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  • abfabf

    I like the idea of not having to buy a big monitor. I like not being stuck at a desk. I like the idea of having a monitor I can resize and place anywhere. I like the idea of looking at photos up close on a big screen. I like the idea of not having to buy a big screen tv. I like VR. I like AR. I enjoy spatial audio.

    Apple has been creating the tech to create the Vision Pro for years, they're not going to give up on it. I think we're looking at the infancy of the screenless future, it needs refining and innovation. I think it's something from the starship enterprise.

    You will later remember what I wrote.

  • TarekithTarekith

    I always forget what I wrote.

  • drezdrez

    @Tarekith said:
    I always forget what I wrote.

    😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • wimwim

    Some fashion statements are worth it, no matter the price tag.

  • Danny_MammyDanny_Mammy

    remember when the iPod came out? everyone wanted one, iPhone comes out and everyone wanted one, not the same with the apple googles.

  • realdaweirealdawei

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @cyberheater said:
    I wonder what iPad version of Logic Pro in the headset would be like?

    Should theoretically scale up to the virtual 4K display, so that might be interesting.

    If it wouldn't be just a blown up tablet view that doesn't give you much more information.

    Here's an article. Says the AVP can be mirrored on a real-world monitor at 720p, but then it says you can also mirror to the in-headset virtual monitor at 4K. I'm not sure how much of this is accurate.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/19/vision-pro-airplay-content/

    They'd need to implement a mode in Logic that takes advantage of the higher screen resolution, similar to the OS scale function in MacOS where you can adjust the amount of information on screen. If you use normal scaling a 4k monitor still provides the same information like a 1080p monitor, just with increased pixel density.

    Afaik if you plug an iPad Pro with Logic into a 4k monitor and use the extended monitor stuff you still get the large inefficient iPad UI. The same would happen with an iPad window inside the VP.

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @cyberheater said:
    I wonder what iPad version of Logic Pro in the headset would be like?

    Should theoretically scale up to the virtual 4K display, so that might be interesting.

    If it wouldn't be just a blown up tablet view that doesn't give you much more information.

    Here's an article. Says the AVP can be mirrored on a real-world monitor at 720p, but then it says you can also mirror to the in-headset virtual monitor at 4K. I'm not sure how much of this is accurate.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/19/vision-pro-airplay-content/

    They'd need to implement a mode in Logic that takes advantage of the higher screen resolution, similar to the OS scale function in MacOS where you can adjust the amount of information on screen. If you use normal scaling a 4k monitor still provides the same information like a 1080p monitor, just with increased pixel density.

    Afaik if you plug an iPad Pro with Logic into a 4k monitor and use the extended monitor stuff you still get the large inefficient iPad UI. The same would happen with an iPad window inside the VP.

    Has anyone here tried hooking up or streaming a session of Logic Pro on iPad to a 4K monitor?

    That's one of the videos I've found before I made my decision against such a setup:

    I've also asked a user who owned an iPad Air 5 about the options he had when connected to an external display and he confirmed that it looked like in the video.

    The guy In the video uses a Huawei Mateview 4k monitor.

    This must be a an older video because Logic Pro for iPad absolutely scales to fill the 4k display. It had a stage manager update which however means you have to activate stage manager to get it and not use mirroring.

    I use Logic Pro on a 43 inch 4k monitor and it is actually more screen efficient than Logic Pro desktop. version. Once they add Flex Pitch and sampler UI the desktop version is cooked.

  • cuscolimacuscolima

    @wim said:
    Some fashion statements are worth it, no matter the price tag.

    Remember that people were laughing at the IPad at first

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    remember when the iPod came out? everyone wanted one, iPhone comes out and everyone wanted one, not the same with the apple googles.

    Do you have a spare $3,500 laying around? But seriously, this is clearly a product for early adopters and I'm sure they'll sell every single unit they make.

  • kirmesteggnokirmesteggno

    @realdawei said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @cyberheater said:
    I wonder what iPad version of Logic Pro in the headset would be like?

    Should theoretically scale up to the virtual 4K display, so that might be interesting.

    If it wouldn't be just a blown up tablet view that doesn't give you much more information.

