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  • So you have outboard FX working now @bedhead?

  • What's the best way to combine ica4+, icmidi4+ and ipad ?

  • edited April 2015

    What do you want to achieve @MiniDX ? Are you using them with a desktop / laptop as well or just an iPad?

  • @MusicInclusive Yes! Running a synth through FLUX:FX and recording in Ableton while I'm typing this :-)

  • I only record in the ipad (cubasis).
    I use hardware synths and samplers and a mixer.
    I want to use the icaudio4+ but i have an iconnectmidi4+ which is an essential piece of hardware in my rig since it syncs all my setup. Is it possible to connect the iconnectmidi4+ in the iconnectaudio4+ with the usb cable ?
    Also if the answer is yes, i am wondering : is it possible to connect 2 units of iconnectmidi4+ on 1 iconnectaudio4+ through usb so i could have 4+4+1 pair of midi i/o for my entire rig ?

  • @MiniDX - not sure how to accomplish that. But I'm thinking about it :-)

  • @shortbus Thanks/Damn. I should really check my junk account occasionally!

  • @MusicInclusive said:
    syrupcore - 2 iPads is on my todo list ;-) iPad -> iPad.

    Thank you! Sorry, didn't mean to harass—only meant to say that the way in which you've set it up here is the same use case I'm interested in (as opposed to, say, simply playing a synth on iPad A and recording it on iPad B).

  • edited April 2015

    @syrupcore said:
    Nice work. That's exactly what I'm looking for in a video—except to a second iPad instead of a desktop DAW.

    YES me too, i try iCA4+ first yesterday, works/sound good With Ableton Live and a ipadAir2

    the open System is cool but i have to spent more time with it.....

    and @musicinclusive did you hear something about the iOS iconfig Version?
    hope it will be ready soon....

  • Just picked one up from guitar center. Got rid of all this stuff from my studio setup and now have even more flexible routing than I did before!
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    Recorded some vocals and everything seems to be working great. The only strange thing I've noticed so far is if I have iconfig loaded and on the audio mixer panel open I get some clicks and pops from my daw (cubase) while a project is playing. As soon as I select a different panel (device info/patchbay/etc) the clicks go away. Not sure whats up but also not really a big deal.

  • edited April 2015

    Can't wait to get mine (should receive tomorrow). This should clear out some extraneous gear and cabling, and hopefully allow me to connect and charge both my iPad and iPod touch simultaneously.

    Concerned about there not being a config app for the iPad right off, though will I possibly be able configure on a PC for my 2 iOS devices, then save the config to the interface? Or will I not be able to do that properly without having both iOS devices hooked up (which I can't do since I'd need to have the PC connected to one of the ports)?

    If not, that may make it a brick for me until the iOS config app is done.

  • @otem_rellik said:
    Just picked one up from guitar center. Got rid of all this stuff from my studio setup

    That had to feel good. Can I have the red 1/4 lead then?

  • You can configure and save the config to the device itself using the PC iConfig @rad3d - no need to have anything else connected to do that. Then you can disconnect your PC and connect your two iDevices.

    No update as yet on the iOS iConfig - only that it's a work in progress.

  • @musicinclusive
    This thread is so useful and inspiring, as are your videos so thank-you. I think I have just configured my Akai EIE to play nice with the iconnect Audio then into DAW. I am a bit overwhelmed by iconfig though but looking forward to routing my guitars into iPad and out into DAW so I can get some audiobus use. I hope you are getting commission as I've ordered up a Iconnect midi too now.

  • @MusicInclusive said:
    You can configure and save the config to the device itself using the PC iConfig rad3d - no need to have anything else connected to do that. Then you can disconnect your PC and connect your two iDevices.

    No update as yet on the iOS iConfig - only that it's a work in progress.

    Perfect. Thanks for the confirmation.

