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New AudioKit app Nerd Synth

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  • AnalogMatthewAnalogMatthew
    edited April 7

    @Samu said:

    @AnalogMatthew said:

    On my A1, I only use the wave shaping to emulate PWM. Instead of simulating PWM using "shaping" like the hardware, I added real Pulse Width Oscillators to Nerd Synth.

    That function (OSC Control) on the A1 can also do 2OP FM when used with say the Envelope or LFO in one-shot or mode (fastish regular LFO for WubWub Basses).

    The OSC config sets the modulation index and Osc Control sets the FM Amount (This is why I got surprised when it was 'downgraded' to a 'pitch envelope').

    But hey, we've already got plenty of apps that can do 2OP FM already so no worries :sunglasses:

    Thanks for sparking a conversation about the A1’s OSC Control knob. It’s really cool how you’ve dug into the manual.

    And it sets me up to mention some neat features this app can do, that the hardware can't touch:

    My fellow A1 owners, correct me if I'm wrong – But you can't morph (pwm), have an FM osc, add noise, detune the 2nd osc and all that jazz simultaneously, right?

    You have to pick only one architecture. I'm not talking about not having knob-per-function control, I'm talking about the sound engine only lets you do one at a time.

    So, here's the deal: the hardware either gives you a single PWM type oscillator (morphing) OR rock a standard dual oscillator setup (think detuned squares) OR have an FM osc OR a regular oscillator with some noise, etc. But mixing them up? Nope.

    The app lets you have two independent oscillators, noise, fm pitch envelope, and pwm all at the same time. The A1 really highlights its pitch envelope (it's the hardware default for the osc mod knobs, and I believe it's the only osc config you can use simultaneous with other configs, but I could be wrong?)

    And that gives me another idea...
    The synth one FM Operator osc is modeled after the Nord Lead 3. If the app does well, maybe I can add it to Nerd Synth, and it' would be practically be a super N Lead of everyone's dreams 🤯

  • AnalogMatthewAnalogMatthew
    edited April 7

    No aftertouch, CC mapping is the same as King of Digital and other recent apps.
    I'd like to add a more robust CC mapping and even aftertouch someday. But honestly please don't buy the app with that hope, because at this point, no one knows what the future holds for devs (with AI, Headsets, and all that jazz)

  • AnalogMatthewAnalogMatthew
    edited April 7

    @monch1962 said:
    @AnalogMatthew will Nerd have MPE support?

    I'm going to buy it anyway as soon as it gets released, but it would be a really nice feature to have and would save me spinning up multiple instances and using a Mozaic script to simulate MPE...

    MPE would be really nice. And I do think it's the future of music instruments. But, sorry not on this app on release. I can't guarantee what will happen in the future. Maybe?

  • NeuMNeuM

    @AnalogMatthew said:

    @Samu said:

    @AnalogMatthew said:

    On my A1, I only use the wave shaping to emulate PWM. Instead of simulating PWM using "shaping" like the hardware, I added real Pulse Width Oscillators to Nerd Synth.

    That function (OSC Control) on the A1 can also do 2OP FM when used with say the Envelope or LFO in one-shot or mode (fastish regular LFO for WubWub Basses).

    The OSC config sets the modulation index and Osc Control sets the FM Amount (This is why I got surprised when it was 'downgraded' to a 'pitch envelope').

    But hey, we've already got plenty of apps that can do 2OP FM already so no worries :sunglasses:

    Thanks for sparking a conversation about the A1’s OSC Control knob. It’s really cool how you’ve dug into the manual.

    And it sets me up to shout out some incredible features this app can do that the actual hardware can't touch.

    My fellow A1 owners, correct me if I'm wrong – But you can't morph (pwm), add simple FM modulation to osc (it's not NL2 style), add noise, detune the 2nd osc and all that jazz simultaneously, right?

    You have to pick only one architecture. I'm not talking about not having knob-per-function control, I'm talking about the sound engine only lets you do one at a time.

    So, here's the deal: the hardware either gives you a single PWM type oscillator (morphing) OR rocking a standard dual oscillator setup (think detuned squares vibe) OR adding FM modulation OR a regular oscillator with some noise, OR a regular oscillator with some pitch envelope action. But mixing them up? Nope.

    The app lets you have two independent oscillators, noise, fm pitch envelope, and pwm all at the same time.

    And that gives me another idea...
    The synth one FM Operator osc is modeled after the Nord Lead 3. If the app does well, I can add it to Nerd Synth, and it' would be practically be a super N Lead of everyone's dreams 🤯

    You could offer the Super Nerd option as an IAP. ;)

  • AnalogMatthewAnalogMatthew
    edited April 7

    @NeuM said:
    You could offer the Super Nerd option as an IAP. ;)

    bwahahaha
    comes with a scientific calculator 🤣

  • NeuMNeuM

    @AnalogMatthew said:

    @NeuM said:
    You could offer the Super Nerd option as an IAP. ;)

    bwahahaha
    comes with a scientific calculator 🤣

    😂

  • AnalogMatthewAnalogMatthew

    @Samu said:
    The OSC config sets the modulation index and Osc Control sets the FM Amount (This is why I got surprised when it was 'downgraded' to a 'pitch envelope').