    Here's an article. Says the AVP can be mirrored on a real-world monitor at 720p, but then it says you can also mirror to the in-headset virtual monitor at 4K. I'm not sure how much of this is accurate.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/19/vision-pro-airplay-content/

    They'd need to implement a mode in Logic that takes advantage of the higher screen resolution, similar to the OS scale function in MacOS where you can adjust the amount of information on screen. If you use normal scaling a 4k monitor still provides the same information like a 1080p monitor, just with increased pixel density.

    Afaik if you plug an iPad Pro with Logic into a 4k monitor and use the extended monitor stuff you still get the large inefficient iPad UI. The same would happen with an iPad window inside the VP.

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @cyberheater said:
    I wonder what iPad version of Logic Pro in the headset would be like?

    Should theoretically scale up to the virtual 4K display, so that might be interesting.

    If it wouldn't be just a blown up tablet view that doesn't give you much more information.

    Here's an article. Says the AVP can be mirrored on a real-world monitor at 720p, but then it says you can also mirror to the in-headset virtual monitor at 4K. I'm not sure how much of this is accurate.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/19/vision-pro-airplay-content/

    They'd need to implement a mode in Logic that takes advantage of the higher screen resolution, similar to the OS scale function in MacOS where you can adjust the amount of information on screen. If you use normal scaling a 4k monitor still provides the same information like a 1080p monitor, just with increased pixel density.

    Afaik if you plug an iPad Pro with Logic into a 4k monitor and use the extended monitor stuff you still get the large inefficient iPad UI. The same would happen with an iPad window inside the VP.

    Has anyone here tried hooking up or streaming a session of Logic Pro on iPad to a 4K monitor?

    That's one of the videos I've found before I made my decision against such a setup:

    I've also asked a user who owned an iPad Air 5 about the options he had when connected to an external display and he confirmed that it looked like in the video.

    The guy In the video uses a Huawei Mateview 4k monitor.

    This must be a an older video because Logic Pro for iPad absolutely scales to fill the 4k display. It had a stage manager update which however means you have to activate stage manager to get it and not use mirroring.

    I use Logic Pro on a 43 inch 4k monitor and it is actually more screen efficient than Logic Pro desktop. version. Once they add Flex Pitch and sampler UI the desktop version is cooked.

    That video is from October '23, not so old. The scaling to the sides depends on the aspect ratio I think, only 16:9 scales to the edges. That Huawei Monitor has a 3:2 aspect ratio.

    At what resolution have you set your 43 inch 4k monitor in MacOS?

  • swarmboyswarmboy


    I mean it's not the same as desktop logic, but this is my little iPad corner, and with "more space" option selected on iPad Pro M1 11 it's totally usable. whether it would be, floating in the void in front of my face, who knows....

  • realdaweirealdawei

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @realdawei said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @cyberheater said:
    I wonder what iPad version of Logic Pro in the headset would be like?

    Should theoretically scale up to the virtual 4K display, so that might be interesting.

    If it wouldn't be just a blown up tablet view that doesn't give you much more information.

    Here's an article. Says the AVP can be mirrored on a real-world monitor at 720p, but then it says you can also mirror to the in-headset virtual monitor at 4K. I'm not sure how much of this is accurate.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/19/vision-pro-airplay-content/

    They'd need to implement a mode in Logic that takes advantage of the higher screen resolution, similar to the OS scale function in MacOS where you can adjust the amount of information on screen. If you use normal scaling a 4k monitor still provides the same information like a 1080p monitor, just with increased pixel density.

    Afaik if you plug an iPad Pro with Logic into a 4k monitor and use the extended monitor stuff you still get the large inefficient iPad UI. The same would happen with an iPad window inside the VP.

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @cyberheater said:
    I wonder what iPad version of Logic Pro in the headset would be like?

    Should theoretically scale up to the virtual 4K display, so that might be interesting.

    If it wouldn't be just a blown up tablet view that doesn't give you much more information.

