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Thanks. I was ready to walk away from the challenge my first night last Sunday due to not gel with Viking and my own synth sound design skeleton in closet. So I just spent a few minutes every night while at work (in side a manufacturing facility 😂), and on Saturday a couple hours carving space for the sounds with the filters and sequence edits. Sundays was practicing some with the performance/arranged ideas which I completely botched but weirdly satisfyingly fun. I wanted to redo, but I heard something that @dendy say bouncing around my head, “I’m not spending more than two hours for this.”
So I walked away, even tho it was far longer than that.
Yes me too, so frustrating but thankfully I’ve gotten into the habit with my old device to save on. I was up to 3q on my file name suffix. Thankfully everyone mine crashed, Ioading the most previously saved session also loaded my sounds designed.
Same. I learned that a notch filter not only attenuated the competitive frequency on my Amen, but it made the kick punchier too.
Decided to give this a try. Written some chords down. Decided to use BM3 for sample mangling and hosting.
Viking didn't like being hosted there and crashed
Off to other host/daw
btw relistening to all your tracks... amazing work @Svetlovska @jwmmakerofmusic @Fruitbat1919 @dendy @klownshed @bygjohn @rs2000 @squeals @kirmesteggno
Sorry if I missed someone
Will probably give mine a try now with Cubasis, AUM or AEM. Was gonna use Drambo but since some of you already encountered issues, maybe not
Drambo crashed 6 or 8 times for my submission @senhorlampada. But it faithfully reloaded whatever state the patches were in from the last save 👍
Whoa
Somehow I missed your submission. Listening now. Damn awesome, mate
This thread has been very inspiring, and a welcome break from the constant GAS-inducing app threads
. It's easy for me to just make some sonic sketches that I never revisit to turn into a track -- that or I spend too long finishing something.
I know it's past due but I think I'm gonna give it a try since I get home early this afternoon. I originally wanted to submit something but I ended up getting selected for jury duty, so between catching up on work and being dad after court and on the weekend, I didn't have time to touch music stuff. Glad that case is over with. I'm gonna rush through it and not think things through too much. That usually leads me to make things sound a bit too busy (I usually start off with too much then edit things out later).
Since getting into using a computer DAW to play I've missed my one true love, AUM, so I think I'll give this a try with AUM and Mutemaster to arrange when tracks come in or out (instead of working the faders or using Cubasis/Sand). I figure that it's basically like using a linear DAW to automate volume or otherwise arrange a track and since I'm not going to use Mutemaster beyond that I think it's kosher. This will finally give me a chance to actually use Mutemaster -- I've had it forever but haven't really learned it. Also excited to finally play with Viking...when I want a Moogish sound I usually reach for Model D or Mood.
I'm thinking of chopping up the dry Amen break with Neon/Wavebox, then using a midi drum sequencer like Playbeat 3 or Octachron connected to Koala (just as a set of drumpads for the chopped samples...I don't feel like routing midi to individual AUM file players to make a beat). I might make a kick with Viking if I don't hear something I like when chopping the break. I didn't realize that it has a pitch envelope.
Working without EQ sounds oddly freeing...though I'm sure it's a recipe for me to produce some mud lol. I have to admit upfront that I'm going to keep a limiter on the master to avoid any nasty sonic surprises (I've kept Barkfilter's limiter on every AUM template I've made). Gigging has definitely blasted some high frequencies out of my ear...I'm hoping to preserve what's left for as long as possible.
Anyway, here are some comments on the great music you guys have made. Sorry if I missed anyone, a lot of videos to get through!
@NTKK I enjoyed the techno...great groove.
@Svetlovska I love how your personal, dread-inducing style came through.
@Blipsford_Baubie Great sounds here, I could imagine a lot of these beeps layering nicely over Jamp's Bleep app.
@klownshed Very dark and purposeful sound. I could imagine this being the great seed for a new track on a new album.
@rs2000 I could have stood to hear this for the whole 3 minutes -- fantastic drum sound design using Viking and your use of the reverb to make a delay was very effective. I may use Viking more for beats...I didn't realize it has a pitch envelope.
@jwmmakerofmusic Banger, as usual. Really enjoy how you make such varied music and can produce them out so quickly.
@dendy Wow, your sound really takes me back to the heyday of goa trance. What a great walk down memory lane.
@bygjohn Really enjoyed what you did with the filter -- I would never have thought to use Resampler to ping the filter like you did. I spent some time playing with the filter and bitcrusher just pinging and sweeping the filter after hearing your track.
@squeals I concur that this had some very circuit-bendy sounds. Nice big sound from those Viking chords.
@Fruitbat1919 Tense 80's cyberpunk feel. Liked how sparing you were with sounds...it allowed the well-designed beeps to shine.
@senhorlampada Thank you.
And my advice is Cubasis/AEM for the DAW experience, or AUM for jamming (and Cubasis/AEM for further mixdown if desired). Or NS2 if you have/use that as I seemed to have no issues working within NS2. 
@NoncompliantBryant Thank you so much. I have gotten faster over the years with much practice. What used to take me at least a week 10 years ago takes me a matter of hours now. (Of course vocal productions take a couple of days when I have time to do vocals.)
@senhorlampada @NoncompliantBryant Thank you both!
This has been such an interesting exercise, and another piece hopefully on its way is icing on the cake.
It has been a fun experience trying different approaches
Good thing my midi track is settled in. But so far BM3 is a no go.
Modstep with only viking went ok. But putting the effects on my old iPad Mini 2 is cracklefest
I guess I'll give a try to the end. Maybe try 'freezing' tracks and what not.
