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jAmp Percussive by Jan Maes (Released)

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  • Is it a low cpu machine, like fac drum or flexi sampler etc.

    Because of how iv built a host drum machine.

    Modules on tracks.

    Is there any sounds that this might well do where samples fail.

    Perhaps a snare etc.

    So essentially using this drum machine but in a host track, for a sound per track.

  • @sigma79 said:
    So essentially using this drum machine but in a host track, for a sound per track.

    Does that mean you would want to run one instance per track? Or, would you send the midi from multiple tracks into one instance?

  • edited March 8

    This thing sounds amazing.

    And I’ve just been discovering what an absolutely amazing sequencer this this has! This app is worth 3x the price just for the sequencer. It’s the absolute best parameterized rhythm jamming I’ve ever seen. It’s so natural feeling in how you can guide the rhythmic direction based on how you set the knobs and introduce the glitch amount.

  • @wim said:

    @sigma79 said:
    So essentially using this drum machine but in a host track, for a sound per track.

    Does that mean you would want to run one instance per track? Or, would you send the midi from multiple tracks into one instance?

    Iv always placed a drum machine per track until now, where I place a flexi sampler per track. So essesntially the same.

    This would be low cpu and good at a drum sound a sample is not.

    Like a snare etc.

    Is this trying to model acoustic sounds or is it still electronic like fac drum ?

  • @sigma79 said:

    @wim said:

    @sigma79 said:
    So essentially using this drum machine but in a host track, for a sound per track.

    Does that mean you would want to run one instance per track? Or, would you send the midi from multiple tracks into one instance?

    Iv always placed a drum machine per track until now, where I place a flexi sampler per track. So essesntially the same.

    I was afraid you were going to say that. Sorry, I would never do it that way, and I don't really feel like setting a test up. How many instances were you thinking? Maybe someone else will be more generous with their time.

    This would be low cpu and good at a drum sound a sample is not.

    Like a snare etc.

    Is this trying to model acoustic sounds or is it still electronic like fac drum ?

    Acoustic.

  • wimwim
    edited March 8

    I doubt it's going to be lower CPU use than a sampler like Flexi. Playing back drum samples is about as low CPU cost as you can get.

  • @wim said:
    I doubt it's going to be lower CPU use than a sampler like Flexi. Playing back drum samples is about as low CPU cost as you can get.

    Thats cool.

    Il buy app.

  • @janm31415 said:
    Hi,
    developer here.
    Thanks for the nice words.
    Feel free to leave your feedback here and I will try to incorporate suggestions and feedback in a next release.

    One more… it’s a little odd that the instrument voices are in a different order on the channel and sequencer screens…

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  • This sounds very good on its own and could also be a great layering tool! Congrats @janm31415 and thanks for providing a demo. Will definitely buy the IAP!

    PS: very impressed by all your guitar apps specially jAmp IR and Cab ML! The Fair Limiter sounds great too !!!

  • Is there a reason why the pads don’t trigger until you lift your finger? It feels very unresponsive that way.

  • @Gavinski said:

    See the comments section for a few detailed and useful clarifications from @janm31415 on things I found confusing. There's quite a bit of room for headscratching with some aspects of the app. A slightly more detailed manual catering to non-drummers would be ace.

    Sounds great tho, really fun to tweak, excellent that there's a demo mode, and I'm excited to explore the 'groove' mutation settings more now that I understand it a bit better!

    Wow, excellent review Gav! Every dev should have you in his/her UX team. This app is very good and definitely deserves some polishing.

  • @wim said:
    Is there a reason why the pads don’t trigger until you lift your finger? It feels very unresponsive that way.

    I thought so far I’m the only one noticed it. This behaviour should be changed.
    Furthermore if you play it with an external midi controller the sounds are being triggered by both the key on and key off events which is weird.

  • @filo01 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    See the comments section for a few detailed and useful clarifications from @janm31415 on things I found confusing. There's quite a bit of room for headscratching with some aspects of the app. A slightly more detailed manual catering to non-drummers would be ace.

    Sounds great tho, really fun to tweak, excellent that there's a demo mode, and I'm excited to explore the 'groove' mutation settings more now that I understand it a bit better!

    Wow, excellent review Gav! Every dev should have you in his/her UX team. This app is very good and definitely deserves some polishing.

    Thnx! It could definitely do with some polishing, but great app regardless. Due to time constraints I was a bit confused by a few knobs and their interactions, so the comments in the comment section of the vid by Jan the dev are worth a read

  • This is what Blip Box should have been from the get go.

  • @GLacey said:

    @wim said:
    Is there a reason why the pads don’t trigger until you lift your finger? It feels very unresponsive that way.

    I thought so far I’m the only one noticed it. This behaviour should be changed.
    Furthermore if you play it with an external midi controller the sounds are being triggered by both the key on and key off events which is weird.

    Hi, I will fix this in the next release. Thanks for bringing this up.

  • @JanKun said:
    This sounds very good on its own and could also be a great layering tool! Congrats @janm31415 and thanks for providing a demo. Will definitely buy the IAP!

    PS: very impressed by all your guitar apps specially jAmp IR and Cab ML! The Fair Limiter sounds great too !!!

    Thanks!

  • edited March 8

    Sounds pretty cool and a big bonus that it works on Mac too :)

    Snare fills and hi hats patterns come alive with this.

  • That’s a very cool app. You can for example use your usual external sequencer and add some mutations to bring live to your tracks. I bought the IAP

  • edited March 8

    @Slush said:
    This is what Blip Box should have been from the get go.

