Outgrowth by Aqeel Aadam Sound (Released)

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@unlink said:
@aqeelaadam (or anyone else)

I'm unable to download the new samples, the app just crashes when it reaches 100%. Same in auv3 or standalone.

In the end I solved it exporting my presets and reinstalling the app.

Also there is another small bug still present: if you change presets with the modulation window open, the modulation window doesn’t change to reflect the parameters of the selected preset. You need to close and open the modulation window again.

Mojotele65

This is the most refreshing, beautiful and inspiring apps in years. I didn’t know I was looking for this, but so glad to have it.

wim

I have one new wish.

It really bugs me that he filter cutoff knob isn't available when the filter details are open. Not being able to try different cutoff levels when adjusting envelope amount, etc. is terrible workflow.

I need to write @aqeelaadam about this one. It bothers me every time I use the app. Fix that, and add audio clipboard support, and I have not a single thing I need for this to be one of my top ten synth apps of all time.

skiphunt

@offbrands said:

@skiphunt said:

@offbrands said:

@skiphunt said:

@skiphunt said:
I saved a new preset and selected to save with samples, but it didn’t save with samples (iPhone) - I created the plugin again and it worked the second time, but that hit point might need to be adjusted.

Also, is there no way to just export one preset? When I go to export/zip it includes all in the user folder

I created a new folder, but put a single preset in, but there’s no way to move a preset from folder to another folder, that I can see. I also don’t see any way to delete a folder within the app.

Does Outgrowth have more preset management options via the files app?

@aqeelaadam Doesn’t look like there’s any preset management for Outgrowth in the a Files app either. So, there’s no way to delete a folder I created in Outgrowth? Or a way to export only one user created preset instead of the entire user preset folder at once?

Came across this, you have to have at least one preset in the folder for the option to delete it to come up.

I have folders with presets in them I can delete presets but I don’t see how you can delete the folder as you suggest you can?

Does that not come up for you? This is the older version. Haven’t updated on my phone yet.

It didn't come up on the launched version, but let me update and see if it shows up after updating to the fresh update. Will report back afterwards.

skiphunt

@skiphunt said:

@offbrands said:

@skiphunt said:

@offbrands said:

@skiphunt said:

@skiphunt said:
I saved a new preset and selected to save with samples, but it didn’t save with samples (iPhone) - I created the plugin again and it worked the second time, but that hit point might need to be adjusted.

Also, is there no way to just export one preset? When I go to export/zip it includes all in the user folder

I created a new folder, but put a single preset in, but there’s no way to move a preset from folder to another folder, that I can see. I also don’t see any way to delete a folder within the app.

Does Outgrowth have more preset management options via the files app?

@aqeelaadam Doesn’t look like there’s any preset management for Outgrowth in the a Files app either. So, there’s no way to delete a folder I created in Outgrowth? Or a way to export only one user created preset instead of the entire user preset folder at once?

Came across this, you have to have at least one preset in the folder for the option to delete it to come up.

I have folders with presets in them I can delete presets but I don’t see how you can delete the folder as you suggest you can?

Does that not come up for you? This is the older version. Haven’t updated on my phone yet.

It didn't come up on the launched version, but let me update and see if it shows up after updating to the fresh update. Will report back afterwards.

I don't have my iPad with me at the moment, but just updated my iPhone and tried a test folder, as well as a previous test folder. They now show the "delete folder" after I updated the app. Will confirm on iPad later.

wim

@wim said:
I have one new wish.

It really bugs me that he filter cutoff knob isn't available when the filter details are open. Not being able to try different cutoff levels when adjusting envelope amount, etc. is terrible workflow.

I need to write @aqeelaadam about this one. It bothers me every time I use the app. Fix that, and add audio clipboard support, and I have not a single thing I need for this to be one of my top ten synth apps of all time.

Yay! Update released that keeps the filter cutoff knob available when the filter details are opened. Big thanks to @aqeelaadam for being so responsive. That's a big help for playability and sound design.

I love this app. If copy/paste for sample import can be implemented I will (astoundingly) have nothing further I could want. Even sampling, which surely would be a big job, I can happily live without if clipboard support is there.

