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Jim Audio Groove Rider 2 - RELEASED

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  • @cokomairena said:
    I hope he sells a ton

    Same here, mate. :) Some of my most popular tracks posted to SoundCloud this year were made in GR-II!

  • edited April 2025

    I’m glad I paid full price. GR2 is soooo good I still feel like I got an amazing bargain! I just bought Poison and Pure Acid to support the dev.

    By comparison, Bitwig (which I also love) wants (But is not gettting!) USD169 for a 12 month plan. In return I get some drum machines and a few other small things I don’t use plus some bug fixes.

  • It does seem a bit odd to have a sale so soon after intro. I hope Jim sells a ton of copies because that will keep him motivated. I paid the prerelease price and my only regret is the hundreds of dollars spent on other apps that I virtually never use now.

    For me, GRII is the best iOS music app - period.

  • @MMXXIV said:
    Similar with Poison and Acid. [...snip…] No real improvements to either for years

    why «improve» things that already work well?
    i can remember dozens of great application that added unnecessary bells and whistles for improvements' sake and ended becoming cumbersome and monstrous bloatware.

  • @MMXXIV said:
    Similar with Poison and Acid. Finally discounts them but for less than the last 10 times they’ve been discounted. No real improvements to either for years, just a basic recent integration with GRII. Feels pretty greedy to me. Was going to pick up both but I won’t be bothering now, on principle. Doubt I’ll buy anything from this Dev again either. That’s just me. YMMV.

    Greedy? How so?

    You probably imagine that these apps generate far far far far more revenue than they do.

  • edited April 2025

    i paid full price .. i don’t care if there is sale.. even full price is ridiculously low for such powerful app.. i am just sorry for people complaining abou few dollars up or down in price… jeez people you have no idea how much work is to make such app and you are complaining about money smaller than what you pay for weekly groceries.. shame on you.

  • edited April 2025

    It’s an incredible piece of software and I can’t imagine that the amount of time he spends developing these apps versus income amounts to greed. I would have paid double for it.

  • Shoot… I’ll pay for MiDi import, save Clip.. etc..

  • I would fund a Trust to ensure that GR2 and Drambo stay operational should anything unfortunate ever happen to the Devs.

  • @MMXXIV said:
    Really don’t like it when Devs do this - First discount offered is lower than the intro price paid. Leaves a very bad taste in the mouth.

    GRII essentially provides functionality of hardware that costs hundred$. Therefore, I am not concerned that it is on sale and that I may have paid a few pounds or dollars more than a new customer. The more customers the merrier.

    I still have 3.5in floppy disks that cost $25US each and contained 6-8 high quality MIDI song files of popular 70's artists. That was in late 1980's dollars:)

    I am extremely thankful for the embarrassment of riches available today in the form of IOS apps.

  • Hello ! has anyone managed to use the app 'auto-fills' with GR2?

    it crashes all the time, before a drum or sample track ...

    Thx !

  • @biggir said:
    Hello ! has anyone managed to use the app 'auto-fills' with GR2?

    it crashes all the time, before a drum or sample track ...

    Thx !

    I use it all the time. Works great.

  • @wim said:
    I never did understand why that bothers some people.

    They might have a hard time investing their money. Price is jumping all day long

  • Just wonder any reason to get GR-16 for existing GR2 users?

    Goovebox experience?

  • @jklovemusic said:
    Just wonder any reason to get GR-16 for existing GR2 users?

    Goovebox experience?

    Not sure if anyone would need GR-16 after using GR-II, but then again, GR-16 works on iPhone. :)

  • wimwim
    edited April 2025

    @jklovemusic said:
    Just wonder any reason to get GR-16 for existing GR2 users?

    Goovebox experience?

    I doubt I'll use GR-16 much now that Gr-2 is here, but ...

    • iPhone, as @jwmmakerofmusic mentioned
    • AUv3 version
    • Ratchets (called "Stroke" in GR-16)
    • Midi Clock In

    Those are all major features I miss a lot in GR-2 and hope will be implemented down the line. AUv3 is the only one of those I've heard isn't under consideration, though maybe that has changed. Of course AUv3 would mean having to strip out all the hosting part from the plugin version, so I can kinda see where he's coming from.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @jklovemusic said:
    Just wonder any reason to get GR-16 for existing GR2 users?

    Goovebox experience?

    Not sure if anyone would need GR-16 after using GR-II, but then again, GR-16 works on iPhone. :)

    It depends what you use it for. Some people want a low cpu groovebox to use in the host of their choice.

  • @wim I forgot about that GR-16 can be hosted as an AUv3. Some other features I forgot about too. 😅


    @espiegel123 That's an excellent point to be fair. :) Now I'm curious about making a couple tracks in GR-16 as standalone. 😎

  • @jklovemusic said:
    Just wonder any reason to get GR-16 for existing GR2 users?

    runs on iPhone.
    comparing to other contenders running on iPhone – simpler than Drambo and cheaper than BAM.

