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ABF Nanny State?

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    @NannyState said:

    Q. Has the Audiobus Forum become a Nanny State?

    No! It has not.

    Q. Has it gone too far?

    How could it when no was the response to question one!

    Q. Are you happy being manipulated or should we be treated like adults?

    That question has no bearing either as no one is (being manipulated).


    Can I ask you a question? Are you a Chinese living in China (based on your name), just curious.

  • @NannyState said:
    Q. Has the Audiobus Forum become a Nanny State?

    No.

    Q. Has it gone too far?

    No.

    Q. Are you happy being manipulated or should we be treated like adults?

    I have yet to see a moderator step in to close this thread, nor have I seen a moderator advise you to "knock it off", thereby letting you fall flat on your face based on your own actions.

    In other words, despite making a terrible first impression, the moderators ARE treating you as an adult. I honestly don't see the issue here.

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  • edited January 2024

    @offbrands said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @offbrands said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @offbrands said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    The movie should be basically a 90 minute teaser that never actually gets to the plot so there’s just anticipation building and building and then, boom. Credits. No release. And then the closing music ends with a diminished chord so the music never resolves either. And there is no veiled message in the movie either, it’s just really funny to me and my dry sense of humor.

    😂 I love it. Gotta make sure to include the movie trailer narrator voice through the whole movie too

    “In a world where users of a niche online music forum called ABF must question what has become of their beloved community, when less than 5 threads have been deleted, the the real question looms large over one user who dares to go where no man has gone before, to just asking the real questions…

    WHAT IF ABF has become a Nanny State?”

    “Coming Soon to a theater near you.”

    Hans Zimmer is gonna be all over this.

    Hey, I’m going to join the “there’s a conspiracy!” camp if Buck Sanders and Marco Beltrami don’t get that scoring gig!

    I’m just glad to see some love to other music composers haha. John Williams and Zimmer are usually the go to’s but there are so many.

    Love the name drops @HotStrange - @JeffChasteen, Those men are legends. Full stop.

    I defaulted to picturing Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross as that's my most listened to composers as of late.

    "The Social Network" OST is bonkers and even the latest "The Killer" OST are the kinda noise my ears like, apparently. Just so synth heavy and noisy. Feels like that fits the bill a bit more with this forum.

    Also, Jonny Greenwood is a mad man. I listened to the There Will be Blood OST more than I should admit.

    I'd be remiss to leave this comment without mentioning Nicholas Britell, his score/motif's throughout the 4 seasons of Succession are mind-blowing. Season 4 OST is a constant in my life since it dropped.

    No we’re talking! I haven’t seen the Killer yet - it’s on my list - so I’ve avoided listening to the score also but Trent and Atticus are a dynamic duo for sure. I’m a huge NiN fan as well so maybe I’m biased but like you said, they make some amazing noise.

    TWBB is a classic too. And to think, Greenwood got denied an Oscar nom because he used one small part from another composer which apparently cuts you off from “best original score” nominations.

    I still, this many years later, hate that fact that he was denied that. At least he was honest about it so I give it to him there. I also don't think the overall best pic winner "No Country for Old Men" is anywhere near as cultrally relevent as TWBB. I. Drink. Your. Milkshake! I drink it up!" - I see that line as a meme or clip reguarly, still!

    Have you listened to The Smile's - "Wall of Eyes" at all yet? Just came out Friday! It's a pretty good LP. Greenwood and Yorke are fantastic, I'm pretty stoked on this project.

    Yeah I was super pissed about that. And the same year Zodiac got NO big nominations and it was my personal favorite of that year and I believe up with the very best.

    I agree with you though. I adore the Coen Bros and Cormac McCarthy and love NCFOM, but TWBB is on another level and is the kind of film that only comes around once every so often. A real, true, all time great classic.

    Oh! And the Smile! I haven’t heard it yet but I saw where it came out. I’m excited to give it a listen.

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  • @NannyState said:
    I do not need to be taken seriously by anyone here, this is not my whole life. I like my freedom, not to be dictated to, do this or do that.

    I thought I did ask 3 questions in my original post but English is not my first language so I use AI to translate. Maybe it translated wrong but I intended:

    Q. Has the Audiobus Forum become a Nanny State?
    Q. Has it gone too far?
    Q. Are you happy being manipulated or should we be treated like adults?