And then do another one on other daw
That could be a good exercise too. And EP made of different tracks with the same limitations, each in a different environment
That sounds like a fun idea for an EP, although if I created a challenge, I'd set mostly the same parameters but compile some sort of a small sample pack for drums using KB6 samples rather than use a drum loop that is technically already copywritten. Or I can set different parameters but still try to keep things copyright-free.
EDIT: (Stupid spelling error, rofl. I hate that sh-t. 😆 )
@NoncompliantBryant
I have to admit I had other bits to go on mine, yet I could never quite get them to work and eventually gave up. I will probably look at it again in a month or so and hands not tied by any rules, get something more out of it. I definitely enjoyed the limitations initially, but with learning Logic at the exact same time, it all ended up more of a chore in the end than fun. Problem is, when I stop having fun, I lose interest very quickly lol
I used Koala, LoopMix, Borderlands, Thesys, Sector and Egoist to mess with the Amen sample, but didn’t end up using all the sections I made. Messing with those apps was probably the most fun I had with the ‘project’.
At least we got to hear some great ideas and it did add some interesting context to the initial discussion.
I appreciate it.
Eventually that was my experience. But initially I found lack of EQ troublesome. I admit to using an EQ to look at what was going on with eq, but not using it to shape. Very quickly though, my ears did it anyway.
As far mud, yeah same concerns. But again, the limitations forced me to keep going with the options I had and pay more attention to separating out parts and notes going into the track, rather than separating frequencies in the track.
This was a great challenge for learning and breaking habits, I’m already hearing the benefits in things I’m doing now.
One of those learnings from not having an EQ was to use 4 pole Bandpass filters for frequency isolation, which can be a lot quicker because you can shift the entire thing around until things blend nicely, something I'll use more often now on instead of EQ.
I had never really used anything like resampler before, I’ve never really got them to sound good on anything I do. But I did learn that for transitions it can give it a little bit of juice. It can also help blend things together if used very very subtly. In this respect I found it easier to use than the distortion which was surprising.
I also learnt the importance of keeping reverb steady across the board. Harder to do when I couldn’t bus cos of hardware things.
I also learned I rely heavily on delay, but I need to pay more attention to what delay I use, why and how much. Because without it, in some places, it sounded better.
The inphonik apps are what I use normally for this (RX950 = Akai S950 filter, PCM2612 = Sega Genesis), they're also working on bringing the RX1200 (SP1200) which is another banger for bitcrushing. My ears are kinda tuned to those devices because genres I love were shaped by people making heavy use of the originals. PCM2612 is free btw, the other one is $2, totally crazy value.
I wish they'd charge more and fix some bugs though.
Another good one is (Audio) Things Crusher which also has a multimode filter (LP, HP, BP, Notch) in the same plugin window. Worth getting imo.
Thanks for the insights!
Same here. Ironic that I chose not to use the blamesoft bitcrusher despite my sub being inspired by a genre synomonous with it. In this case I thought it was better without it. But a notch filter on the Amen near but not on the kick was nice.
Thanks for the Audiothing tip btw. I will probably get that, cause I rather enjoyed using the filters on each track instead of EQ. Thought it would make stuff sound phasey but was good. As an iPhone user, it was quicker and better overall experience than TB EQs. I’ll save the EQs for any groupings and master or problem stuff.
BTW I recently got a non-linear profile of an S950 converter which can be used in Chow BYOD which sounds quite nice if you want more details.
The BS crusher worked well on the second kick layer where I used it to destroy the kick, perforating it, and then feed that resulting noise into a lp filter and the reverb after it. It's a cool method for Techno rumbles and great alternative to noise samples or apps like Noises from Audiothing (all their apps are bangers imo).
I want to go more into a direction where most sounds in a track originate from just a few, and this challenge was a nice exercise.
Another cool detail of Crushers filter window is that it displays the incoming audio spectrum with a high enough detail, kinda like an EQ.
Definetely interested in this. Haven't messed with IRs or profiles yet but I get the potential.
This is the thread that started me down that rabbit hole, which, the hole is not too, too, deep.
It starts with Fingolfinzz’s first comment:
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/60236/best-plug-in-or-way-to-emulate-an-analog-mixing-board
Thanks! I remember the thread, but probably wouldn't have found it again through search.
You guys remind me that I totally forgot to use the bitcrusher in my sketch
Sorry, I’m late listening to all the great tracks in this thread. Enjoyed every one, no favourites!
I know I’m too late but in another way I’m too early as I did this track two years ago, just Viking, no effects at all.
No video as YouTube hadn’t been invented then 😊 Looking forward to the Monolit challenge 👍
Nice track @GeoTony!
Viking has its charm. I started messing with Monolit for the new challenge but although in theory it's the more powerful synth, I liked Viking better sound-wise so I stopped using it.
@GeoTony good stuff!
As for the Bleass Monolit one, I doubt I’ll participate. Mainly as AUM doesn’t have built in effects, and the “approved” ones are ones I don’t have and don’t plan on buying. I’m not a huge fan of Bleass for some reason - I find their interfaces annoying, which is part of it. Not a criticism of them in general, they do lots of great stuff, but I just don’t gel with their apps.
Encountered crackles, crashes and loads of issues. So no video
Used Modstep. Had to reduce the amount of tracks and use no effects or it would be a no go
Modstep? Old school!
It was the future once… I like the sinister bleep of this 
Thanks my dear
I like keeping modstep around. Maybe i'll work more with its internal instruments and external apps that play better with it. It was not the case for Viking Synth.
but it does have the support to record channels and import into the sampler, but it would be too much work and not worth the hassle