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Was just about to post the same thing. I love the drambo question threads as it lures out the likes of @wim @rs2000 @tyslothrop1 @timfromtheborder (and others)
You guys are appreciated.
It is so helpful to have input from these guys while learning something as deep as Drambo. Not joking, but I might have brushed it off as too complicated and abandonned it without their presence and generosity. Instead, it sparked my modular journey and I look forward to learn more and more.
Regarding Drambo in general...
...personally I've learned it 'the hard way' (ie. 'Learning By Doing' since the early pre-release betas) and still learn new more efficient ways of doing the things I need it to do.
Even after all these years I still can't say I know 'everything' there is to know about Drambo
The positive in this has been that I've been able to drastically cut down on getting new apps simply by asking myself a question like "Can it be done With Drambo?". If the answer is yes then I've saved myself a buck or two.
I encourage all users to ask how things can be done with Drambo as it's a good way to use long-timers to also refresh the current knowledge base, this doesn't mean 'ready cooked solution' but rather guidance on their Drambo journey.
It's like the saying, "Don't give the man a fish but learn him to fish instead" really holds true regarding learning to use the more advanced apps.
Learning modular apps has improved my understanding of other synths. As I learned to piece together a few basic synths and generative patches, I had a better feel for the architecture of any synth, which in turn has helped me with sound design.
I love threads like this which nudge me to open an app and explore it in new ways. I don't remember having done a generative patch in Drambo, only miRack. I had a great time and also got a new appreciation for Drambo's power.
I find patching a little easier to follow in miRack, but I feel like Drambo has the edge in overall power and speed of adding, and moving modules. I'm glad this new avenue opened up for me. 👍🏼
I still think it's funny that I lose interest in listening to generative patch based music after a few minutes ... unless I patched it together myself. Then I can enjoy listening for a long time, even to an inferior patch. 🙃
Funny thing is I feel the same with buying apps, I'm sure it will help save some bucks. But I have to speak to myself not to indulge in an eurorack... yet 🙈 Oh my, oh my, this is a disaster in the making...! 💸
I first told myself, why should I even care to do shitty patches to begin with, when there are such great ones out there. But I had so much fun manipulating the ones I made myself. I think it has to do with the simplicity and the immediate knowledge of the purpose of each module.
I have the same problem, I love listening to crazy generative patches… if they are my own 😄 nobody else seems to have the patience but that’s ok
Yeah that’s about it although I hate to agree with the donkey on the right
Is there a way to multiply a synced lfos time? I'd like to go past 16 bars. The pulse divider would be perfect, but it changes the shape of the wave...
Use a Mini LFO and hook it up to a Scale Time module. Transport Time so it doesn’t reset with the playhead. You’ll have to do your own calculation.
Damn I was close, I had this setup minus the Transport Time. Thanks
Is there a reason why the normal LFO doesn't have this clock input?
I guess it would clash with the sync options already in there. Like the program sync is super useful. Just use the one that suits the situation.
Exactly the reason why I started building my own. Including my own weird preferences of course 😅
Just one of many design decisions which are always a compromise between simplicity and functionality.
But you're right, I don't see where a time input in the standard LFO would hurt.
I tried to create a rack with 4 lfos already set to specific frequencies that serve as song structure, but the rack has only 1 out and I can't plug anything directly into the lfos. Is there another way to achieve something like this?
Oh, I might need to use the Rack module and create the individual outputs myself. Will try that later!
Exactly
You could also use a Layers module. Also a nice way to organize things.
Yeah, I began playing with Layer modules. They are neat! I like the idea of the Layer switch for example, but I haven't incorporated it in my workflow yet.
I use the layerswitch a lot. There are very easy use cases. For starters if you have an FX, you don't need on all the time, put it in a layer switch add an empty layer and you can switch it off and save CPU, if that setting is on.
Another would be a number of CV-sequencers to switch between. You can start with one, put a seq in, you like, copy that into another layer, slightly change it, copy again... If you connect a synced LFO to the index, you can chain them, too.
So many useful things you can do with the layerswitch.
You can also use the Layer Switch to have multiple instances of the same auv3 plugin, each having a different preset loaded. Use clip p-locking to change preset (or even step p-lock). It works well as long as the plugin is not too memory intensive (it doesn't work well with OneShot on my old ipad).
For your collection of lfos the Misc/Rack is better, using multiple output signals. All the layers modules have only single output. I have done the same for having a collection of lfos and envelopes.
The basic Layers module has an output per layer.
Really great use cases. Love it! I look to find ways to create song structures without the use of a sequencer, mostly with lfos, so these will come in very handy to create variations.
I was using the basic layers module already with Piano Motifs to separate midi channel 1/2/3 while staying in the same rack, but your ideas will definitely open some doors. Thanks
I will try that, as it can reduce side scrolling when having a lot of modules. I like the idea of having things ordered in tabs. Thanks!
@oscillotus you can create interesting structure/variation using the Switch 1-N/N-1 modules as well, which can be triggered with gates. You can use them to make different signal paths. Switch 1-N is 1 input into N outputs — Switch N-1 is N inputs into 1 output. This is a way to increase side scrolling
Haha! This seems way out of my league, for now at least. But when I get there, I'll come back to this message! I have a hard time to wrap my head around the math and conditional modules.
It is not so hard
Here is a good experiment using the switch modules, you end up with some nice bleeping drones.