Tentype

For 8 months i successfully swore off buying new synths and uninstalled 90% of what i already owned to focus entirely on 3 synths… but this one got me.

I bought it and to be honest was i little disappointed at first BUT i soon realized just how fast this thing is. With very little work it can take a sample and turn it into a very playable and unique instrument. Can it do everything all the other granulars can do? No. But i will create 100 cool sounds here for every 1 that i TRY to complete in Wavecloud, or FRMS, and it makes more interesting and varied sounds quickly with the same sample input than SW2, Quanta, or Salome IMO.

A winner 💕 Hoping for record in soon

MJKLZ

Anyone else have an issue where it doesn’t save any of the settings from the samples page along when you save or update a preset? Eg, returns to default key ranges/zone mapping, playback mode, doesn’t save sample trimming etc.

Squishy

@MJKLZ said:
Anyone else have an issue where it doesn’t save any of the settings from the samples page along when you save or update a preset? Eg, returns to default key ranges/zone mapping, playback mode, doesn’t save sample trimming etc.

Check the naming of your samples. I had issues with presets not opening correctly after saving, contacted dev, and learned that Outgrowth will automatically try and keyboard map your samples based on letter number combinations in their names (I was exporting from Koala which saved samples as A05, A07, etc). Renaming the samples fixed my issue. Your sitch sounds a bit different but it’s worth a shot. If not, reach out to the dev, he was super helpful! 👍

MJKLZ

Cheers… seems a bit better now after a restart but yes, now you mention it the samples did have letter/numbers in file names, will watch for that now thanks @Squishy

Robin2

Anyone know whether record in functionality is planned or being worked on? Where did things get left regarding that? @aqeelaadam?

wim

@Robin2 said:
Anyone know whether record in functionality is planned or being worked on? Where did things get left regarding that? @aqeelaadam?

This is the only word on the subject, on the forum anyway: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1444839/#Comment_1444839

Robin2

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:
Anyone know whether record in functionality is planned or being worked on? Where did things get left regarding that? @aqeelaadam?

This is the only word on the subject, on the forum anyway: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1444839/#Comment_1444839

Many thanks @wim. Yes, that’s the comment that was lurking in my memory (thanks for finding it). Sounds hopeful but who knows - he does imply that, if it were implemented, it’d take a while to do so maybe it’s still possible it’s coming at some point? Cheers.

wim

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:
Anyone know whether record in functionality is planned or being worked on? Where did things get left regarding that? @aqeelaadam?

This is the only word on the subject, on the forum anyway: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1444839/#Comment_1444839

Many thanks @wim. Yes, that’s the comment that was lurking in my memory (thanks for finding it). Sounds hopeful but who knows - he does imply that, if it were implemented, it’d take a while to do so maybe it’s still possible it’s coming at some point? Cheers.

I'd be happy enough if it just gets clipboard copy and paste.

Robin2

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:
Anyone know whether record in functionality is planned or being worked on? Where did things get left regarding that? @aqeelaadam?

This is the only word on the subject, on the forum anyway: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1444839/#Comment_1444839

Many thanks @wim. Yes, that’s the comment that was lurking in my memory (thanks for finding it). Sounds hopeful but who knows - he does imply that, if it were implemented, it’d take a while to do so maybe it’s still possible it’s coming at some point? Cheers.

I'd be happy enough if it just gets clipboard copy and paste.

I don’t have Cache yet, but doesn’t that allow drag and drop into Outgrowth? If all you need is copy and paste, would Cache suffice?

wim

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:
Anyone know whether record in functionality is planned or being worked on? Where did things get left regarding that? @aqeelaadam?

This is the only word on the subject, on the forum anyway: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1444839/#Comment_1444839

Many thanks @wim. Yes, that’s the comment that was lurking in my memory (thanks for finding it). Sounds hopeful but who knows - he does imply that, if it were implemented, it’d take a while to do so maybe it’s still possible it’s coming at some point? Cheers.

I'd be happy enough if it just gets clipboard copy and paste.

I don’t have Cache yet, but doesn’t that allow drag and drop into Outgrowth? If all you need is copy and paste, would Cache suffice?

That doesn't gain anything over what I can do now. I would like is to not have to save the sample to a file in order to import it into Outgrowth. With Loopy Pro I can super quickly record a one-shot, then copy to the clipboard.