    A quick clarification for those not familiar with the hardware A1:

    (1) The "Osc Control" & "ModEnv Amt" knobs on the hardware do surprisingly default to a FM Pitch Envelope.
    "Osc Control" is FM Mod Pitch & "ModEnv Amt" is the FM Mod Dive time

    (2) The "Osc Config" knob sets your architecture configuration choice (Pitch Dive Mode, Detune Mode, Osc + Noise mode, Wave Shape mode (basically PWM), etc)

    (3) If you change the "Osc Config", the "Osc Control" and "ModEnv Amt" functionality change accordingly. For example with an "Osc Config" of Detune, the "Osc Control" knob will set the 2nd oscillator's semi-tones (the same as the "Tune" knob in Nerd Synth under Osc 2), while the "ModEnv Amt" continues to control FM Dive Time. Nord seems to really love the FM Pitch Dive on the A1, so I made it prominent in the app as well. Something else that may surprise people, you have to scroll through 37 (!) options to get to the FM osc mode on the A1. I just counted, ha. Once you get to that section, "Osc Config" mysteriously changes to controlling the FM Semitones, "Osc Control" appears to be the Mod Index, and "ModEnv Amt" seems to be the "FM Amt".

    /end NERDy synth stuff :D

    You all don't have to worry about all this, because I've added appropriately labeled knobs to the app. And thanks to @samu for inspiring me to go back and see what the A1 is really doing.

    My hot take? If you're trying to decide between a used NL2X or a new A1? I would personally get the NL2X. And for $5 more, you can get most of the sounds you're missing from the A1, and have the perfect controller for the App.

  • gsm909gsm909

    Come on Apple. Get the finger out..

  • AtticusLAtticusL

    Are we there yet?

  • NoncompliantBryantNoncompliantBryant

    All this talk of the specs has me chomping at the bit. Got a new iTunes card ready....

  • catherdercatherder

    @AnalogMatthew said:

    @NeuM said:
    You could offer the Super Nerd option as an IAP. ;)

    bwahahaha
    comes with a scientific calculator 🤣

    Of course RPN

  • gsm909gsm909

    @analog_matt , any feedback from Apple regarding the delay ?

  • Djw66Djw66

    Is there a release date for this and the AUV3 version of Synth one which I have seen as coming soon?

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited April 8

    @gsm909 said:
    @analog_matt , any feedback from Apple regarding the delay ?

    I don't think Apple generally gives feedback like this. If it's in review, it's in a waiting period.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Djw66 said:
    Is there a release date for this and the AUV3 version of Synth one which I have seen as coming soon?

    Where did you see SynthOne AUv3 coming soon?

  • Djw66Djw66
    edited April 8

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Djw66 said:
    Is there a release date for this and the AUV3 version of Synth one which I have seen as coming soon?

    Where did you see SynthOne AUv3 coming soon?

    At the bottom of page just before videos https://audiokitpro.com/synth/

  • NeuMNeuM

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @NeuM said:

    That page has said coming soon since at least 2021 and maybe since its release.

  • AnalogMatthewAnalogMatthew

    A beta tester sent me this, excited how they were able to sound like it – Pretty cool how close this video sounds to the app if you stack instances.

    As a disclaimer, this app is only one layer. So, you'll need to have 3 or 4 running in AUM to get this kind of sound. It's best to start with basic sounds and build them up to achieve some of these stacks

  • AnalogMatthewAnalogMatthew

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    That page has said coming soon since at least 2021 and maybe since its release.

    That page has maybe said "coming soon" since 1921. :D

  • SamuSamu

    @AnalogMatthew said:

    A beta tester sent me this, excited how they were able to sound like it – Pretty cool how close this video sounds to the app if you stack instances.

    As a disclaimer, this app is only one layer. So, you'll need to have 3 or 4 running in AUM to get this kind of sound. It's best to start with basic sounds and build them up to achieve some of these stacks

    Cool :)

    This is what can be done with super fast LFOs :sunglasses:

  • AnalogMatthewAnalogMatthew

    @Samu said:

    This is what can be done with super fast LFOs :sunglasses:

    Oh yeah! That pitch dive effect at 25 seconds can be done with an LFO... but it's even more fun to use the app's touch pads 🫢

  • AnalogMatthewAnalogMatthew

    Version 1.1 is done before version 1 is even available

    So, tell me more about these "alternative app stores"? 😂

  • SamuSamu

    @AnalogMatthew said:

    So, tell me more about these "alternative app stores"? 😂

    You'd have to move to Europe for starters :sunglasses:

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    Been checking the store everyday since @thesoundtestroom video dropped…

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @AnalogMatthew said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    That page has said coming soon since at least 2021 and maybe since its release.

    That page has maybe said "coming soon" since 1921. :D

    Love the self deprecating humor.. it shows a certain humility, and understanding. Cheers.

  • wimwim
    edited April 9

    There has to be something wrong here - some missed step or communication. Apple just doesn't let apps sit around in limbo this long.

  • Fear2StopFear2Stop

    I saw all these missed replies since my last visit and I got happy and thought this was released…alas… 🤣

  • DavDav

    Demos sounds great. Im sure youll get a big following for this synth. The Nerd herd.

    Looking forward to the release.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @wim said:
    There has to be something wrong here - some missed step or communication. Apple just doesn't let apps sit around in limbo this long.

    Yea, I know… weird. But should be soon.

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