SALOME - Simple Audio Sampler with MPE - Available now!

McD

@wim said:

@McD said:

@wim said:
It take like a minute to load a plugin in a host like AUM. But to each their own.

To get something very close to standalone, use the “AUHost” app. It defaults to MIC input and once Salome is loaded in 1 of 4 optional AUv3 slots it can be opened to almost the entire iPad screen. Any presets saved will also be immediately exposed to other Salome instances.

Um ... what app are you referring to?
I have such an app built from the (lame) Apple Developer Xcode examples for Audio Units.
Is there some published version of this? Is it included in iOS 16+ or something?

AUHost: Sorry, it looks like the developer pulled it from the App Store. It was a really slimmed down AU Host.

Poppadocrock

It looks so great. Would love to see note names on keys, I know it’s a crutch but keys aren’t my main instrument. Maybe just the C at each octave. Congratulations on the release @brambos

Poppadocrock

2 in USA AppStore Music Category

Poppadocrock

# 5. In the entire us AppStore paid apps section!

tristan

@brambos honestly it’s the quick save for me. It’s just so nicely placed!
I’d like to see an option to view the current patch name somewhere on the plugin. But that’s just a “nice to have”.

Congrats on the release man!

cokomairena

Congrats!

HotStrange

@wim said:
It take like a minute to load a plugin in a host like AUM. But to each their own.

Yeah I get why one might want it to work standalone but saving it as a template in AUM, you could basically have it work the same way almost just as quickly. Just a couple of extra initial steps.

Pxlhg

@brambos Sometimes one might one to leave the recording on for a bit to catch a variation in a signal (I'm not gonna go into detail what I'm on about 😳) so, a crop function of the recorded audio would be nice, to slim it down from an unnecessary size.

Same might be true (need of cropping) for a bit of imported audio where you wanna try out the start/end positions respectively and trash the rest when happy.

Gavinski

@gdog said:
Hi, This is such a great app! 💗 I’m definitely going to be using Salome loads!

Some suggestions:-
. The keyboard is v.good, but I’d love it if the octave up/down & hold buttons were moved, so that the kb could be as wide as possible (there’s a lot of space taken by the Salome logo)
. A way to resize the keyboard to show more/less keys
. A way to show multiple rows of keys at different octave ranges, eg on my iPad I could easily have 6 rows, but on iPhone I could select less

I’d happily pay for a companion MPE keyboard app to use with Salome..🎹😻👍
Also, I just made a preset with Salome & can confirm that it is indeed a quick, seamless & fun process! I look forward to using it more 👍 Thanks for making such a wonderful app Bram! 💕

I really like the idea of having multiple rows of keys on the iPad. The keyboard is so good in latch mode in the sense that you can adjust the expression on u axis and you have a visible level for that expression that you can go back to and adjust. More keys would be very helpful. Of course, the workaround is simply to use several instances.

I can see myself using this A LOT, really a lot. Absolutely love the combo with things like NoInputMixer and Lines - basically anything experimental that doesn't have a keyboard. And things like the colour scheme. Just a beautiful, minimalist, modern UI 🔥

Gavinski

That's another demo using NoInputMixer, with a small giveaway to win any Bram apps. Winners will be picked later today. A sampler being mpe makes it hugely more appealing to me than any non mpe sampler, exactly for these kinds of experimental use cases, where you can turn a wild beast into a playable instrument that still retains its expressiveness and ability to surprise.

Danny_Mammy

@brambos said:

@Danny_Mammy said:

@SteveElbows said:

@brambos said:

@gdog said:
I’d happily pay for a companion MPE keyboard app to use with Salome..🎹😻👍

Interesting suggestion. You can use any MPE keyboard by the way. E.g. I’ve been using KB-1 for testing , which is fully configurable and is compatible with Salome.

