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One Synth, One loop, One FX suite: The Blamsoft Free App Challenge

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  • edited May 2024

    @rezidue
    I haven’t been around in a while but I had to log in and say how much I love this!

    glad to bring you back :-)

    @bygjohn
    You have just been responsible for an unseemly display of dad dancing! Luckily, in my kitchen, so no witnesses…

    We are dads, we survived little kids, we even survived pregnancy of our wives which is most dangerous predatory phase of their existence - so we are allowed to do anything .. even dance so hard that out belly jumps like kangaroo 🤣😂

    @klownshed
    The Amen samples sound nothing like the orginals, you've managed to coax very different sounds out of the loop.

    surprisingly this is really just about some pitch shifting and equalising (using blam soft filter).. this loop is spectrally very rich, so just filtering out some stuff and pitching it results to very different sounds

  • So, any midi tools are fine? Just checking ☺

  • Probably about half done now….what was the date for completion again…..and what year? Lol

  • @NoncompliantBryant said:
    So, any midi tools are fine? Just checking ☺

    Hope so as I've used loads lol

  • @klownshed said:

    The Bass Drum and Snare were made with Viking, added to Drum Machine Designer then resampled. I was intending to make more sounds for the Viking Drum kit but I just don't have the time. Drum Machine Designer is nothing more than a UI that makes it easy to build a kit from multiple instruments/samples/tracks. Each pad is its own channel strip. There's nothing fancy going on, you can do it all manually without DMD...

    >

    The Amen break was sliced with Logic's sampler and programmed in with the pattern editor. I brought the sample in, got the break in time, then sampled it and played it back pitched down almost an octave. I chopped up the pitched down loop which I'd got more or less in time with the project.

    All the sounds and fx are 100% Blamsoft + Amen Break. Nothing else was added.

    However, as others have used compressors, EQs and Limiters, etc. I used Logic's Mastering Assistant so as not to sound shit by comparison. :-/ The non-Mastered version just sounds quieter TBH. Out of protest, obviously ;-)

    My favorite in this thread so far. Sounds like a cool and proper Darkwave track.

    @klownshed said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    Gave it a shot and made a hypnotic Techno thing: https://streamable.com/d01wdc

    I've tried to create all the drums from the short amen break benginning, then I've used 2 instances of Viking synth for the bleeps and ambience. Took me about an hour or so.

    Found it quite challenging to get by without a proper delay, because those in the reverb and chorus are tricky to dial in right. The techno kick and rumble sounds kinda weird like the drums in geenral without a proper drum machine 😵‍💫

    Extra plugins used are knock clipper and EQ560 to carve out a kick from the amen sample, and nolimits and magic deatheye on the master, and neon to seuqnece the bleeps. I might try to record a better performance of 3 minutes, the first one was 4 minutes and too long because I wanted to show all the layers..

    Very dark and ominous! The bleeps are like alarms... Good stuff.

    Thanks, creating some kind of alien vibe was the goal. I forgot to mention that I ran the Viking bleep through Drambos comb filter module which adds some metallic resonant flavor, like an actual machine. Feeding this into another layer with the long reverb also creates the atmosphere the tracks starts with.

    This feels like it needs to be much longer though...

    I'll probably redo the drums and add more tracks because I've assumed that chopping and slicing within the DAW and more than one sample of the break wasn't allowed.

    This also gives for more elements and denser drums and elements that can be added or removed on the fly which is a huge factor for this style of Techno and keeping it interesting over a longer time.

  • @bygjohn said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    Gave it a shot and made a hypnotic Techno thing: https://streamable.com/d01wdc

    I've tried to create all the drums from the short amen break benginning, then I've used 2 instances of Viking synth for the bleeps and ambience. Took me about an hour or so.

    Found it quite challenging to get by without a proper delay, because those in the reverb and chorus are tricky to dial in right. The techno kick and rumble sounds kinda weird like the drums in geenral without a proper drum machine 😵‍💫

    Extra plugins used are knock clipper and EQ560 to carve out a kick from the amen sample, and nolimits and magic deatheye on the master, and neon to seuqnece the bleeps. I might try to record a better performance of 3 minutes, the first one was 4 minutes and too long because I wanted to show all the layers..

    I’d really like to hear a longer version of this at some point. Nowt wrong with things sounding weird!

    Gonna upload a longer, better and weirder version this week!

  • Looks like I won’t be doing the video bit. Logic just can’t cope with the amount of tracks & it’s freezing Viking cos it’s a plugin. Totally stifling. Might bounce it all down to audio and move to Auria pro. Very frustrating. Grrr

  • @squeals said:
    Looks like I won’t be doing the video bit. Logic just can’t cope with the amount of tracks & it’s freezing Viking cos it’s a plugin. Totally stifling. Might bounce it all down to audio and move to Auria pro. Very frustrating. Grrr

    Is the problem that logic is automatically freezing tracks?