  • edited April 2015

    @MiniDX said:
    I only record in the ipad (cubasis).
    I use hardware synths and samplers and a mixer.
    I want to use the icaudio4+ but i have an iconnectmidi4+ which is an essential piece of hardware in my rig since it syncs all my setup. Is it possible to connect the iconnectmidi4+ in the iconnectaudio4+ with the usb cable ?
    Also if the answer is yes, i am wondering : is it possible to connect 2 units of iconnectmidi4+ on 1 iconnectaudio4+ through usb so i could have 4+4+1 pair of midi i/o for my entire rig ?

    @MiniDX, MIDI interconnectivity only. No audio interconnectivity between two iConnects but I have been using MIDI between an iConnectMIDI4+ and iConnectAudio4+ for a few days now and it works quite well. Sorry for the thick read below. I nerded out the last couple of days trying different things. Like most things where I explore several permutations of cabling and configurations, it turned out to be more straightforward than 4 out of the 5 things I tried. It has been said that sometimes, to find something, you have to find where it isn't.

    *** DIN to DIN = Not so great. ***

    At first I started with iCM4+ MIDI Din 4 I/O to iCA4+ MIDI Din I/O. Everything worked OK but I was having some issues with iConfig keeping an connection to the iCA4+. I do not recommend this.

    *** iCM4+ USB Device Jack 3 to iCA4+ USB Host Jack = Nice and Fast ***

    It's easier to do this with the PC. The iConfig iOS app makes me blind for stuff like this.

    Before I connected the two I went to each iConnect and named the devices on the appropriate ports so my head wouldn't explode switching back and forth during this initial setup.

    Switch back to the iCM4+. Go to "Audio Info" tab on the USB Device Jack 3 (iCM4 USB D3) uncheck "Mac/PC" and "iOS" since it can't be streamed over anyway. Maybe some day they'll enable it. Save/Commit to memory.

    Disconnect your PC from your iCM4+. Connect iCM4+ USB Device Jack 3 to iCA4+ USB Host Jack. Reset the iCM4+ from the button on the front panel.

    Now connect your PC/Mac to iCA4+ on a USB device jack. I use Jack 1 since my iPad is on Jack 2. Start iConfig on the PC/Mac. Look, they're both there in the initial device selection popup now and they pop up super fast now. Switching between devices is also much faster.

    On the iCA4+ go to the "MIDI Info" tab and scroll down to the "USB Host Jack 1" section. Look at all those "Connected Device"s. Now select one of the ports in the "Reserved" drop down and then "Name" it appropriately.

    Optional: On the iCA4+ you can crank up the "Maximum number of ports to use on multi-port USB devices" ..... setting to the max 8. Not necessary if you don't have that many devices but if you want to map more crap than 4 to the iCA4+ you can. Remember even if you only have it configured for 4 on the iCA4+ you can still select and map reservations in the "Reserved" column dropdown for any of the 16 ports hosted from the iCM4+. You just have to remember what is what and name them appropriately on the iCA4+. Save/Commit to memory. Not necessary to reboot the iCA4+ but when you jack with this max setting you will need to reboot the hosted iCM4+ so it can renegotiate with the iCA4+ host jack and repopulate the list.

    Now they talk MIDI between each other. Go make some noise.

    Questions I've asked myself and you may be asking.....

    Q: Why is it faster and more reliable?
    A: I might run a trace on the USB vs MIDI communication with Microsoft Message Analyzer but I'm betting iConfig "likes" to talk to it's devices directly over USB protocols much better than anything passed through MIDI Din.

    Q: What if I want audio from iThings that are hosted on both iConnects to record to my PC/Mac DAW?
    A: Business as usual; Connect both iConnects to your DAW and route appropriately.

    Q: What if I want to stream audio between iThings that are hosted on both iConnects?
    A: You can't do it directly. Many have suggested it to iConnectivity since the announcement last year but it won't/hasn't yet happened. The solution is to setup two-way routing via PC/Mac. It's a hassle but it used to be how I used my iOS oscilloscope app on my synths.