  • wimwim
    edited April 2025

    One of the best iPhone UIs out there too. Pretty darn usable.
    I kinda miss it now that I’ve opened it up again.

  • Considering the current sale on GR-2, would anyone care to offer an opinion on what GR-2’s unique selling points are when compared to the other groovebox offerings (thinking specifically about Drambo and Bam)?

  • @Robin2 said:
    Considering the current sale on GR-2, would anyone care to offer an opinion on what GR-2’s unique selling points are when compared to the other groovebox offerings (thinking specifically about Drambo and Bam)?

    I can’t speak for BAM, but as much as I like Drambo, GR-2 is just a lot more accessible and fun for me. I tinker around a lot in Drambo, but rarely am very inspired to create. What you need is all right to hand.

    I wouldn’t go as far as to say I like GR-2 better than Drambo, but I use it more and end up getting more done. I give Drambo’s sequencer far higher marks tho.

  • edited April 2025

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  • edited April 2025

    @Robin2 said:
    Considering the current sale on GR-2, would anyone care to offer an opinion on what GR-2’s unique selling points are when compared to the other groovebox offerings (thinking specifically about Drambo and Bam)?

    for me the utmost selling point is Launchpad integration.
    in Drambo it's only expected, in BAM it's average/acceptable, in GR2 it's so great that made me order new shiny LP Pro (and it's going to be even greater).
    this makes GR2 quick AF – and those who make music in their limited spare time (like me) will appreciate it a lot.

    also, layers. you have up to 3 instrument layers per track. this is definitely achievable in Drambo – but in GR2 you have this right out of the box.

    also, you have both clip mode and song mode. moreover, you can play your tracks in song mode and use clip mode over it – clips launched manually override song clips on respective tracks. this is awesome if you ever play live.

  • Thanks @wim and @chaocrator. And now it seems Sugar Bytes have just entered the groovebox arena too. Personally, I’ve never been disappointed with a Sugar Bytes app so that really (potentially) changes things.

  • one can't have too many grooveboxes (either hardware or software) :D

  • @chaocrator said:
    one can't have too many grooveboxes (either hardware or software) :D

    Exactly! Although, I didn't get on with Bam exactly, and Drambo is amazing but still a bit overwhelming for me. I'm with @wim that Drambo is fun to tinker around in, but not so much for just cutting out the twaddle and getting straight into the creativity. Lol. GR-II is great for creating, but not as great for mixing down exactly. But recently @jimpavloff graciously added stem export so stems can be imported into a DAW of choice (on iOS or Desktop) for a proper mixdown. ^_^

  • @Robin2 said:
    Considering the current sale on GR-2, would anyone care to offer an opinion on what GR-2’s unique selling points are when compared to the other groovebox offerings (thinking specifically about Drambo and Bam)?

    GR2 = MacOS/iOS, u use it for the best experience for most of the time/thing
    Drambo = Linux, u use it when u need some dark magic
    Full-features DAW = Windows, u use it when there is no other choices.

    Actually u need them all. I'm not joking

    what if u need some crazy polyrhythm stuff u can't get except Drambo?
    what if u need 50 tracks u can only go for your DAW
    but most of the time, I just need GR2 and SAND(for MPE)

  • edited April 2025

    @Robin2 said:
    Considering the current sale on GR-2, would anyone care to offer an opinion on what GR-2’s unique selling points are when compared to the other groovebox offerings (thinking specifically about Drambo and Bam)?

    Full-featured DAW (Cubasis in my case) is my default for creating all genres of music, but a little bit clunky compared to...

    GR2, which is a God-mode creativity sandbox. Though doesn't have as many options for mixing down like in Cubasis, it is very capable of getting full arrangements fleshed out rapidly. See, in Cubasis, I use a piano sound to lay out melody, chords, and bassline (not always in that particular order). In GR2, I can lay out everything my track needs without needing the "piano sketch" first.

    Also, now that GR2 has much needed stem export, you can render those and import into a DAW of choice (regardless if on iOS, MacOS, Windows, Linux, etc) for further mixdown. So best of both worlds.

    Drambo is a tinkerer's paradise. Fun for in-deprh sound design, but not necessarily my favourite for actual music creation. But ofc ymmv.

    Regarding Bam, I just didn't get along with it all too well. I may try to make a quick EP with that sometime in the future though just to see if I can. 😂

    EDIT: Jfc, my reply is top of page 63, where one of my previous replies was top of page 62. I feel spotted out. 👀 Lol! 😂

  • edited April 2025

    @chaocrator said:
    one can't have too many grooveboxes (either hardware or software) :D

    LOL I'm seeking for first one, be it hardware or software
    (I don't count GR2 as a Grooovebox)

    I believe my search of a software old-school and limited "groovebox" is a sick... as I don't need it.

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