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ABF Nanny State?
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No! It has not.
How could it when no was the response to question one!
That question has no bearing either as no one is (being manipulated).
Can I ask you a question? Are you a Chinese living in China (based on your name), just curious.
No.
No.
I have yet to see a moderator step in to close this thread, nor have I seen a moderator advise you to "knock it off", thereby letting you fall flat on your face based on your own actions.
In other words, despite making a terrible first impression, the moderators ARE treating you as an adult. I honestly don't see the issue here.
A. No, Audiobus Forum hasn't become a Nanny State, despite your implication it has. If you believe it has, you're more than welcome to persue your conversational needs elsewhere where the free flowing, "just asking questions" type of discourse is thriving.
This is, as it always has been, a music first forum and your freedom to live your life however you choose and speak about whatever you want is widely accepted elsewhere.
Again, this is a music first forum.
A. Has what gone too far? By "it" i'll have to assume you mean the implication your leading question asked about a non-issue that most disagree with?
A. In what world, do you believe that asking any questions like these will garner a produtive conversation while the whole time leading us to immediately conclude an agreement with your leading questions?
This forum does treat us like adultss, and no one is being manipulated, other than ourselves and FOMOing on maybe a couple too many apps.
Other than that, your questions aren't being asked in a positive way and are quite rude to the mods and community members, as well as yourself. Your communication skills, AI based or not translations, aren't a productive way to ask questions is any culture.
Your questions, as they were originally stated and currently reasked, are rude and lead to make baseless claims against the mods and users of this forum with little to basically no respect. You made a fake sockpuppet account and then didn't answer anyone for over 12 hours.
Was there a little fun being had at your expense? Sure. But being the butt of a joke when asking rude questions in an argumentative way will always lead to you being the butt of the joke if you aren't on the thread where you asked the questions for several hours.
Noone, "bullied, insulted, abused, attacked, or ganged up" on you for asking messed up questions.
New sequel idea for "Nanny State" - "Nanny State 2; The Next Day; Gaslight Edition."
Peace, kindness and happiness to you as well!!
Yeah I was super pissed about that. And the same year Zodiac got NO big nominations and it was my personal favorite of that year and I believe up with the very best.
I agree with you though. I adore the Coen Bros and Cormac McCarthy and love NCFOM, but TWBB is on another level and is the kind of film that only comes around once every so often. A real, true, all time great classic.
Oh! And the Smile! I haven’t heard it yet but I saw where it came out. I’m excited to give it a listen.
2007 was such a good year. I remember watching all of those movies in a theatre (I worked in one when I got out to the city on my own for the first time) and throughly enjoyed all of them. Zodiac is incredible!
Don't go into The Killer with too many expectations. It's a fun romp but it isn't Fincher's "Gone Girl", "Social Network", or even "Fight Club." - It's a fun romp and that's all it is.
Honestly I don’t think your questions deserve answers. They’re all quite obviously leading questions and you’re quite obviously doing the thing you’re accusing the mods of doing in question #3.
This all seems designed to get people to co-sign on the bonkers notion that a niche music forum is somehow a police state with mods hiding in the ether acting as some kind of shadow force. And now you seem upset that no one agreed so you’re doubling down.
I haven’t seen anyone bully you or insult you or gang up on and/or abuse you. People starting making jokes because the entire premise is absurd. If you want to be treated like an adult then act like one. If you want respect and answers to your questions then ask them respectfully. Simple as that.
The way you’re going about this makes it seem like you’re not well and I genuinely hope you’re doing okay.
Great response. You’re probably right to lead with hoping they’re well, but it’s hard to know they’re true intentions or well-being. Online discourse is a slippery slope.
Either way, great response. Much more kindness than necessary all things considered, but it’s admirable none the less. Cheers
@NannyState : you state as a fact that we are being manipulated by mods. I see no evidence of this. What gives you reason to believe the mods are being manipulative?