    These are I think the same questions I asked again. I don’t want to be bullied, insulted, abused, attacked and ganged up on for asking questions. But these are your freedoms, to be who you really are and these things reflect only upon you. This was my point beneath my questions.

    Peace, kindness and happiness to you all.

    Honestly I don’t think your questions deserve answers. They’re all quite obviously leading questions and you’re quite obviously doing the thing you’re accusing the mods of doing in question #3.

    This all seems designed to get people to co-sign on the bonkers notion that a niche music forum is somehow a police state with mods hiding in the ether acting as some kind of shadow force. And now you seem upset that no one agreed so you’re doubling down.

    I haven’t seen anyone bully you or insult you or gang up on and/or abuse you. People starting making jokes because the entire premise is absurd. If you want to be treated like an adult then act like one. If you want respect and answers to your questions then ask them respectfully. Simple as that.

    The way you’re going about this makes it seem like you’re not well and I genuinely hope you’re doing okay.

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    @NannyState : you state as a fact that we are being manipulated by mods. I see no evidence of this. What gives you reason to believe the mods are being manipulative?

    Imo, if you make an accusation like that, you should be able to support it with facts.

    Fwiw, I am pretty sure that the mods only step in and close or sink a thread when there have been a number of complaints and only if they think the content complaints are reasonable.

  • ^ Post of the day award right there. 😂

  • @offbrands said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @NannyState said:
    I do not need to be taken seriously by anyone here, this is not my whole life. I like my freedom, not to be dictated to, do this or do that.

    I thought I did ask 3 questions in my original post but English is not my first language so I use AI to translate. Maybe it translated wrong but I intended:

    Q. Has the Audiobus Forum become a Nanny State?
    Q. Has it gone too far?
    Q. Are you happy being manipulated or should we be treated like adults?

    These are I think the same questions I asked again. I don’t want to be bullied, insulted, abused, attacked and ganged up on for asking questions. But these are your freedoms, to be who you really are and these things reflect only upon you. This was my point beneath my questions.

    Peace, kindness and happiness to you all.

    Honestly I don’t think your questions deserve answers. They’re all quite obviously leading questions and you’re quite obviously doing the thing you’re accusing the mods of doing in question #3.

    This all seems designed to get people to co-sign on the bonkers notion that a niche music forum is somehow a police state with mods hiding in the ether acting as some kind of shadow force. And now you seem upset that no one agreed so you’re doubling down.

    I haven’t seen anyone bully you or insult you or gang up on and/or abuse you. People starting making jokes because the entire premise is absurd. If you want to be treated like an adult then act like one. If you want respect and answers to your questions then ask them respectfully. Simple as that.

    The way you’re going about this makes it seem like you’re not well and I genuinely hope you’re doing okay.

    Great response. You’re probably right to lead with hoping they’re well, but it’s hard to know they’re true intentions or well-being. Online discourse is a slippery slope.

    Either way, great response. Much more kindness than necessary all things considered, but it’s admirable none the less. Cheers

    True this could all very well be ill-intentioned. I hope not but like you said, you can never tell.

    The only reason I ask is mentioning things like police states, mods in the shadows, being manipulated by them, especially in the case of something as insignificant as an Internet forum, can often be signs of something else going on or of something else building up. But I don’t want to diagnose someone online or accuse anyone of anything. Just felt maybe it’s worth asking on the chance something is genuinely wrong. Who knows maybe I’m blowing it out of proportion now 😂

  • This doesn’t belong in ‘General App Discussion’, could one of the nannies please move this to ‘Other’? :p

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  • What an interesting thread. I'm struggling for ideas for my next track, and five pages later, I still learned f*ck all 😂

  • I think the one thing we can all agree on is that No Country For Old Men should’ve gotten the Oscar for its musical score! ;)

  • “Just asking questions” is how to become a Socratic philosopher or it’s polar opposite Tucker Carlson

    The categories are self organizing

  • @R_2 said:
    This doesn’t belong in ‘General App Discussion’, could one of the nannies please move this to ‘Other’? :p

    A pleasure....