    Q: Will iConnectivity add the ability for interconnected audio streams between two iConnect routers (Yes, routers. That's what they are)?
    A: No one knows. Honestly what they've done so far is pretty monumental already. But that would really knock the ball out of the park. It also just makes sense, in many cases, we'd want to connect these two things together and be able to stream audio between all those connected.

    Q: @MiniDx wants to host two iCM4+ on a iCA4+. Crazed Connectivity Addict or Misunderstood Genius?
    A: Yes. Same as my setup above but need a powered USB hub connected to the iCA4+ host jack to allow it to host multiple devices. You're still limited to 8 incoming ports allowed on the iCA4+ however. I also thought about an iConnect Daisy Chain (iCM4+[A] Jack 3 to iCM4+[B] Host > iCM4+[B] Jack 3 to iCA4+ Host) before I crapped myself.

    Hope this helps.

  • edited April 2015

    Can I ask those using a mac and an ipad which USB port do you use?

    The images on the back of the device and the picture description had me putting them the wrong way round the and the iconnectaudio kept resetting repeatedly.

  • I can't think of anything obvious. You probably should open a support ticket on their site. They've been very helpful to me.

  • edited April 2015

    I had some issues updating the FW with a Windows Vista machine, but was able to borrow a Windows 8 machine to get it updated. The iOS version of iConfig can't come quick enough. Still figuring things out but having two iPads connected has been fun so far.

  • @Andrew You can connect either PC/Mac or iPad to either port.

    The only issue is that if you want to update the firmware, the Mac/PC must be connected to port 1.

    There's no reason it should be constantly rebooting. Haven't experienced that. As was suggested by @KDub - submit a support ticket. It may be something specific.

  • Thanks folks. I'll submit as suggested. I posted on this and the official forum just in case I was doing something stupid...

  • @MusicInclusive I was responding to @Andrew. No problems with mine (knock on wood). Everything is working together beautifully. :)

  • What's the app you're using on the 3DS?

  • Ok not fun anymore. Anyone else getting ring modulated/crackly audio when using two iPads? Do they both need to have the same app buffer settings to share the interface?

  • @Ringleader said:
    Ok not fun anymore. Anyone else getting ring modulated/crackly audio when using two iPads? Do they both need to have the same app buffer settings to share the interface?

    I'm getting cracking/static audio after using for 20-30mins non-stop...I also keep losing connection of my midi device?

  • edited April 2015

    @Deb said:
    I'm getting cracking/static audio after using for 20-30mins non-stop...I also keep losing connection of my midi device?

    I haven't even gotten to midi yet. Doing really simple audio tests and after a few mins get horrible static.

    iPad 1 (Air 1) - iCA analog input 1 to tone stack

    iPad 2 (Air 2) - Inputs 5/6 (iPad 1 outputs) to loopy or cubasis

    So basically I am just testing recording the outputs of one iPad into the inputs of the other and it is not going well. @Musicinclusive - any tips to get this running more reliably, or should I take it up with support?

  • I'd check with support about crackle @Ringleader @Deb. Don't have an answer. Sorry.

    Also @Ringleader - what do you mean by app buffer settings in particular?

  • @MusicInclusive said:
    Also Ringleader - what do you mean by app buffer settings in particular?

    I meant if one iPad had apps running at 128 buffer and the other iPad was running at 256, if that would contribute to the crackles since they are both sharing the iCA. Just trying to figure out why the audio gets so corrupted when both are connected but then is ok when only one is connected.

  • @Ringleader - That should not matter at all no. Not in any way that I can think of. :-/ Hmmmm.

    iPad -> iPad is among the next set of videos I should be working on for iC I believe (there are 10 with them now - 7 waiting for publication) so I'll definitely check this out in short order as I am able.

  • @Deb - which iOS versions are your devices running? Just swapped my Air (ios7) out for my 5s (latest ios8 ver) and it is working better (knock on wood). This thing will take quite a bit of experimenting to get running correctly it seems.

    @MusicInclusive - thanks

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