Robin2

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:
Anyone know whether record in functionality is planned or being worked on? Where did things get left regarding that? @aqeelaadam?

This is the only word on the subject, on the forum anyway: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1444839/#Comment_1444839

Many thanks @wim. Yes, that’s the comment that was lurking in my memory (thanks for finding it). Sounds hopeful but who knows - he does imply that, if it were implemented, it’d take a while to do so maybe it’s still possible it’s coming at some point? Cheers.

I'd be happy enough if it just gets clipboard copy and paste.

I don’t have Cache yet, but doesn’t that allow drag and drop into Outgrowth? If all you need is copy and paste, would Cache suffice?

That doesn't gain anything over what I can do now. I would like is to not have to save the sample to a file in order to import it into Outgrowth. With Loopy Pro I can super quickly record a one-shot, then copy to the clipboard.

Ah, yes, I see what you mean now - not having to save. Still be better if you could record directly into Outgrowth though, so it was self contained, no?

wim

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:
Anyone know whether record in functionality is planned or being worked on? Where did things get left regarding that? @aqeelaadam?

This is the only word on the subject, on the forum anyway: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1444839/#Comment_1444839

Many thanks @wim. Yes, that’s the comment that was lurking in my memory (thanks for finding it). Sounds hopeful but who knows - he does imply that, if it were implemented, it’d take a while to do so maybe it’s still possible it’s coming at some point? Cheers.

I'd be happy enough if it just gets clipboard copy and paste.

I don’t have Cache yet, but doesn’t that allow drag and drop into Outgrowth? If all you need is copy and paste, would Cache suffice?

That doesn't gain anything over what I can do now. I would like is to not have to save the sample to a file in order to import it into Outgrowth. With Loopy Pro I can super quickly record a one-shot, then copy to the clipboard.

Ah, yes, I see what you mean now - not having to save. Still be better if you could record directly into Outgrowth though, so it was self contained, no?

That's a lot bigger ask. Also when you think about it, at least in the case of Loopy Pro or other host that can quickly capture audio, it's potentially not any significant time advantage. I mean, you still need to set up an FX version of the app in the right FX chain to be able to capture what you want. You still need to record the sample, potentially trim it, etc, etc., then change the setup to record something else. In my case, I can't see much actual advantage - at least not enough to justify needing to juggle two versions of the app (instrument and FX). ymmv of course.

coloringpad

The Subvert knob is what catches my attention the most.

Had an Electribe ESX where you can stack 3 effects. Well, I stacked 3 compressors amped to the max. BECAUSE the sampler knew how long my sample was, it had this crazy sizzle at the end of the tail.

Well, this Subvert knob is just like that, since it can see the whole sample and compress the end to the max. Will I get the same fierce sizzle? I dunno, but I miss my ESX for that reason.

coloringpad

And Kudos on your apps! I have a hole in my pocket right now, but the whole suite is on my list!

Gavinski

@coloringpad I can't comment on whether there's any similarity with the ESX, but that subvert knob is definitely a great feature, would like to see that in more apps.

sigma79

Do the lfos scan and also reverse scan a random slice ?

And more sound engines then Drambo wavescanner ?

wim

@sigma79 said:
Do the lfos scan and also reverse scan a random slice ?

Outgrowth doesn't do slicing. You can scan and reverse scan different regions of the sample, depending on the engine.

And more sound engines then Drambo wavescanner ?

Watch the overview video for the best possible explanation.

sigma79

@wim said:

@sigma79 said:
Do the lfos scan and also reverse scan a random slice ?

Outgrowth doesn't do slicing. You can scan and reverse scan different regions of the sample, depending on the engine.

And more sound engines then Drambo wavescanner ?

Watch the overview video for the best possible explanation.

Thanks.

Probably more smooth ( without slices )

Robin2

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:
Anyone know whether record in functionality is planned or being worked on? Where did things get left regarding that? @aqeelaadam?

This is the only word on the subject, on the forum anyway: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1444839/#Comment_1444839

Many thanks @wim. Yes, that’s the comment that was lurking in my memory (thanks for finding it). Sounds hopeful but who knows - he does imply that, if it were implemented, it’d take a while to do so maybe it’s still possible it’s coming at some point? Cheers.

