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One Synth, One loop, One FX suite: The Blamsoft Free App Challenge

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  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    OK I'm posting my work in progress as I make stuff so slowly that it will probably never get finished. I'm trying some lead lines and vocal bits that's why the track is so basic so far. I have a habit of getting bored and sidetracked with other stuff though, so hey....at least I attempted to start something :p

    Sounds good so far. :)

    I was surprised how much youtube sucks life out of even a basic track. No wonder artists pay people to master a track to sound good on different media.

    That's one of a couple reasons I didn't want to use Youtube to share the video. 😂 It's fine for a demo, like from an OP-1 Field, but for the final product it sucks. 😂

    Yeah, I will eventually stumble on a decent hook and mold the track into something, but the part I always find more difficult is the sculpting with EQ and generally spiffing up a mix so it breathes properly. Besides as I get older my hearing is getting so muffled.

    Anyhow, I think I will just fail the test and go use some more fun apps that weren't on the list lol.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    OK I'm posting my work in progress as I make stuff so slowly that it will probably never get finished. I'm trying some lead lines and vocal bits that's why the track is so basic so far. I have a habit of getting bored and sidetracked with other stuff though, so hey....at least I attempted to start something :p

    Sounds good so far. :)

    I was surprised how much youtube sucks life out of even a basic track. No wonder artists pay people to master a track to sound good on different media.

    That's one of a couple reasons I didn't want to use Youtube to share the video. 😂 It's fine for a demo, like from an OP-1 Field, but for the final product it sucks. 😂

    Yeah, I will eventually stumble on a decent hook and mold the track into something, but the part I always find more difficult is the sculpting with EQ and generally spiffing up a mix so it breathes properly. Besides as I get older my hearing is getting so muffled.

    Anyhow, I think I will just fail the test and go use some more fun apps that weren't on the list lol.

    Awwww. Well for what it's worth, I think you did a fine job with the audio sketch. :)

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    OK I'm posting my work in progress as I make stuff so slowly that it will probably never get finished. I'm trying some lead lines and vocal bits that's why the track is so basic so far. I have a habit of getting bored and sidetracked with other stuff though, so hey....at least I attempted to start something :p

    Sounds good so far. :)

    I was surprised how much youtube sucks life out of even a basic track. No wonder artists pay people to master a track to sound good on different media.

    That's one of a couple reasons I didn't want to use Youtube to share the video. 😂 It's fine for a demo, like from an OP-1 Field, but for the final product it sucks. 😂

    Yeah, I will eventually stumble on a decent hook and mold the track into something, but the part I always find more difficult is the sculpting with EQ and generally spiffing up a mix so it breathes properly. Besides as I get older my hearing is getting so muffled.

    Anyhow, I think I will just fail the test and go use some more fun apps that weren't on the list lol.

    Awwww. Well for what it's worth, I think you did a fine job with the audio sketch. :)

    Too kind. I think those that have posted have added to the original thread though. We all have made different creative choices from a borrowed loop and synth presets. It definitely is more to do with the creators than the tools we use.

  • edited May 19

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    Gave it a shot and made a hypnotic Techno thing: https://streamable.com/d01wdc

    I've tried to create all the drums from the short amen break benginning, then I've used 2 instances of Viking synth for the bleeps and ambience. Took me about an hour or so.

    Found it quite challenging to get by without a proper delay, because those in the reverb and chorus are tricky to dial in right. The techno kick and rumble sounds kinda weird like the drums in geenral without a proper drum machine 😵‍💫

    Extra plugins used are knock clipper and EQ560 to carve out a kick from the amen sample, and nolimits and magic deatheye on the master, and neon to seuqnece the bleeps. I might try to record a better performance of 3 minutes, the first one was 4 minutes and too long because I wanted to show all the layers..

    Like it. Can't say I was brave enough to stick to the Balm apps, I don't think I've started any track of late without Other Dessert Cities lol and my brain refused to try this time!

    It's missing some toms or some fake bassline. Probably gonna try to duplicate the kick layer to fill that gap.

    Your track reminded of the early Autechre with the filter movement, and then some 80s italian horror flick with the evil bassline.

    Other Desert Cities is also my go to usually, absolute banger of a plugin. The Blamsoft reverb chorus and their embedded delays worked well on the ambience though, it's just a bleep from the hook fed into a layer and chain of reverb, chorus and overdrive with the time and mix dials all cranked up.

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    I was surprised how much youtube sucks life out of even a basic track. No wonder artists pay people to master a track to sound good on different media.

    I think key is to ignore the -14 lufs advice and try to make it as loud as the track can support sonically, no matter where it's uploaded to. The platforms will just do their thing.

    Btw, Dubz.co is a hoster I've found with 200mb (enough for a 5min 720p export from Photos) and unlimited days. Streamable, the one I've used stores it only for 90 days with a fee account.

