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So, that invalidates every point made in the article? Really? There are no concerns anyone should consider? None? Everything there is complete BS?
Huh.
Here's one mixed review, in which Nilay Patel of The Verge says many positive things, while acknowledging shortcomings.
And here's Brian Tong's 1 hour review:
These are reviews of the actual product. Not speculation.
And if you'd like to watch a video by an unabashed fan of Apple's products, there is "iJustine".
Think it'll be interesting to see some real world feedback rather than from reviewers who've not had to buy the thing...
John Gruber’s review was pretty even-handed as well: https://daringfireball.net/2024/01/the_vision_pro.
The dork factor on these headsets rates very high…
I used to think the same about apple wireless AirPods until I go them as well. Now everyone has something similar.
I suspect this will be the same when you can buy much cheaper versions down the line (maybe from Samsung etc...)
The dork factor on smartphones was pretty high too, back when the best thing going was the Treo. Opinions change.
I'm not the target market for this kind of device. I might never be. But among those who are, they say Apple's is the best to date. Just because something isn't for you, don't assume the same of others.
People in the reviews seem most exited about the single virtual Mac window emulating the size of a 1440p screen, and that's a feature that even $400 smartglasses of the size of real sunglasses can deliver now when plugged into a phone, laptop or tablet.
Improving the awkward ergonomy of laptops and detach the keyboard from the screen and make desktop productivity portable is a killer feature for these lightweight smartglasses. The Visor from Immersed will be the one to watch until Apple reduces the size or creates a competitor with a reduced feature set, without the VR stuff.
A bunch of guys sitting around talking about a product instead of demonstrating it? I don't believe they have anything. Their web site says "Ships in 2024"... well, just wait for the reviews then. LOL.
There are many reviews for the XReal Air 1 and 2 and a couple of other brands with similar sunglasses style smartglasses, this Visor is basically a better non chinese version of that.
Immersed makes the go to productivity environment for VR headsets, that's what they're known for. Given the current state of smartglasses I have little doubt that they can deliver.
Like I said, wait to see an actual product. If they deliver something better, people will buy it.
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@NeuM That video answered a lot of questions for me. I'll get a Vision Pro headset when the weight of it comes down. I had a Quest 2 for a short time but it gave me serious headaches. I'm not prone to headaches or to any kind motion sickness but I got both with the Quest, although, with the exception of the one game that made me dizzy I enjoyed the games in the Quest very much.
I hope some devs make music apps and games for the Vision Pro.
If I ever get one, it'll probably be the 4th or 5th version. I was only an early adopter with the iPad Pro because I had previously the smaller original iPad.
It's easy for them to create something "better" because they focus on a subset of what the VP can do, and that's augmenting existing mobile computers with desktop productivity. Something that's crippled on the VP but people are still the most excited about because they're used to monitors and want them anywhere.
And if that’s all the functionality you want, then that’s probably a better option for you. The AVP is doing a whole lot of other stuff, including smoothly integrating its app workspace with that virtual Mac window so that you can drag-and-drop content between them.
Will be interesting and potentially useful when designed in use case of an ipad app which can extend off of it's screen into the virtual space. So it can do DAW timelines etc better. But only when the glasses are light enough to not notice them so much, will wait until then
Sure, but Macs and iPads are already well integrated, you don't give this up by plugging in smartglasses instead of monitor.
My point was that using the Mac-mirroring feature on the AVP, you can in fact have multiple windows open in virtual space and exchange content between them. A set of third-party smartglasses acting as a virtual monitor isn’t giving you that functionality.
It'll be interesting to see which existing apps are best suited for use in this headset, but it'll be even more interesting to see which completely new apps are developed. This is just the beginning for this category with Apple.
I wonder what iPad version of Logic Pro in the headset would be like?
Should theoretically scale up to the virtual 4K display, so that might be interesting.
You can already open multiple Mac windows with existing smartglasses. The AVP allows you to have one Mac window and mix it with multiple ipad apps within the same sphere. But why would I use iPad apps if Mac apps are much more appropriate for the use with a mouse or trackpad?
I think the AVP in the heavy standalone format is more interesting for 3D modeling, design and architecture than desktop productivity or entertainment and tasks you could already do or experience in a lighter headset in a much more comfortable way.
If it wouldn't be just a blown up tablet view that doesn't give you much more information.
Here's an article. Says the AVP can be mirrored on a real-world monitor at 720p, but then it says you can also mirror to the in-headset virtual monitor at 4K. I'm not sure how much of this is accurate.
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/19/vision-pro-airplay-content/
They'd need to implement a mode in Logic that takes advantage of the higher screen resolution, similar to the OS scale function in MacOS where you can adjust the amount of information on screen. If you use normal scaling a 4k monitor still provides the same information like a 1080p monitor, just with increased pixel density.
Afaik if you plug an iPad Pro with Logic into a 4k monitor and use the extended monitor stuff you still get the large inefficient iPad UI. The same would happen with an iPad window inside the VP.
Has anyone here tried hooking up or streaming a session of Logic Pro on iPad to a 4K monitor?
That's one of the videos I've found before I made my decision against such a setup:
I've also asked a user who owned an iPad Air 5 about the options he had when connected to an external display and he confirmed that it looked like in the video.
The guy In the video uses a Huawei Mateview 4k monitor.
Well, it's not Logic Pro for desktop, so I wouldn't expect it to magically become something else. However, I think they'll probably be able to refine it a bit further so it feels a bit more suited for a larger display at some point.