    Here's an article. Says the AVP can be mirrored on a real-world monitor at 720p, but then it says you can also mirror to the in-headset virtual monitor at 4K. I'm not sure how much of this is accurate.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/19/vision-pro-airplay-content/

    They'd need to implement a mode in Logic that takes advantage of the higher screen resolution, similar to the OS scale function in MacOS where you can adjust the amount of information on screen. If you use normal scaling a 4k monitor still provides the same information like a 1080p monitor, just with increased pixel density.

    Afaik if you plug an iPad Pro with Logic into a 4k monitor and use the extended monitor stuff you still get the large inefficient iPad UI. The same would happen with an iPad window inside the VP.

    Has anyone here tried hooking up or streaming a session of Logic Pro on iPad to a 4K monitor?

    That's one of the videos I've found before I made my decision against such a setup:

    I've also asked a user who owned an iPad Air 5 about the options he had when connected to an external display and he confirmed that it looked like in the video.

    The guy In the video uses a Huawei Mateview 4k monitor.

    This must be a an older video because Logic Pro for iPad absolutely scales to fill the 4k display. It had a stage manager update which however means you have to activate stage manager to get it and not use mirroring.

    I use Logic Pro on a 43 inch 4k monitor and it is actually more screen efficient than Logic Pro desktop. version. Once they add Flex Pitch and sampler UI the desktop version is cooked.

    That video is from October '23, not so old. The scaling to the sides depends on the aspect ratio I think, only 16:9 scales to the edges. That Huawei Monitor has a 3:2 aspect ratio.

    At what resolution have you set your 43 inch 4k monitor in MacOS?

    The stage manager update for Logic Pro 1.1 came out after that either late nov or early dec ‘23. So relatively speaking that video could be considered old. Logic Pro is definitely not constrained to iPad dimensions. However disappointingly Final Cut Pro for iPad still is

  • kirmesteggnokirmesteggno
    edited February 2

    @swarmboy said:

    I mean it's not the same as desktop logic, but this is my little iPad corner, and with "more space" option selected on iPad Pro M1 11 it's totally usable. whether it would be, floating in the void in front of my face, who knows....

    Looks good to me, much better than expected! Is it a 1440p or 4k monitor?

  • kirmesteggnokirmesteggno
    edited February 2

    @realdawei said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @realdawei said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @cyberheater said:
    I wonder what iPad version of Logic Pro in the headset would be like?

    Should theoretically scale up to the virtual 4K display, so that might be interesting.

    If it wouldn't be just a blown up tablet view that doesn't give you much more information.

    Here's an article. Says the AVP can be mirrored on a real-world monitor at 720p, but then it says you can also mirror to the in-headset virtual monitor at 4K. I'm not sure how much of this is accurate.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/19/vision-pro-airplay-content/

    They'd need to implement a mode in Logic that takes advantage of the higher screen resolution, similar to the OS scale function in MacOS where you can adjust the amount of information on screen. If you use normal scaling a 4k monitor still provides the same information like a 1080p monitor, just with increased pixel density.

    Afaik if you plug an iPad Pro with Logic into a 4k monitor and use the extended monitor stuff you still get the large inefficient iPad UI. The same would happen with an iPad window inside the VP.

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @NeuM said:

    @cyberheater said:
    I wonder what iPad version of Logic Pro in the headset would be like?

    Should theoretically scale up to the virtual 4K display, so that might be interesting.

    If it wouldn't be just a blown up tablet view that doesn't give you much more information.

    Here's an article. Says the AVP can be mirrored on a real-world monitor at 720p, but then it says you can also mirror to the in-headset virtual monitor at 4K. I'm not sure how much of this is accurate.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/19/vision-pro-airplay-content/

    They'd need to implement a mode in Logic that takes advantage of the higher screen resolution, similar to the OS scale function in MacOS where you can adjust the amount of information on screen. If you use normal scaling a 4k monitor still provides the same information like a 1080p monitor, just with increased pixel density.

    Afaik if you plug an iPad Pro with Logic into a 4k monitor and use the extended monitor stuff you still get the large inefficient iPad UI. The same would happen with an iPad window inside the VP.

    Has anyone here tried hooking up or streaming a session of Logic Pro on iPad to a 4K monitor?

    That's one of the videos I've found before I made my decision against such a setup:

    I've also asked a user who owned an iPad Air 5 about the options he had when connected to an external display and he confirmed that it looked like in the video.