Although your MPE implementation makes sense when used with the built in keyboard and perhaps other virtual MPE controller apps on ipad, it seems like an odd choice was made when you want to use it with physical MPE controllers. Is it the case that it only responds to MPE Y (cc74) and MPE X (per note pitch bend), and not MPE Z (channel aftertouch)? Thats what the UI seems to imply, and what seems to happen when I use it on the mac with an Ableton Push 3 in MPE mode.

I like the clean, simple design of this instrument and its UI, so I dont know exactly what to suggest, but its a really odd experience to have a MPE instrument that doesnt respond to per-note pressure from a physical MPE controller.

ah.. no aftertouch?

It should respond to aftertouch, channel pressure and CC74, giving priority to the strongest of the three (i.e. if it only receives one of the three, that's the one it will automatically listen to, otherwise it will take the highest value) to cover exactly this use case. Strange that it doesn't work with the Push.

MPE is still wild west, but it works perfectly with the Roli I've been testing with.

Let me look into this further for the next update (@SteveElbows can I contact you via PM for some more details about the Push implementation, perhaps?)

i have a push 3 , i will test this

LostInFoundation

I have a question (well…in facts more, but let’s limit myself 😂) @brambos

Is it possible (or planned for the future) to control external AuV3 parameters (e.g. fxs) with the MPE/MIDI output?

It would be really nice to use Salome and its keyboard with fxs after it in the chain and being able to control one (or more) parameters of those fxs with the fingers movement.

This would make this app really an unique

If not, take it as a suggestion 😉

Kashi

Great app @brambos ! Having lots of fun with it.
Am I right in saying that once latch has been pressed, none of the parameter changes affect the output? That seems weird. Also, is it possible to unlatch just one key? Is seems to be all or nothing, which again seems weird to me…

brambos

@Kashi said:
Great app @brambos ! Having lots of fun with it.
Am I right in saying that once latch has been pressed, none of the parameter changes affect the output? That seems weird. Also, is it possible to unlatch just one key? Is seems to be all or nothing, which again seems weird to me…

You can unlatch by sliding the pad to 0.

And indeed, changes take effect with the next trigger. It may sound unconventional, but it allows to have one note playing forward, the next in reverse, or different segments of the recording.

Gavinski

@brambos said:

@Kashi said:
Great app @brambos ! Having lots of fun with it.
Am I right in saying that once latch has been pressed, none of the parameter changes affect the output? That seems weird. Also, is it possible to unlatch just one key? Is seems to be all or nothing, which again seems weird to me…

You can unlatch by sliding the pad to 0.

And indeed, changes take effect with the next trigger. It may sound unconventional, but it allows to have one note playing forward, the next in reverse, or different segments of the recording.

Yes! I really like it that way

Krupa

@Gavinski said:

@brambos said:

@Kashi said:
Great app @brambos ! Having lots of fun with it.
Am I right in saying that once latch has been pressed, none of the parameter changes affect the output? That seems weird. Also, is it possible to unlatch just one key? Is seems to be all or nothing, which again seems weird to me…

You can unlatch by sliding the pad to 0.

And indeed, changes take effect with the next trigger. It may sound unconventional, but it allows to have one note playing forward, the next in reverse, or different segments of the recording.

Yes! I really like it that way

Yeah it’s a really nice touch, slightly unconventional, but really invites experimentation and play 👌

gdog

@brambos said:

@Kashi said:
Great app @brambos ! Having lots of fun with it.
Am I right in saying that once latch has been pressed, none of the parameter changes affect the output? That seems weird. Also, is it possible to unlatch just one key? Is seems to be all or nothing, which again seems weird to me…

You can unlatch by sliding the pad to 0.

And indeed, changes take effect with the next trigger. It may sound unconventional, but it allows to have one note playing forward, the next in reverse, or different segments of the recording.