Imo, if you make an accusation like that, you should be able to support it with facts.
Fwiw, I am pretty sure that the mods only step in and close or sink a thread when there have been a number of complaints and only if they think the content complaints are reasonable.
^ Post of the day award right there. 😂
True this could all very well be ill-intentioned. I hope not but like you said, you can never tell.
The only reason I ask is mentioning things like police states, mods in the shadows, being manipulated by them, especially in the case of something as insignificant as an Internet forum, can often be signs of something else going on or of something else building up. But I don’t want to diagnose someone online or accuse anyone of anything. Just felt maybe it’s worth asking on the chance something is genuinely wrong. Who knows maybe I’m blowing it out of proportion now 😂
This doesn’t belong in ‘General App Discussion’, could one of the nannies please move this to ‘Other’?
Gaslighting symptom. You start questioning if you’re in the wrong. You aren’t.
Could be a symptom of the culture they’re from? I don’t know. Shouldn’t speculate
Nanny State 3; There Will Be Just Questions
What an interesting thread. I'm struggling for ideas for my next track, and five pages later, I still learned f*ck all 😂
I think the one thing we can all agree on is that No Country For Old Men should’ve gotten the Oscar for its musical score!
“Just asking questions” is how to become a Socratic philosopher or it’s polar opposite Tucker Carlson
The categories are self organizing
A pleasure....
More of the same from the few. I hear your message. But if communication is being choked by threads being closed of course you are being manipulated. If people are hounded, stopped or banned for holding a truthful but negative opinion about an app or developer or something else of course you are being manipulated. Even if you can’t see it, that is manipulation. I don’t believe the rulers are being intentionally nefarious. Those who defend the state so aggressively and never stop to question are happy and enjoy to be controlled. You may be blind, deaf and childlike but blissfully unaware and obedient. It’s OK you choose to be this way but don’t pretend otherwise. This has become uglier on the inside than it was from the outside. I wish you more love, more intelligence and less hateful.
I can’t wait to see the implosion when this thread is closed.
Rule #1:
Now you just trolling, this is not your country (how is president xi these days? open and welcoming to criticism?) but a privately run website.
But you're wrong there. Threads don't get shut down just because someone holds a negative view of an app. They get shut down if the tone gets excessively rude, or if there are personal attacks violating personal guidelines are violated, or if the discussion just descends into pointless circular arguing.
No thread has ever been closed simply for someone having stated a negative opinion of an app or developer in a respectful way. Like an adult.
The complaint in the two threads that got closed recently was valid. Some people, including me, acknowledged as much. Some disagreed and felt the developer deserved a chance. Some characterized their disagreement as "attacks". Disagreeing isn't "hounding"! It's simply open discussion.
People get provoked by agressive and provoking tone. So what? If you're rude to developers we appreciate, expect rebuttals. If it gets out of hand, expect a thread closure. If you want to be treated as an adult, act like one.
The points had been made. The tone was becoming toxic. Toxic isn't welcome and doesn't need to be left unchecked. Two threads were closed. No one was banned. No big deal.
That's a far, far cry from manipulation.
This is now moving into trolling.
The OP has made his points (several times), it has been discussed, and now he is on auto-repeat simply to get a reaction from members.
No implosion - just quietude
Yeh, I'm done. Tried to reason with them - didn't work. Blocking and moving on. Thanks for waking me up.
Nanny State 4; Sound of Freedom?
Listen, I remember the first time I read Animal Farm, and then 1984 as well.
I didn't decide to make those novels my whole personality and call others childlike, blind, and deaf and obediant. Awful takes.
Noone was being hateful. Wishing people love, more intelligence, and less hateful is condecending and I hope you enjoy your eventual, properly earned, future ban. Go be miserable elsewhere.
Best of luck with all of whatever you're doing.
🤪 - DYING LOL
We're all better for finally being woken up.. Thanks for this thread.
😜
So true.