    The guy In the video uses a Huawei Mateview 4k monitor.

    This must be a an older video because Logic Pro for iPad absolutely scales to fill the 4k display. It had a stage manager update which however means you have to activate stage manager to get it and not use mirroring.

    I use Logic Pro on a 43 inch 4k monitor and it is actually more screen efficient than Logic Pro desktop. version. Once they add Flex Pitch and sampler UI the desktop version is cooked.

    That video is from October '23, not so old. The scaling to the sides depends on the aspect ratio I think, only 16:9 scales to the edges. That Huawei Monitor has a 3:2 aspect ratio.

    At what resolution have you set your 43 inch 4k monitor in MacOS?

    The stage manager update for Logic Pro 1.1 came out after that either late nov or early dec ‘23. So relatively speaking that video could be considered old. Logic Pro is definitely not constrained to iPad dimensions. However disappointingly Final Cut Pro for iPad still is

    Allright, the setup from swarmboy looks good. There are no up to date reviews on YT about how this all works and looks with Logic and stage manager/extended display though which probably costs the platform users. IOS reviewers what are you doing?

  • swarmboyswarmboy

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @swarmboy said:

    I mean it's not the same as desktop logic, but this is my little iPad corner, and with "more space" option selected on iPad Pro M1 11 it's totally usable. whether it would be, floating in the void in front of my face, who knows....

    Looks good to me, much better than expected! Is it a 1440p or 4k monitor?

    It’s a 4K monitor but the monitor says it’s running at 1440p - the only setting I’m able to change on the displays/brightness on the iPad settings is between “larger text” and “default” - this is default. Larger text doesn’t change the input to the monitor (stays at 1440p) but the window is noticeably less spacious / text larger

  • Sam23Sam23

    https://apps.apple.com/at/app/animoog-galaxy/id6471704891

  • Sam23Sam23
    edited February 2


  • Sam23Sam23

    Animoog Galaxy for Apple Vision Pro: Key Features
    https://www.moogmusic.com/news/introducing-animoog-galaxy

  • cuscolimacuscolima

    @Sam23 said:
    https://apps.apple.com/at/app/animoog-galaxy/id6471704891

    Sensitivity looks excellent! 😂

  • kirmesteggnokirmesteggno

    @swarmboy said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @swarmboy said:

    I mean it's not the same as desktop logic, but this is my little iPad corner, and with "more space" option selected on iPad Pro M1 11 it's totally usable. whether it would be, floating in the void in front of my face, who knows....

    Looks good to me, much better than expected! Is it a 1440p or 4k monitor?

    It’s a 4K monitor but the monitor says it’s running at 1440p - the only setting I’m able to change on the displays/brightness on the iPad settings is between “larger text” and “default” - this is default. Larger text doesn’t change the input to the monitor (stays at 1440p) but the window is noticeably less spacious / text larger

    Interesting. What monitor model is it? If you use an iPad Air 5 then it's possible that it maxes out at 1440p @ 60hz because it doesn't have the USB-C bandwith for 4k @ 60hz.

    @Sam23 looks like the Algoriddim Djay VP interface somehow, same devs? Is Inmusik going to buy them too? 🧐

  • Sam23Sam23

    https://www.gearnews.com/moog-animoog-galaxy/

  • swarmboyswarmboy

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @swarmboy said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @swarmboy said:

    I mean it's not the same as desktop logic, but this is my little iPad corner, and with "more space" option selected on iPad Pro M1 11 it's totally usable. whether it would be, floating in the void in front of my face, who knows....

    Looks good to me, much better than expected! Is it a 1440p or 4k monitor?

    It’s a 4K monitor but the monitor says it’s running at 1440p - the only setting I’m able to change on the displays/brightness on the iPad settings is between “larger text” and “default” - this is default. Larger text doesn’t change the input to the monitor (stays at 1440p) but the window is noticeably less spacious / text larger

    Interesting. What monitor model is it? If you use an iPad Air 5 then it's possible that it maxes out at 1440p @ 60hz because it doesn't have the USB-C bandwith for 4k @ 60hz.