Or different sections of the recording…!!! Omg that’s f***in epic! I will definitely be trying that out!! 😻🚀🎛🎸

Gavinski

@gdog said:

@brambos said:

@Kashi said:
Great app @brambos ! Having lots of fun with it.
Am I right in saying that once latch has been pressed, none of the parameter changes affect the output? That seems weird. Also, is it possible to unlatch just one key? Is seems to be all or nothing, which again seems weird to me…

You can unlatch by sliding the pad to 0.

And indeed, changes take effect with the next trigger. It may sound unconventional, but it allows to have one note playing forward, the next in reverse, or different segments of the recording.

Or different sections of the recording…!!! Omg that’s f***in epic! I will definitely be trying that out!! 😻🚀🎛🎸

Exactly! In the demo I posted above I was using 2 lfos to modulate the loop start and end times, so different start and end times were applied to each note. Really opens up the expressive possibilities

Kashi

@brambos said:

@Kashi said:
Great app @brambos ! Having lots of fun with it.
Am I right in saying that once latch has been pressed, none of the parameter changes affect the output? That seems weird. Also, is it possible to unlatch just one key? Is seems to be all or nothing, which again seems weird to me…

You can unlatch by sliding the pad to 0.

And indeed, changes take effect with the next trigger. It may sound unconventional, but it allows to have one note playing forward, the next in reverse, or different segments of the recording.

Ok cool, unconventional is good 😊

And modulating start/end points with an LFO sounds awesome too - thanks for bringing that to my attention @Gavinski !

Really looking forward to more exploration. This app reminds me of my trusty Korg Microsampler. Still my favourite hardware sampler by a long way

SteveElbows

@Danny_Mammy said:

i have a push 3 , i will test this

Please do let us know what you experience.

Based on info provided after my initial post about this, I thought that I could use a MPE Control device in Live to adjust curves of MPE dimensions so that CC74 (MPE Y AKA Slide) always stayed at 0. But even then, Salome is not responding to pressure. And even if I then change the pressure (channel aftertouch) curve so that the curve starts at a value above 0, SALOME still doesnt respond to it.

gdog

@Gavinski said:

@gdog said:

@brambos said:

@Kashi said:
Great app @brambos ! Having lots of fun with it.
Am I right in saying that once latch has been pressed, none of the parameter changes affect the output? That seems weird. Also, is it possible to unlatch just one key? Is seems to be all or nothing, which again seems weird to me…

You can unlatch by sliding the pad to 0.

And indeed, changes take effect with the next trigger. It may sound unconventional, but it allows to have one note playing forward, the next in reverse, or different segments of the recording.

Or different sections of the recording…!!! Omg that’s f***in epic! I will definitely be trying that out!! 😻🚀🎛🎸

Exactly! In the demo I posted above I was using 2 lfos to modulate the loop start and end times, so different start and end times were applied to each note. Really opens up the expressive possibilities

Kool! 👍

michael_m

@Gavinski said:

That's another demo using NoInputMixer, with a small giveaway to win any Bram apps. Winners will be picked later today. A sampler being mpe makes it hugely more appealing to me than any non mpe sampler, exactly for these kinds of experimental use cases, where you can turn a wild beast into a playable instrument that still retains its expressiveness and ability to surprise.

Cool! I caught Doug’s video already, so I’ll watch yours later (just heading out of the house or I’d watch it now).

Stuntman_mike

Just wanna say, I really love Salome ❤️ and how the name came about, super creative. Right after opening it, I was hooked because it is doing exactly what I want without the complexity of granular synths and samplers. “Sonic sandwich”, yaaaaassss very inspiring tool - a lot of new sound designers coming from this!

Now time to connect my Roli gear…

Gavinski

@michael_m said:

@Gavinski said:

That's another demo using NoInputMixer, with a small giveaway to win any Bram apps. Winners will be picked later today. A sampler being mpe makes it hugely more appealing to me than any non mpe sampler, exactly for these kinds of experimental use cases, where you can turn a wild beast into a playable instrument that still retains its expressiveness and ability to surprise.