  • @kirmesteggno

    Are you going to continue with your track out side of the 3 minute limited app thing? Seems to me its the start of a much longer piece of music. A 3 minute cutoff almost seems a crime with that style of music!

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:
    @kirmesteggno

    Are you going to continue with your track out side of the 3 minute limited app thing? Seems to me its the start of a much longer piece of music. A 3 minute cutoff almost seems a crime with that style of music!

    Yeah the track ended before it really started.

    This style of Techno benefits from a lot of different drum and percussion sounds which enter and leave and is also meant to be played in DJ sets where due to the atonal sound other tracks can be mixed in as layers too.

    The approach in the video is basically just a hack to fake the most basic drum elements. I would never do it like that under normal circumstances and use at least a 909 core drum set, process them and then extract more layers from there. I've basically painted myself into a corner with the challenge rules and rather switch to my actual projects and track prototypes I'm working on where I limit myself on my own terms. If I redo the drums it's basically like starting from scratch again.

    If you're interested in this style of Techno then this is a great set. There are quite a few good DJs and producers each with their own twist.

  • @kirmesteggno said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    @kirmesteggno

    Are you going to continue with your track out side of the 3 minute limited app thing? Seems to me its the start of a much longer piece of music. A 3 minute cutoff almost seems a crime with that style of music!

    Yeah the track ended before it really started.

    This style of Techno benefits from a lot of different drum and percussion sounds which enter and leave and is also meant to be played in DJ sets where due to the atonal sound other tracks can be mixed in as layers too.

    The approach in the video is basically just a hack to fake the most basic drum elements. I would never do it like that under normal circumstances and use at least a 909 core drum set, process them and then extract more layers from there. I've basically painted myself into a corner with the challenge rules and rather switch to my actual projects and track prototypes I'm working on where I limit myself on my own terms. If I redo the drums it's basically like starting from scratch again.

    If you're interested in this style of Techno then this is a great set. There are quite a few good DJs and producers each with their own twist.

    Thanks. Will take a listen when the next day dawns. Always interested in learning about something new to myself musically.

  • Viking seems broken. There are no presets.

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Viking seems broken. There are no presets.

    Your host likely supports presets. That's what I'm using, and this challenge requires making your own Viking children anyway ;)

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    Viking seems broken. There are no presets.

    I found them in logic, think it was either under presets or patches in the daw

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Viking seems broken. There are no presets.

    Yep most likely to do with whatever host you are using. I have presets in EG Nodes.

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Viking seems broken. There are no presets.

    Haven't seen any in Drambo either.

  • @kirmesteggno said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Viking seems broken. There are no presets.

    Haven't seen any in Drambo either.

    Yep I can't see them in Drambo, but can in EG Nodes, Cubasis 3 and AUM

  • @kirmesteggno said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Viking seems broken. There are no presets.

    Haven't seen any in Drambo either.

    Yup. Drambo here too. At least state saving works.
    But I still think it’s broken. There are no sine waves. Or do I have to combine two shapes to make a sine? 😂 Triangle sounds closest.

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Viking seems broken. There are no presets.

    Haven't seen any in Drambo either.

    Yup. Drambo here too. At least state saving works.
    But I still think it’s broken. There are no sine waves. Or do I have to combine two shapes to make a sine? 😂 Triangle sounds closest.

    It's definitely got its quirks for sure. Takes me back to the days when AuV3s were just coming out and all sorts of weird happenings ensued lol

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Viking seems broken. There are no presets.

    Haven't seen any in Drambo either.

    Yup. Drambo here too. At least state saving works.
    But I still think it’s broken. There are no sine waves. Or do I have to combine two shapes to make a sine? 😂 Triangle sounds closest.

    Yeah there appears to be no sine waves. I also didn't bother with presets and created all my synth sounds from scratch, lol. (There are times I like presets, and then there are times I'd rather roll my own sounds to obtain the exact sounds I hear in my head.)

  • Will be surprised if no one uses Loopy Pro as a host for this!

  • edited May 19

    my old school goa entry :-) spend with it just 2 hours but i am not willing to sacrifice more, it’s 00:54 and i have to wake up at 05:00 😬

    • kick made using Viking, sampled and loaded to Slate.. boosted sub using blamsoft filter in HP mode
    • rest of drums made from amen break (chopped to individual hits, a bit processed)
    • all other sounds of course Viking
    • all equalisation done only using blamsoft filter hp/lp :-)

    Fun fact: 303 was tweaked in realtime by my fat finger, cause Viking automation is somehow broken in NS2 :-))

    Cheated a bit, used few NS2 build in plugs:

    • limiter, compressor, 1 instance of delay!! (it is simply impossible to make goa without delay :-))

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Viking seems broken. There are no presets.

    Haven't seen any in Drambo either.

    Yup. Drambo here too. At least state saving works.
    But I still think it’s broken. There are no sine waves. Or do I have to combine two shapes to make a sine? 😂 Triangle sounds closest.