I'd be happy enough if it just gets clipboard copy and paste.

I don’t have Cache yet, but doesn’t that allow drag and drop into Outgrowth? If all you need is copy and paste, would Cache suffice?

That doesn't gain anything over what I can do now. I would like is to not have to save the sample to a file in order to import it into Outgrowth. With Loopy Pro I can super quickly record a one-shot, then copy to the clipboard.

Ah, yes, I see what you mean now - not having to save. Still be better if you could record directly into Outgrowth though, so it was self contained, no?

That's a lot bigger ask. Also when you think about it, at least in the case of Loopy Pro or other host that can quickly capture audio, it's potentially not any significant time advantage. I mean, you still need to set up an FX version of the app in the right FX chain to be able to capture what you want. You still need to record the sample, potentially trim it, etc, etc., then change the setup to record something else. In my case, I can't see much actual advantage - at least not enough to justify needing to juggle two versions of the app (instrument and FX). ymmv of course.

Yeah, I definitely see your point, but it’s so dependent on which particular host you use as to how streamlined it would be in practice. Admittedly, having an AU effect version with record in would also be more, or less, streamlined depending on the host too - changing the setup to record something else, as you describe, would be very quick and easy to do in Drambo for example. I’m afraid I still think, on balance, it’d be more convenient if it had an AU effect version with record in functionality.

And, of course, I think the standalone version should allow direct sampling from the device microphone - that’s a bizarre omission to my mind.

Anyway, we’ll see what, if anything, is implemented…

Gavinski

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:

@wim said:

@Robin2 said:
Anyone know whether record in functionality is planned or being worked on? Where did things get left regarding that? @aqeelaadam?

This is the only word on the subject, on the forum anyway: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1444839/#Comment_1444839

Many thanks @wim. Yes, that’s the comment that was lurking in my memory (thanks for finding it). Sounds hopeful but who knows - he does imply that, if it were implemented, it’d take a while to do so maybe it’s still possible it’s coming at some point? Cheers.

I'd be happy enough if it just gets clipboard copy and paste.

I don’t have Cache yet, but doesn’t that allow drag and drop into Outgrowth? If all you need is copy and paste, would Cache suffice?

That doesn't gain anything over what I can do now. I would like is to not have to save the sample to a file in order to import it into Outgrowth. With Loopy Pro I can super quickly record a one-shot, then copy to the clipboard.

Ah, yes, I see what you mean now - not having to save. Still be better if you could record directly into Outgrowth though, so it was self contained, no?

That's a lot bigger ask. Also when you think about it, at least in the case of Loopy Pro or other host that can quickly capture audio, it's potentially not any significant time advantage. I mean, you still need to set up an FX version of the app in the right FX chain to be able to capture what you want. You still need to record the sample, potentially trim it, etc, etc., then change the setup to record something else. In my case, I can't see much actual advantage - at least not enough to justify needing to juggle two versions of the app (instrument and FX). ymmv of course.

Yeah, I definitely see your point, but it’s so dependent on which particular host you use as to how streamlined it would be in practice. Admittedly, having an AU effect version with record in would also be more, or less, streamlined depending on the host too - changing the setup to record something else, as you describe, would be very quick and easy to do in Drambo for example. I’m afraid I still think, on balance, it’d be more convenient if it had an AU effect version with record in functionality.

And, of course, I think the standalone version should allow direct sampling from the device microphone - that’s a bizarre omission to my mind.

Anyway, we’ll see what, if anything, is implemented…

I would love to record into this as an AUv3 effect in AUM, I'd definitely find it useful, as would many ppl.

eylvy

Does anyone have Blank For.ms Outgrowth Guit_ar presets and sample pack? If so, are the samples from the pack the same as the ones in the OG ones? I'm guessing not, judging by his demo videos, but want to clarify. Also, are the ones in the demos the only ones?

Grandbear

Update is out, @wim you'll like this one!

Robin2

@Grandbear said:
Update is out, @wim you'll like this one!

Record in! This combined with Koala’s new hosting abilities is going to be really powerful. Thank you so much for the update @aqeelaadam.