Cool! I caught Doug’s video already, so I’ll watch yours later (just heading out of the house or I’d watch it now).

It's not a walkthrough or anything, just a little sound demo! Pinned comment has a review and a few tips tho!

tristan

@Gavinski said:

@gdog said:

@brambos said:

@Kashi said:
Great app @brambos ! Having lots of fun with it.
Am I right in saying that once latch has been pressed, none of the parameter changes affect the output? That seems weird. Also, is it possible to unlatch just one key? Is seems to be all or nothing, which again seems weird to me…

You can unlatch by sliding the pad to 0.

And indeed, changes take effect with the next trigger. It may sound unconventional, but it allows to have one note playing forward, the next in reverse, or different segments of the recording.

Or different sections of the recording…!!! Omg that’s f***in epic! I will definitely be trying that out!! 😻🚀🎛🎸

Exactly! In the demo I posted above I was using 2 lfos to modulate the loop start and end times, so different start and end times were applied to each note. Really opens up the expressive possibilities

Had no idea this was possible. I know what I'm playing with this weekend!

Gavinski

@tristan said:

@Gavinski said:

@gdog said:

@brambos said:

@Kashi said:
Great app @brambos ! Having lots of fun with it.
Am I right in saying that once latch has been pressed, none of the parameter changes affect the output? That seems weird. Also, is it possible to unlatch just one key? Is seems to be all or nothing, which again seems weird to me…

You can unlatch by sliding the pad to 0.

And indeed, changes take effect with the next trigger. It may sound unconventional, but it allows to have one note playing forward, the next in reverse, or different segments of the recording.

Or different sections of the recording…!!! Omg that’s f***in epic! I will definitely be trying that out!! 😻🚀🎛🎸

Exactly! In the demo I posted above I was using 2 lfos to modulate the loop start and end times, so different start and end times were applied to each note. Really opens up the expressive possibilities

Had no idea this was possible. I know what I'm playing with this weekend!

Enjoy!

Model10000

Congrats on the release. Really love the Bram Bros sense of design, always a lot of thought and soul felt in the apps. Haven’t bought this one yet mostly because if I’m sampling I want a way to quickly preview tons of files that aren’t in the app (especially with no arrows in preset browser) and then after finding one be able to drag and drop to the app. That’s part of a super fast workflow for me. Some way to access folders via Files app a la Koala and I’d pick it up in a heartbeat.

mikewb

@brambos said:

@Kashi said:
Great app @brambos ! Having lots of fun with it.
Am I right in saying that once latch has been pressed, none of the parameter changes affect the output? That seems weird. Also, is it possible to unlatch just one key? Is seems to be all or nothing, which again seems weird to me…

You can unlatch by sliding the pad to 0.

And indeed, changes take effect with the next trigger. It may sound unconventional, but it allows to have one note playing forward, the next in reverse, or different segments of the recording.

That is such a great feature.

Kashi

@Gavinski said:

@gdog said:

@brambos said:

@Kashi said:
Great app @brambos ! Having lots of fun with it.
Am I right in saying that once latch has been pressed, none of the parameter changes affect the output? That seems weird. Also, is it possible to unlatch just one key? Is seems to be all or nothing, which again seems weird to me…

You can unlatch by sliding the pad to 0.

And indeed, changes take effect with the next trigger. It may sound unconventional, but it allows to have one note playing forward, the next in reverse, or different segments of the recording.

Or different sections of the recording…!!! Omg that’s f***in epic! I will definitely be trying that out!! 😻🚀🎛🎸

Exactly! In the demo I posted above I was using 2 lfos to modulate the loop start and end times, so different start and end times were applied to each note. Really opens up the expressive possibilities

You mean using other third party LFOs as opposed to the built-in one right?

auxmux

This is awesome! I'd really love an option to have diatonic keyboard so it was easy to use different keys in standalone mode.