    I've only spend 10 minutes with it with the sequencer already running and landed somewhere between a square and triangle for the first OSC I guess 😅

    Possible that no sines is the twist for this plugin.

  • @dendy said:
    my old school goa entry :-) spend with it just 2 hours but i am not willing to sacrifice more, it’s 00:54 and i have to wake up at 05:00 😬

    • kick made using Viking, sampled and loaded to Slate.. boosted sub using blamsoft filter in HP mode
    • rest of drums made from amen break (chopped to individual hits, a bit processed)
    • all other sounds of course Viking
    • all equalisation done only using blamsoft filter hp/lp :-)

    Fun fact: 303 was tweaked in realtime by my fat finger, cause Viking automation is somehow broken in NS2 :-))

    Cheated a bit, used few NS2 build in plugs:

    • limiter, compressor, 1 instance of delay!! (it is simply impossible to make goa without delay :-))

    That nearly woke my wife up lol. Only 2 hours, you lot create so quickly! Sleep well!

  • Ooooo @dendy

    Right at 2:32 resonated all the right brain frequencies. Pure Ecstasy. Sleep well.

  • I’d be up for it, but I think it’d be a lot more interesting if the restrictions were a little tighter.

    Being allowed external instruments and etc., leaves the door wide open doesn’t it?

  • edited May 20

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    I’d be up for it, but I think it’d be a lot more interesting if the restrictions were a little tighter.

    Being allowed external instruments and etc., leaves the door wide open doesn’t it?

    Try building your project with no effects. ;)

  • @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    I’d be up for it, but I think it’d be a lot more interesting if the restrictions were a little tighter.

    Being allowed external instruments and etc., leaves the door wide open doesn’t it?

    Try building your project with no effects. ;)

    Exactly what NeuM said Edward. Try it with no effects other than Blamsoft effects and report back if you can manage to avoid mud in the mix. 😅 (I meant the above in a lighthearted fashion.)

    As I stated above, I am very persnickety about what I put out online for others to consume. If it sounds rubbish, it is rubbish. No amount of mastering can fix a muddy mix. As the old adage goes - "you can't polish a turd".

    This is why I decided to use a couple of NS2's EQs to clean things up, as well as a little sidechain compression on the bass to duck it out of the way of the microsampled Amen Break drums. As well as NS2's limiter to ensure the mix didn't surpass -1dB peak while remaining roughly around -14LuFS.


    This little challenge helped me find a hidden gem - that Resampler Bitcrusher. I like it better than BitMaestro and BitJuggler. I know, heresy! 😂 The reverb also has an interesting specific sonic quality to it. I wouldn't use it for Ambient or as an allrounder, but I can see myself using that reverb for rougher leads and rougher basses. It has a place in my sonic toolbelt.

    Viking Synth is also a hidden gem. I don't care much for the chorus or overdrive. Didn't try the filter. But shit, I may give this challenge another go before the deadline and do so in NS2.

    God I missed NS2. 😅 I prefer FLSM, but NS2 is still amazing.

  • I like the atmosphere you’ve created @kirmesteggno and how that one lower layer blends nicely with the kick that slowly comes in.

  • I like your branding @Svetlovska , nice and cringe. Hauntingly beautiful as usual!

  • A nice garage sound/feel to it @jwmmakerofmusic

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    A nice garage sound/feel to it @jwmmakerofmusic

    Thanks mate. :) I love Garage music.

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Viking seems broken. There are no presets.

    Haven't seen any in Drambo either.

    Yup. Drambo here too. At least state saving works.
    But I still think it’s broken. There are no sine waves. Or do I have to combine two shapes to make a sine? 😂 Triangle sounds closest.

    A lot of classic subtractive synths don’t have sine waves (as they aren’t terribly useful as audio sources in a substractive synth ). A triangle wave is pretty close and can be made closer with filtering.

    A sine is only the fundamental frequency, with no additional harmonics. So, you can’t create a sine wave by combining other waveforms. (Mathematically, you could do it with the right waveforms with the right phase relationship but no one would do that except as a fun math exercise)

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Viking seems broken. There are no presets.

    Haven't seen any in Drambo either.

    Yup. Drambo here too. At least state saving works.
    But I still think it’s broken. There are no sine waves. Or do I have to combine two shapes to make a sine? 😂 Triangle sounds closest.

    A lot of classic subtractive synths don’t have sine waves (as they aren’t terribly useful as audio sources in a substractive synth ). A triangle wave is pretty close and can be made closer with filtering.

    A sine is only the fundamental frequency, with no additional harmonics. So, you can’t create a sine wave by combining other waveforms. (Mathematically, you could do it with the right waveforms with the right phase relationship but no one would do that except as a fun math exercise)

    Math? Fun? I had no idea those two words could be juxtaposed next to one another unironically. 😂 (I'm joking.)

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