    You can turn off auto freeze and freeze tracks manually. Or bounce tracks to audio as you go… you can freeze pre fader to keep the fx live.

  • @klownshed said:

    @squeals said:
    Looks like I won’t be doing the video bit. Logic just can’t cope with the amount of tracks & it’s freezing Viking cos it’s a plugin. Totally stifling. Might bounce it all down to audio and move to Auria pro. Very frustrating. Grrr

    Is the problem that logic is automatically freezing tracks?

    You can turn off auto freeze and freeze tracks manually. Or bounce tracks to audio as you go… you can freeze pre fader to keep the fx live.

    Even with auto freeze off it’s just not managing. Just far too many tracks and fx.

  • Anyone got any ideas of a midi solution I can use to send the notes played of a chord to individual Viking synth in Logic or other host to record audio for Logic?

  • I tried but i just can’t get in the zone with Viking haha im just not feeling it! I’ll look forward to future challenges tho! And you all did great work with this thing

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Anyone got any ideas of a midi solution I can use to send the notes played of a chord to individual Viking synth in Logic or other host to record audio for Logic?

    Are you planning on using your Chord for an arp? Cause Viking is monophonic, unless I’m stupid, which is a possibility.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Anyone got any ideas of a midi solution I can use to send the notes played of a chord to individual Viking synth in Logic or other host to record audio for Logic?

    If you’re using multiple Vikings to do polyphony, Polythemus does the job. Caveat is that I don’t know if it works in Logic. Certainly does in AUM.

  • @reasOne said:
    I tried but i just can’t get in the zone with Viking haha im just not feeling it! I’ll look forward to future challenges tho! And you all did great work with this thing

    Yeah I'm not into mono synths for anything outside of basses, but Viking has some interesting tricks up its sleeve.

    When it comes to the OG AUv3 synths, I absolutely love Poison-202.

  • @bygjohn said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Anyone got any ideas of a midi solution I can use to send the notes played of a chord to individual Viking synth in Logic or other host to record audio for Logic?

    If you’re using multiple Vikings to do polyphony, Polythemus does the job. Caveat is that I don’t know if it works in Logic. Certainly does in AUM.

    Here's my little contribution done with Drambo.
    It's more of a proof of concept than anything musical.
    The breakbeat doesn't get much use, I found it more fun to hack together a few drum like sounds from Viking 😇

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @reasOne said:
    I tried but i just can’t get in the zone with Viking haha im just not feeling it! I’ll look forward to future challenges tho! And you all did great work with this thing

    Yeah I'm not into mono synths for anything outside of basses, but Viking has some interesting tricks up its sleeve.

    When it comes to the OG AUv3 synths, I absolutely love Poison-202.

    I’ve been deep into mirack and buttersynth and its hard to flip over to viking right now.. I’ve been on a streak of success i can’t take a fail 🤣

    Great jam btw!!

  • @reasOne said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @reasOne said:
    I tried but i just can’t get in the zone with Viking haha im just not feeling it! I’ll look forward to future challenges tho! And you all did great work with this thing

    Yeah I'm not into mono synths for anything outside of basses, but Viking has some interesting tricks up its sleeve.

    When it comes to the OG AUv3 synths, I absolutely love Poison-202.

    I’ve been deep into mirack and buttersynth and its hard to flip over to viking right now.. I’ve been on a streak of success i can’t take a fail 🤣

    Great jam btw!!

    Thanks mate. :) I appreciate it.

    Man, not to go offtopic, but I'm envious of those who can work with advanced modular synthesis. 🤣 I only know the basics. Like, I can watch people like Deadmau5 and Junkie XL noodle with their Euroracks and marvel at the wizardry. I mean I can easily grok Tera Pro's unique method of modular synthesis and UI, but not so much the Eurorack (including MiRack).

    Buttersynth is pretty awesome though and much more easily accessible to my scattered mind. 😂

  • edited May 2024

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @reasOne said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @reasOne said:
    I tried but i just can’t get in the zone with Viking haha im just not feeling it! I’ll look forward to future challenges tho! And you all did great work with this thing

    Yeah I'm not into mono synths for anything outside of basses, but Viking has some interesting tricks up its sleeve.

    When it comes to the OG AUv3 synths, I absolutely love Poison-202.

    I’ve been deep into mirack and buttersynth and its hard to flip over to viking right now.. I’ve been on a streak of success i can’t take a fail 🤣

    Great jam btw!!

    Thanks mate. :) I appreciate it.