    I like blip box for what it is. I’m a sucker for a drum synth.

    JAmp Percussion is a different concept.

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  • No idea how to use app.

    Where I cant copy and paste to use the key I need to trigger a sound I want.

    Tried visually copying settings.

    but the pages of parameters dont even work the same as another page.

    Like its different engines or something.

    Why not just make drum machines similar format to what people are more likely to be used to ( like fac and blip )

    On a page ?

    Tweak parameters.

    On another page.

    Tweak parameters.

    Copy a page.

    Simple.

  • @sigma79 said:
    No idea how to use app.

    Where I cant copy and paste to use the key I need to trigger a sound I want.

    Tried visually copying settings.

    but the pages of parameters dont even work the same as another page.

    Like its different engines or something.

    Why not just make drum machines similar format to what people are more likely to be used to ( like fac and blip )

    On a page ?

    Tweak parameters.

    On another page.

    Tweak parameters.

    Copy a page.

    Simple.

    Hi, the copy/paste seems to be a bit confusing to more people, so I'll try to come up with a solution for that.
    There are indeed two different synths in Percussive. The top row (8 buttons) controls a synthesizer for drums with membranes, while the bottom row (also 8 buttons) controls the synthesizer for cymbals. When you press copy, the current selected synthesizer's parameters are copied, and you can only paste to buttons on the same row, i.e. to the same synthesizer type.
    In your video you are trying to copy from a cymbal to a membrane, so that doesn't do anything.

    Maybe I should use a different color for the two types of synthesizers. Or allow copy/paste between the different synth types, as they have almost the same type of settings.

    If you are on the sequencer page, then the copy/paste will copy a full pattern (like everything in P0), and then you can paste this pattern in, e.g., P1 or P2.

  • edited March 8

    @sigma79 said:

    Why not just make drum machines similar format to what people are more likely to be used to ( like fac and blip )

    I’m more likely to use it as it is. Your method is nothing like how I want to use a drum machine.

    One of us might be a niche. I won’t assume which one is which.

    As for your method, you should be able to work around it quite easily by setting which MIDI note you want each ‘pad’ in percussive to respond to. It’s all there to make it easy to map it to suit where you want your hits.

  • @janm31415

    Hi, this really sounds great but doesn’t work in logic (for me anyway - anyone else have issues?)

    If I try to open it as a midi instrument (I was trying to get it to play a midi beat in there) it immediately crashes and closes logic every time.

    Hopefully a bug fix away

    Also, It seems to have a natural round robin effect?

  • edited March 8

    @klownshed said:

    @sigma79 said:

    Why not just make drum machines similar format to what people are more likely to be used to ( like fac and blip )

    I’m more likely to use it as it is. Your method is nothing like how I want to use a drum machine.

    One of us might be a niche. I won’t assume which one is which.

    As for your method, you should be able to work around it quite easily by setting which MIDI note you want each ‘pad’ in percussive to respond to. It’s all there to make it easy to map it to suit where you want your hits.

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  • @janm31415 said:

    @sigma79 said:
    No idea how to use app.

    Where I cant copy and paste to use the key I need to trigger a sound I want.

    Tried visually copying settings.

    but the pages of parameters dont even work the same as another page.

    Like its different engines or something.

    Why not just make drum machines similar format to what people are more likely to be used to ( like fac and blip )

    On a page ?

    Tweak parameters.

    On another page.

    Tweak parameters.

    Copy a page.

    Simple.

    Hi, the copy/paste seems to be a bit confusing to more people, so I'll try to come up with a solution for that.
    There are indeed two different synths in Percussive. The top row (8 buttons) controls a synthesizer for drums with membranes, while the bottom row (also 8 buttons) controls the synthesizer for cymbals. When you press copy, the current selected synthesizer's parameters are copied, and you can only paste to buttons on the same row, i.e. to the same synthesizer type.
    In your video you are trying to copy from a cymbal to a membrane, so that doesn't do anything.

    Maybe I should use a different color for the two types of synthesizers. Or allow copy/paste between the different synth types, as they have almost the same type of settings.

    If you are on the sequencer page, then the copy/paste will copy a full pattern (like everything in P0), and then you can paste this pattern in, e.g., P1 or P2.

    Its cool.

    Thanks.

    See vid.

    Its just me being silly.

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  • edited March 8

    @janm31415 this sounds amazing!. So fun and inspiring. Sounds a lot more dynamic and alive than a sample based drum machine. Love the integrated sequencer, it might not be a big deal for others but the fact that you can spin up the app and just play around is very rewarding. Kudos to you! 🙌
    I find some options a bit confusing, like the chance parameter you discuss above. It’s an innovative approach with the vocabulary stuff and such, so I’ll try to expend time and see if it clicks. The sequencer does seem to lead to very interesting and dynamic feel which is great. Doesn’t feel robotic at all. Agree with @MonkeyDrummer, it’s got special sauce.
    Some first impressions about things I’d like:

    • In the sequencer, some indication for the 4/4 downbeats (1;5:9…) for lazy bastards like me.
    • Noise envelope independently: this seems like a big one for me. I really miss being able to make the noise layer fit better. Usually to make it shorter than the overtone and mullet. It feels (when loud) that it lingers for too long. Being able to shape it independently would be a great addition. I would like more noise on the attack stage and less on the tail, where it seems to bury and overpower the nice overtone tail.
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