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Social Security auto-stops payments to those older than 115.
So, the "3.47 million people from ages 120 to 129. 3.9 million people from ages 130 to 139. 3.5 million people from ages 140 to 149" that Trump talked about would not be getting paid.
As for those under 115, I don't know.
I await with interest Elon's huge list of names of the millions of dead people claiming benefits.
Fuck that noise 🌻
Fuck that noise as well 🌻
And fuck that noise as well 🌻
And,of course, fuck that noise 🌻
Ahh. That's good to know. If accurate.
Won't happen. But it's nice to think that even if it's thousands, something would be done about them.
Nope. I'm too cynical to believe that. Sadly this is all mostly kabuki theatre.
Yep.
The solution is to reduce spending in some or all of the Big Four:
And nobody has the guts to do that.
There is where we differ. I believe there is more than enough waste and fraud that can be found in the four of those to make a huge difference without hurting any of them.
I don't know how much "waste and fraud" there is in these areas, but cutting back spending (for whatever reason) is the main point. You can call it waste, fraud, belt tightening or whatever, I don't care - the main thing is to greatly reduce spending.
But will Trump do it?
On the 31th July 2024 President Trump said "I will not cut 1 cent from Social Security or Medicare". On 18th July 2023 Trump said "I will provide record funding for our military".
Based on his own words you would have to think "no".
And, as an aside, I don't see Musk "investigating" any military establisments for 150 year old soldiers still getting paycheques.
You’re equating finding and eliminating fraud and waste with cutting benefits and legitimate spending. They’re not at all the same. That’s like saying someone is going to freeze the house because they plan to pay less for heating by shutting the windows this winter.
It’s easy enough to find real problems with Trump’s methods and agenda (Lord knows I do) without twisting his words. He does a just fine contradicting himself without our help.
I agree, they are not the same.
I think there is probably some waste and fraud in all these areas....but I would imagine it is only a small percent compared to the overall expenditure of each area. i.e. of the millions of people on Social Security or MediCare or MediCaid only a small percentage are committing fraud. Most are entitled to what they are getting under the rules.
To get the budget under control you are going to have to cut back their entitlements and that is where the pain comes in. Some people may find themselves no longer covered by these programs or getting less in payments.
No politician has addressed this. And that is why the US has a $36 trillion debt.
I think it’s far bigger than you do. Neither of us has proof. All the more reason to do everything possible to find out.
You are not wrong.
On the other hand, anyone that does attempt to address it or even seriously discuss it will never be elected.
We are not far from when the issue can no longer be ignored though. It’s going to be ugly.
100%.
100%.
Yes there’s always those problems, but they do not address the root causes of problems of the main three areas Defence, MediCare and MediCaid.
Maybe Defence should be renamed to Offence Pursuit Dept, because the cost of endless war has created a monstrous aberration in the Federal budget. From a military perspective alone how many of these endless wars need to be lost before some semblance of sense prevails, this is not counting the suffering caused to all the people of these many conflicts, except those who gain from the business of war itself.
As to the medical costs, take a look at the number of people who suffer from obesity problems that were not there in such high numbers a few decades ago, caused largely due to poor dietary habits and lifestyle changes in society.
A long term strategy regarding these areas of the budget would restructure outlay and with a sensible fair taxation system in place could be costed to restructure the built up debt.
That’s always been the case regardless of governance and system. Remember you had a Revolution about that.
I have to admit that's a pretty impressive web site given how quickly it has been put up. Lacking in detail in several respects so far, but the detail that is there is more than I expected.
Why is DOGE exempt from the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)?
Surely this runs contrary to President Trump and Elon Musk's promises and stated goals of delivering open, transparent government to the public?
Musk said earlier this month...
No exceptions...?
Trump promised to demolish "the deep state" (whatever the hell that actually is). Instead, he is delivering a new version of the deep state, but one full of his cronies and oriented toward conservative ends.
I wouldn't trust DOGE's numbers until someone else runs a calculator over them.
Last week they listed an $8 million dollar saving as $8 BILLION.
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/01/nx-s1-5313853/doge-savings-receipts-musk-trump
That goes without saying. 😂
But it's interesting diving into the actual receipts where they exist.
Could this be true...? Fake news?
Trump reportedly charging millions for guests to dine with him at Mar-a-Lago:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/05/trump-dinner-mar-a-lago
They aren't cutting fat. They are (largely illegally) firing people and downsizing departments because the world's richest man says so on a whim....who is largely ignorant of how the government works and not knowledgeable about the details of the departments with which he is (illegally) interfering.
The cuts to scientific research, Medicaid, USAID, CDC, NOAA etc are going to have very bad effects...and their plans to gut social security is going to harm a lot of people... not to mention the dismantling of civil rights and the preferential hiring of partisan zealots.
The GOP are allowing DOGE to illegally act in place of Congress because the GOP knows that if they slashed these programs via the proper constitutional order (i.e. passing legislation) it would have a devastating impact on their election fortunes. They want to have Musk be responsible rather than themselves.
It is odd that there is this talk like drastic action needed to be fix the economy when the economy was doing well and had record low unemployment.
The site has been shown to be highly inaccurate.
Indiscriminately cutting spending g doesn’t mean one is increasing efficiency or improving lives.
Creating websites is easy.
Tryin' to think of a smart-ass reply ... but I got nothin'.
Does seem a bit like carpet bombing to solve a gopher problem.
Surfing contract cancellation receipts and lease cancellation details is fascinating though.
I think the public is very aware that Trump/Musk are doing the cost cutting and the GOP will suffer from that when the mid-terms come around in Nov 2026.
By then the effects of Trump's tariffs will also play into the situation. Prices will probably be higher on a lot of things.
Trump's health and mental state a year and a half away might also be different to today.
And I wonder how long before Elon gets bored smashing things up? If he and Trump have a falling out then it will get very ugly. And very public.
@Simon: I believe Musk is in it to try to remake America. Read up on Curtis Yarvin to understand his goals and those of several other tech billionaires (Thiel, Andreessen). It sounds very fringe but these guys believe in Yarvin’s vision as does J.D. Vance.
I think anyone trying to understand what is happening needs to understand the norm-breaking direction they want to go in.
Remember, Trump admires Putin and other authoritarians and views them as real leaders.
I think Wall Street is beginning to realize that this isn’t a re-hash of Trump 1.
I don’t think you recognize kabuki when you see kabuki 🌻
He’s still not going to be your friend 🌻
I’m shocked shocked I tell you that the resident Musk Fluffer hasn’t disputed that!
Not even Steve Buscemi in his high school production of A Midsummer Night's Dream!
Welcome to conspiracy theory world, sadly the phrase was demeaned, a few decades ago to ridicule speculation regarding the conspired murder of JFK, if only you hadn’t barricaded yourself behind partisan rhetoric, you would have noticed that all those ‘illegal’ mechanisms of power that Musk now uses were enabled over many administrations of ‘different’ parties, in effect you could say they were the two sides of the same coin. Created to divide the populace. All the born fruit of the MIC, corporations, oligarchs, check those names for their links to the deep state, others appear on the opposing team too, all seek power for themselves just using party politics as the vehicle.
The power battle will unfold, both in public and behind the scenes, who will emerge the Feudal Overlord with the weapon of control that A.I. will be?