    Man, not to go offtopic, but I'm envious of those who can work with advanced modular synthesis. 🤣 I only know the basics. Like, I can watch people like Deadmau5 and Junkie XL noodle with their Euroracks and marvel at the wizardry. I mean I can easily grok Tera Pro's unique method of modular synthesis and UI, but not so much the Eurorack (including MiRack).

    Buttersynth is pretty awesome though and much more easily accessible to my scattered

    when i first messed with vcv rack a long time ago i was nothing but confused lol i just liked to look at the modules and presets and would dream of the day all of it would make sense to me 🤣 that didn’t last long because before i called it quits…and went back to traditional synths… then mirack came out and i repeated the pattern lol
    The last 3 weeks have just been me and mirack only! I’ve learned a lot of valuable things and realized to move slow and with just a handful of modules. They all have their own unique properties and its too much to learn at the beginning …until you can patch a few modules up in several different ways keep it simple. I just kept wanting to reach for the pretty things and then just not get great results lol.
    You can do it man! Just watch dean and some of these awesome people that are kind enough to make videos for us and explain things nice n slow

  • @reasOne said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @reasOne said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @reasOne said:
    I tried but i just can’t get in the zone with Viking haha im just not feeling it! I’ll look forward to future challenges tho! And you all did great work with this thing

    Yeah I'm not into mono synths for anything outside of basses, but Viking has some interesting tricks up its sleeve.

    When it comes to the OG AUv3 synths, I absolutely love Poison-202.

    I’ve been deep into mirack and buttersynth and its hard to flip over to viking right now.. I’ve been on a streak of success i can’t take a fail 🤣

    Great jam btw!!

    Thanks mate. :) I appreciate it.

    Man, not to go offtopic, but I'm envious of those who can work with advanced modular synthesis. 🤣 I only know the basics. Like, I can watch people like Deadmau5 and Junkie XL noodle with their Euroracks and marvel at the wizardry. I mean I can easily grok Tera Pro's unique method of modular synthesis and UI, but not so much the Eurorack (including MiRack).

    Buttersynth is pretty awesome though and much more easily accessible to my scattered

    when i first messed with vcv rack a long time ago i was nothing but confused lol i just liked to look at the modules and presets and dream of the day all of it would make sense to me 🤣 that didn’t last long because before i called it and went back to traditional synths… then mirack came out and i repeated the pattern lol
    The last 3 weeks have just been me and mirack only! I’ve learned a lot of valuable things and realized to move slow and with just a handful of modules. They all have their own unique properties and its too much to learn at the beginning …until you can patch a few modules up in several different ways keep it simple. I just kept wanting to reach for the pretty things and then just not get great results lol.
    You can do it man! Just watch dean and some of these awesome people that are kind enough to make videos for us and explain things nice n slow

    Indeed there are tons of videos out there, and I can make a basic subtractive patch, but I'm confused by modular drone systems and generative music patches. 🤣

  • @bygjohn said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Anyone got any ideas of a midi solution I can use to send the notes played of a chord to individual Viking synth in Logic or other host to record audio for Logic?

    If you’re using multiple Vikings to do polyphony, Polythemus does the job. Caveat is that I don’t know if it works in Logic. Certainly does in AUM.

    Thanks :)

  • @kirmesteggno said:

    @klownshed said:

    My favorite in this thread so far. Sounds like a cool and proper Darkwave track.

    Wow. I’ll take that. Thank you! Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment too :-)

    >

    I'll probably redo the drums and add more tracks because I've assumed that chopping and slicing within the DAW and more than one sample of the break wasn't allowed.

    Yeah chopping/slicinh is explicitly allowed.

    This also gives for more elements and denser drums and elements that can be added or removed on the fly which is a huge factor for this style of Techno and keeping it interesting over a longer time.

    Cool… look forward to hearing where you take it

  • @rs2000 said:

    @bygjohn said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Anyone got any ideas of a midi solution I can use to send the notes played of a chord to individual Viking synth in Logic or other host to record audio for Logic?

    If you’re using multiple Vikings to do polyphony, Polythemus does the job. Caveat is that I don’t know if it works in Logic. Certainly does in AUM.

    Here's my little contribution done with Drambo.
    It's more of a proof of concept than anything musical.
    The breakbeat doesn't get much use, I found it more fun to hack together a few drum like sounds from Viking 😇

    That's a great vibe, nice. The MIDI to poly module is rad, didn't know it existed (like so many other unexplored things in Drambo).

  • edited May 2024

    @klownshed said:
    Yeah chopping/slicinh is explicitly allowed.

