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@shortbus said:
yeah makes no sense at all
fudge, so many people like to think of korg as forward thinking too, whenever there is a hardware dry spell they tend to make you think they are going to come out with something interesting and they usually beat others too the punch, but I don't know what's the deal with their samplers. if you want to skimp on something whatever it is should not have anything to do with sampling or sample editing if what you're putting out is a sampler….. that goes for this or gadget, it's like they're taking pages straight out of native instruments and maschine.
i have to add though that I prob will still get both of the new electribes cause it's still the korg environment and the limitations will def produce some interesting outcomes no doubt.. I'm not happy about unnecessarily imposing limitations but when you understand that they are they are there before hand you tend to use something for what it is, and as a former electribe owner this is something I'm used to. Many were just hoping that things would be different with any new electribes that came out.
I do think Korg is fairly forward thinking compared to other big companies but I've also found that they almost always tend to leave out some crucial features as if it's done intentionally, especially when it comes to Electribes. It took until the EMX/ESX models until patterns could save mute/solo states and these new Electribes are the first ones to actually have an attack envelope. I guess this allows them to "upgrade" to a newer version a few years later. Hopefully sample capacity will be increased for Electribe Sampler MKII.
@kobamoto said:
Totally. Like the Volca Sampler (er, Sample Sequencer) that doesn't actually, you know, sample (insert clever eyeroll smiley here).
I don't think that particular curio or the sample limit on the Electribe detracts from Korg being basically the only old guard hardware manufacturer actually innovating these days though. The volcas are sweet at a sweet price. Monotribes? Awesome. The apps are all pretty great. Where are Roland/Yamaha with apps? Or hardware really. Roland's Plug-out? Seriously? Another round of rompler 'workstations'? C'mon. I'm going to wait until the Electribes are actually out to start judging because at this point Korg is doing a whole lot right. Sounds like the synth version is coming up rainbows. Let's see what they pull off in the sampler.
i agree that it's not smart to write them off just yet, but the sampling standards we need are basic and old hat stuff by now, whether it's software, hardware, or iOS and devs of korgs caliber shouldn't waste time pretending like they don't know what's needed, look at bilbao and abudahbi, and now possibly the electribe sampler… really? do they really need to be asked to be able to edit samples in gadget, etc… or begged for some more sample time… I just don't know what they are up to. It's like it's 2014 do we really have to beg native instruments for recordable muting in maschine after 5 years, really ?
no wonder so many people are just like fudge gimme any old controller and ableton and let me be done with it
What are we missing here? If some of these basic capabilities (in the context of the given product) are not included I can only hear the chatter of some marketing meeting where men get together in their political little committee to design a racehorse but all too often end up with a camel. I am a socialist by nature, but in matters like these I long for the Benign Dictator
here here!
@kobamoto said:
Well, at least you can record mute as volume automation in Maschine. And since its brain resides in computer software, it can always be improved by NI as they have been doing. Whereas with these Electribes, certain design decisions like the limited sampling capacity is what you'll always be stuck with, unless you shell out more money for their "new and improved" updated version a few years later.
good point, although allot of the software devs are acting like hardware devs these days ni in point, who knew state of the art software could be so inflexible for so long?
but your point about the electribe is well taken
Talking about Maschine i want to buy one the mikro, does anyone here have one Maschine? Is it good?
@Aphex said:
I would go for a regular MKII. You'll miss all the fun with the knobs with the Mikro.
Agreed, the knobs make a huge difference. The sound library alone is worth the money.
If you like the typical "hardware flow", the MK2 is essential. But if you prefer to work mainly with your computer screen, the Mikro is sufficient in most cases. The biggest drawback of Maschine Mikro are the missing parameter-locks when using the hardware as step sequencer.
Some more info... although in German
Korg really needs to release some sound demos for the synth. I've only heard this thing making some very basic lame VA sounds a la Super Mario 1. They make a big deal out of this kingKorg thing, but doesn't have any proper sound demos to show for it, which is a bit untypical for Korg...Still, I'm looking at getting the synth version as soon as it hits my part of the planet.
@ChrisG said:
They're up for a while.
The guy in the video shows only the basics. Most of them are already known from other videos or from the manual. No word about the most wanted answers regarding song arrangement, pattern changing gaps, etc. However, the basic sound of this little machine seems to be great -- at least for me.
The sound is good, but I can hear little gaps when it changes patterns I think. Still really interested, need some more info about storage etc.
Thanks for the videos and sound demos. I've seen and heard them before though. 1 or 2 of the soundcloud demos shows some promise on what it might be able to do with the basic analog modeling oscs. Hopefully korg (or someone else) will be able to do a better job of demoing what kind of sounds you can squeeze out of it when making a sound from scratch, starting out with a basic VA osc.
Agreed, kind of weak demos so far, but that's par for the course for music gear
Korg has said the gaps during pattern playback only happen when the settings between patterns are drastically different, and they expect it to be fixed in an OS update before it ships.
what really piqued my interest about the sampler is that it's battery-powered. . . !
@Tarekith said:
Yea you are definitely right about that
Just me getting anxious on getting my hands on one I guess.
Speaking of, Korg UK (on Twitter) told me today that "it looks like a December release for UK". I hope that means a December rel for the rest of EU as well.
Interesting. I just had a really good chance to grab an EMX-1 again, think I'll go that route until the new one drops
@Tarekith said:
Electribe Sampler as add-on to the EMX will combine the best of two worlds.
Not ready to make that conclusion until I know more about what the new sampler can actually do
Not exactly my piece of pie, but sounds full
@alexbuga said:
;-) A little bit boring. Anyway, thanks for the link.
I'm going to start posting songs on YouTube and just stick a picture of the Etribe on the video to confuse people