    @Sam23 looks like the Algoriddim Djay VP interface somehow, same devs? Is Inmusik going to buy them too? 🧐


    It's this Samsung:
    https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/uhd-and-wqhd/32-sr75-4k-uhd-space-monitor-ls32r750uenxza/

    and if I connect directly from the iPad usb to display port on the monitor rather than via a hub I get a "more space" option in settings which seems to run at 4k (the monitor says the input is 4k, anyway)

  • NeuMNeuM

    @swarmboy said:

    I mean it's not the same as desktop logic, but this is my little iPad corner, and with "more space" option selected on iPad Pro M1 11 it's totally usable. whether it would be, floating in the void in front of my face, who knows....

    Very cool. So not quite the 'complete disaster' others seem to suggest it was. ;)

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Sam23 said:

    Another first for Moog! :)

  • Danny_MammyDanny_Mammy
    edited February 2

    @NeuM said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    remember when the iPod came out? everyone wanted one, iPhone comes out and everyone wanted one, not the same with the apple googles.

    Do you have a spare $3,500 laying around? But seriously, this is clearly a product for early adopters and I'm sure they'll sell every single unit they make.

    well, i do feel it not just about the high price. Its about a must have product and apple in the past have made must have products like the iPhone where most people wanted one straight from the get-go.

    here i don't see that for the apple vision pro, its not clear what this product gives you at all. it lacks a desirability. that's a big big problem for apple.

    Steve jobs made an iPhone when it made sense to make one. not sure at all if the apple goggles make sense currently.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Danny_Mammy said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    remember when the iPod came out? everyone wanted one, iPhone comes out and everyone wanted one, not the same with the apple googles.

    Do you have a spare $3,500 laying around? But seriously, this is clearly a product for early adopters and I'm sure they'll sell every single unit they make.

    well, i do feel it not just about the high price. Its about a must have product and apple in the past have made must have products like the iPhone where most people wanted one straight from the get-go.

    here i don't see that for the apple vision pro, its not clear what this product gives you at all. it lacks a desirability. that's a big big problem for apple.

    Steve jobs made an iPhone when it made sense to make one. not sure at all if the apple goggles make sense currently.

    Did you actually watch any of the review videos? The people using AVP generally seem to acknowledge it is a remarkably engineered and designed product. If it doesn't have anything of interest to you, that's OK.

  • Danny_MammyDanny_Mammy

    @NeuM said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    remember when the iPod came out? everyone wanted one, iPhone comes out and everyone wanted one, not the same with the apple googles.

    Do you have a spare $3,500 laying around? But seriously, this is clearly a product for early adopters and I'm sure they'll sell every single unit they make.

    well, i do feel it not just about the high price. Its about a must have product and apple in the past have made must have products like the iPhone where most people wanted one straight from the get-go.

    here i don't see that for the apple vision pro, its not clear what this product gives you at all. it lacks a desirability. that's a big big problem for apple.

    Steve jobs made an iPhone when it made sense to make one. not sure at all if the apple goggles make sense currently.

    Did you actually watch any of the review videos? The people using AVP generally seem to acknowledge it is a remarkably engineered and designed product. If it doesn't have anything of interest to you, that's OK.

    when the iPhone was released literally everyone wanted one, this aint nowhere near that. Apple stock still going down.

  • abfabf

    Yeah! This is fantastic. If there's one iOS synth that is perfect for Vision Pro, Animoog is it.
    I'm saving for Vision Pro 3 or 4 but I have to save for two of them!! :# My wife wants a Vision Pro as well. A lot of people are excited about this technology.

  • abfabf
    edited February 2

    @abf said:
    Yeah! This is fantastic. If there's one iOS synth that is perfect for Vision Pro, Animoog is it.
    I'm saving for Vision Pro 3 or 4 but I have to save for two of them!! :# My wife wants a Vision Pro as well. A lot of people are excited about this technology.

    edit To point out also how useful this technology could be for people with disabilities.

    huh messed up posting...

  • KrupaKrupa

    Nice, I knew those would happen:

    https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/meta-quest-headsets-now-support-spatial-video-playback-ahead-of-vision-pro-launch/

    Time to get rolling with my ‘15

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