  • More of the same from the few. I hear your message. But if communication is being choked by threads being closed of course you are being manipulated. If people are hounded, stopped or banned for holding a truthful but negative opinion about an app or developer or something else of course you are being manipulated. Even if you can’t see it, that is manipulation. I don’t believe the rulers are being intentionally nefarious. Those who defend the state so aggressively and never stop to question are happy and enjoy to be controlled. You may be blind, deaf and childlike but blissfully unaware and obedient. It’s OK you choose to be this way but don’t pretend otherwise. This has become uglier on the inside than it was from the outside. I wish you more love, more intelligence and less hateful.

  • I can’t wait to see the implosion when this thread is closed.

    Rule #1:

    This community is all about making music, with a focus on the iOS music world. Please keep all content related to music and music-making.

  • @NannyState said:
    More of the same from the few. I hear your message. But if communication is being choked by threads being closed of course you are being manipulated. If people are hounded, stopped or banned for holding a truthful but negative opinion about an app or developer or something else of course you are being manipulated. Even if you can’t see it, that is manipulation. I don’t believe the rulers are being intentionally nefarious. Those who defend the state so aggressively and never stop to question are happy and enjoy to be controlled. You may be blind, deaf and childlike but blissfully unaware and obedient. It’s OK you choose to be this way but don’t pretend otherwise. This has become uglier on the inside than it was from the outside. I wish you more love, more intelligence and less hateful.

    Now you just trolling, this is not your country (how is president xi these days? open and welcoming to criticism?) but a privately run website.

  • wimwim
    edited January 2024

    @NannyState said:
    More of the same from the few. I hear your message. But if communication is being choked by threads being closed of course you are being manipulated. If people are hounded, stopped or banned for holding a truthful but negative opinion about an app or developer or something else of course you are being manipulated. Even if you can’t see it, that is manipulation. I don’t believe the rulers are being intentionally nefarious. Those who defend the state so aggressively and never stop to question are happy and enjoy to be controlled. You may be blind, deaf and childlike but blissfully unaware and obedient. It’s OK you choose to be this way but don’t pretend otherwise. This has become uglier on the inside than it was from the outside. I wish you more love, more intelligence and less hateful.

    But you're wrong there. Threads don't get shut down just because someone holds a negative view of an app. They get shut down if the tone gets excessively rude, or if there are personal attacks violating personal guidelines are violated, or if the discussion just descends into pointless circular arguing.

    No thread has ever been closed simply for someone having stated a negative opinion of an app or developer in a respectful way. Like an adult.

    The complaint in the two threads that got closed recently was valid. Some people, including me, acknowledged as much. Some disagreed and felt the developer deserved a chance. Some characterized their disagreement as "attacks". Disagreeing isn't "hounding"! It's simply open discussion.

    People get provoked by agressive and provoking tone. So what? If you're rude to developers we appreciate, expect rebuttals. If it gets out of hand, expect a thread closure. If you want to be treated as an adult, act like one.

    The points had been made. The tone was becoming toxic. Toxic isn't welcome and doesn't need to be left unchecked. Two threads were closed. No one was banned. No big deal.

    That's a far, far cry from manipulation.

  • This is now moving into trolling.

    The OP has made his points (several times), it has been discussed, and now he is on auto-repeat simply to get a reaction from members.

  • @McD said:
    I can’t wait to see the implosion when this thread is closed.

    Rule #1:

    This community is all about making music, with a focus on the iOS music world. Please keep all content related to music and music-making.

    No implosion - just quietude

  • wimwim
    edited January 2024

    @Simon said:
    This is now moving into trolling.

    The OP has made his points (several times), it has been discussed, and now he is on auto-repeat simply to get a reaction from members.

    Yeh, I'm done. Tried to reason with them - didn't work. Blocking and moving on. Thanks for waking me up.

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  • @NannyState said:
    More of the same from the few. I hear your message. But if communication is being choked by threads being closed of course you are being manipulated. If people are hounded, stopped or banned for holding a truthful but negative opinion about an app or developer or something else of course you are being manipulated. Even if you can’t see it, that is manipulation. I don’t believe the rulers are being intentionally nefarious. Those who defend the state so aggressively and never stop to question are happy and enjoy to be controlled. You may be blind, deaf and childlike but blissfully unaware and obedient. It’s OK you choose to be this way but don’t pretend otherwise. This has become uglier on the inside than it was from the outside. I wish you more love, more intelligence and less hateful.

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