    I understood the opening post so that the chopping and slicing was only allowed in the offline DAW, not in the DAW used for the challenge and that it has to be one file from the break 🙈. That's what I did, I took a basedrum snare piece and based all the drums on this using frequency splitting (using the blamsoft filters) with a layer mixer rack (FAC Bandit is a plugin that can do it too in other DAWs).

    Wow. I’ll take that. Thank you! Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment too :-)

    You're very talented, you could aim for releases with your skills. What's your opinion about AI voices for Darkwave? If I were you probably try to generate a Darkwave song and then remove the instrumental and remix it from scratch.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Anyone got any ideas of a midi solution I can use to send the notes played of a chord to individual Viking synth in Logic or other host to record audio for Logic?

    What id do in Logic, especially given time constraints, would be record in the chords one note at a time. Like bands like the Human League used to do in the early 80s.

    What id be more tempted to do would be either make chords in the synth itself by tuning the three oscillators accordingly (which can be automated) or better still make one chord manually with three instances and then sample it which you can then play back with one key old school rave style.

  • @kirmesteggno said:

    @klownshed said:
    Yeah chopping/slicinh is explicitly allowed.

    I understood the opening post so that the chopping and slicing was only allowed in the offline DAW, not in the DAW used for the challenge and that it has to be one file from the break 🙈. That's what I did, I took a basedrum snare piece and based all the drums on this using frequency splitting using a layer mixer rack (FAC Bandit is a plugin that can do it too in other DAWs).

    I just assumed we were allowed to use the DAW — limiting our options further beyond the sounds and fx used would be too much!

    It was hard enough not being able to use compressors or delays creatively :-)

    I use (over)delay on every track. Not being able to use delays it was a challenge in itself. :smile:

  • @klownshed said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @klownshed said:
    Yeah chopping/slicinh is explicitly allowed.

    I understood the opening post so that the chopping and slicing was only allowed in the offline DAW, not in the DAW used for the challenge and that it has to be one file from the break 🙈. That's what I did, I took a basedrum snare piece and based all the drums on this using frequency splitting using a layer mixer rack (FAC Bandit is a plugin that can do it too in other DAWs).

    I just assumed we were allowed to use the DAW — limiting our options further beyond the sounds and fx used would be too much!

    It was hard enough not being able to use compressors or delays creatively :-)

    I use (over)delay on every track. Not being able to use delays it was a challenge in itself. :smile:

    Defintely, creating the rumble from the kick (I usually use delays, samples or resampled delays) was also a big challenge, Other Desert Cities is my goto usually. Most of my drum layers are normally effect layers (or sends in other DAWs) that sometimes come in before the main sound (like with the kick in the video where the effect comes in before the kick).

  • edited May 2024

    @rs2000 said:

    @bygjohn said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Anyone got any ideas of a midi solution I can use to send the notes played of a chord to individual Viking synth in Logic or other host to record audio for Logic?

    If you’re using multiple Vikings to do polyphony, Polythemus does the job. Caveat is that I don’t know if it works in Logic. Certainly does in AUM.

    Here's my little contribution done with Drambo.
    It's more of a proof of concept than anything musical.
    The breakbeat doesn't get much use, I found it more fun to hack together a few drum like sounds from Viking 😇

    Some good sounds there, I especially like the drums, the clap is perfect, and the overall sound which gives me Orbital vibes, especially towards the end the way you’ve used Viking polyphonically.

    Definitely worth fleshing out :-)

    I wanted to make my own Viking Kit but only got as far as bass drum and snare — I ran out of time for hats. To make the challenge even harder I had a self imposed time limit too!

    I’m always impressed with how you use Drambo. I never did get into it myself. I’m thinking I should start exploring using it inside Logic one day.

  • @klownshed said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Anyone got any ideas of a midi solution I can use to send the notes played of a chord to individual Viking synth in Logic or other host to record audio for Logic?

    What id do in Logic, especially given time constraints, would be record in the chords one note at a time. Like bands like the Human League used to do in the early 80s.

    What id be more tempted to do would be either make chords in the synth itself by tuning the three oscillators accordingly (which can be automated) or better still make one chord manually with three instances and then sample it which you can then play back with one key old school rave style.

    Yeah think I’m going for the Human League option to save myself £4 on another app at the moment. Still trying to find the link to your track to check it out again, this thread has got quite long now…better go find my glasses!

  • edited May 2024

    @klownshed said:
    Sounding good, although marks off for using delay!

    Challenged myself and tried to replace delay sin with chain of pure original Blamsoft reverbs (9 reverbs in serial conection, every one very short with 174 ms delay, some panned left, some panned right) ..

  • Thanks @kirmesteggno & @klownshed!

    @dendy: That's exactly what I did to get some delay-ish effect with the shortest possible reverb tails 😄

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