM results in the AUv3 plugin of Entonal Studio mostly crashing a few seconds after loading the project. In Drambo in 100% of the cases. In AUM curiously sometimes a few minutes later or not in some sessions.

    3) As AUv3 some UI elements do not react on input. For example the MPE tuning range is fixed to 48. I can not change the value in the user interface. The +/- buttons do not react.

    I was quietly hoping other people have flagged these issues and the new update would fix this. But that was not the case. Maybe it is a rare problem only for the unusual pixel sizes of iPad Pro screens?

    I there an official place where to do bug reports?

  • @akeia said:

    @elemental said:
    The update has been published

    Dear @elemental

    unfortunately I still have problems that make the app unusable for me:

    1) I have an iPad Pro Gen1 and on my screen the standalone app has the wrong screen resolution. Only half of the app window is visible and the app therefore unusable.

    2) as AUv3 I can use the app but reloading a saved project in Drambo or AUM results in the AUv3 plugin of Entonal Studio mostly crashing a few seconds after loading the project. In Drambo in 100% of the cases. In AUM curiously sometimes a few minutes later or not in some sessions.

    3) As AUv3 some UI elements do not react on input. For example the MPE tuning range is fixed to 48. I can not change the value in the user interface. The +/- buttons do not react.

    I was quietly hoping other people have flagged these issues and the new update would fix this. But that was not the case. Maybe it is a rare problem only for the unusual pixel sizes of iPad Pro screens?

    I there an official place where to do bug reports?

    Thanks for the report. I am also testing on an old iPad Pro. Please email me [email protected] with bug reports.

    Assuming I am able to reproduce, I'll aim to address these issues with an update next week.

  • @elemental, I love the product, bought it on launch just wanted you to know you did an awesome thing.

  • @Drrabbitfoot said:
    @elemental, I love the product, bought it on launch just wanted you to know you did an awesome thing.

    Thank you!

  • @somblebeats said:
    @elemental Really enjoying the app so far, so easy to make any instrument microtonal!

    Unfortunately I’ve found that when I load the MIDI FX plugin onto multiple tracks in Logic Pro for iPad, I very quickly run into the error message “Audio Unit Extension quit”. Seems to happen quickly after some notes are being processed through the plugin (setting up a quick 4 bar loop, it won’t usually get through more than 1 or 2 loops before throwing up the error). To repro, just drop the plugin into 3 empty MIDI tracks without any other plugins loaded, record some notes into a loop, and let it play back.

    My main use case would be to use the plugin on multiple tracks so I can have them all working in the same scale. I hope this can be fixed as I’m very happy with the results I’m getting while it works.

    (On iPad Pro 2021 M1, iPadOS 17.0.2)

    I am experiencing the same issue on the latest version of logic and the new M4 iPad Pro. A real shame because the plugin is otherwise ideal! I asked about it on the developers discord, hopefully it's something that can be fixed.

  • @micro64 said:

    @somblebeats said:
    @elemental Really enjoying the app so far, so easy to make any instrument microtonal!

    Unfortunately I’ve found that when I load the MIDI FX plugin onto multiple tracks in Logic Pro for iPad, I very quickly run into the error message “Audio Unit Extension quit”. Seems to happen quickly after some notes are being processed through the plugin (setting up a quick 4 bar loop, it won’t usually get through more than 1 or 2 loops before throwing up the error). To repro, just drop the plugin into 3 empty MIDI tracks without any other plugins loaded, record some notes into a loop, and let it play back.

    My main use case would be to use the plugin on multiple tracks so I can have them all working in the same scale. I hope this can be fixed as I’m very happy with the results I’m getting while it works.

    (On iPad Pro 2021 M1, iPadOS 17.0.2)

    I am experiencing the same issue on the latest version of logic and the new M4 iPad Pro. A real shame because the plugin is otherwise ideal! I asked about it on the developers discord, hopefully it's something that can be fixed.

    Thanks for reminding me about this issue.

    I'm looking into it this week.

  • @elemental said:

    Thanks for reminding me about this issue.

    I'm looking into it this week.

    Thank you! I would be incredibly happy if this was working properly in logic. It's really great to see a tool like this being developed, it opens up so many possibilities for microtonal composition and performance. Appreciate your work!

  • @elemental said:

    @micro64 said:

    @somblebeats said:
    @elemental Really enjoying the app so far, so easy to make any instrument microtonal!

    Unfortunately I’ve found that when I load the MIDI FX plugin onto multiple tracks in Logic Pro for iPad, I very quickly run into the error message “Audio Unit Extension quit”. Seems to happen quickly after some notes are being processed through the plugin (setting up a quick 4 bar loop, it won’t usually get through more than 1 or 2 loops before throwing up the error). To repro, just drop the plugin into 3 empty MIDI tracks without any other plugins loaded, record some notes into a loop, and let it play back.

    My main use case would be to use the plugin on multiple tracks so I can have them all working in the same scale. I hope this can be fixed as I’m very happy with the results I’m getting while it works.

    (On iPad Pro 2021 M1, iPadOS 17.0.2)

    I am experiencing the same issue on the latest version of logic and the new M4 iPad Pro. A real shame because the plugin is otherwise ideal! I asked about it on the developers discord, hopefully it's something that can be fixed.

    Thanks for reminding me about this issue.

    I'm looking into it this week.

    Looks like I need to upgrade to or hire/borrow a newer iPad, my iPad Pro is too old to run Logic Pro. I'll see if I can reproduce this running Entonal Studio as an AUv3 in Logic on desktop.

  • @elemental said:

    Looks like I need to upgrade to or hire/borrow a newer iPad, my iPad Pro is too old to run Logic Pro. I'll see if I can reproduce this running Entonal Studio as an AUv3 in Logic on desktop.

    Best of luck, if there is any way I can be of assistance with testing please let me know.

  • edited May 2024

    @elemental said:

    Looks like I need to upgrade to or hire/borrow a newer iPad, my iPad Pro is too old to run Logic Pro. I'll see if I can reproduce this running Entonal Studio as an AUv3 in Logic on desktop.

    I did not know of your discussion here on Logic issues but I did start a project and ran in to the same problems. I have crash logs saved if that'll help? Just let me know where to send them if so. (iPad M1, latest iOS)

  • Hi guys there's a new update available on TestFlight, please check it out, I'm hoping it fixes the issues in Logic. PM me if you want a link.

  • @elemental said:
    Hi guys there's a new update available on TestFlight, please check it out, I'm hoping it fixes the issues in Logic. PM me if you want a link.

    Hello.

    This is gone from app store

    Already purchased app also.

  • @sigma79 said:

    @elemental said:
    Hi guys there's a new update available on TestFlight, please check it out, I'm hoping it fixes the issues in Logic. PM me if you want a link.

    Hello.

    This is gone from app store

    Already purchased app also.

    It’s still in the App Store for me, UK

  • @FordTimeLord said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @elemental said:
    Hi guys there's a new update available on TestFlight, please check it out, I'm hoping it fixes the issues in Logic. PM me if you want a link.

    Hello.

    This is gone from app store

    Already purchased app also.

    It’s still in the App Store for me, UK

    Can you link please ?

    Thanks.

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