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the issues i found (see post above) were not related to iconfig. i connected two ipads (air1, ios8.3), audiobus,
on one ipad jamup pro xt, on the other loopy hd. audio crackles appeared unexpectedly. the support advised me to increase the buffer and change the clock source but when i did this there was too much latency for my ears when playing guitar. i fiddled around with the unit about two weeks and couldn´t get rid of the crackles.
maybe someone can get into it deeper and convince me to purchase it once again.
i would be so happy if this would happen because i like all the features really.
changing the clock source fixed me crackles....I'm down to 128 buffer going strong...air2
All you guy which use iConnectMidi4+ have try to aggregate with another main pro interface?
My problem is that I own a Focusrite Saffire Pro26 as a main Audio interface and I like to know if it works well with my interface without problem or audio glitch and pops...
So far I am only using it as an audio interface. It may be a day or two before I check out the MIDI functions. I assume they will eventually get these right as they have with their existing MIDI interfaces, they have a ton of experience here. The default routing is pretty flexible and works pretty well for recording audio to either my iPad, Mac or Both. The touch pad is easy to use and is also the best documented part of the iConnectAudio4+. You can always get them back with a reset from the front panel. Took me about 2 minutes to get it going this way after I connected everything, I had read the manual before hand.
The default routings are really designed for using the iConnectAudio4+ with a DAW which is what I wan to do. If you record one instrument at a time like I do they are pretty useful. The more complex routings, the three mixers, etc. are more important for live performances or if you recording multiple instruments, including multiple MIDI instruments, at the same time. I've only dabbled in multiple MIDI stuff at the same time so I am no expert here.
Thanks for all the updates, sounds like it'll do what I want it to do for now whilst any early glitches will be fixed eventually. I'm tempted to throw money in it's general direction, but may wait a bit.
So, I did some more complete tests in my iPad 4 this evening and my conclusion is that the iCA4+ is pretty much useless with my iPad 4 running iOS 8.3 at this point in time. I focused on JamUp Pro as its my primary app on the iPad and nothing I did kept it from starting to crackle and pop minutes after I started using it. I had it connected to my Mac, but I did not start iConfig at anytime and simply used the factory defaults and the front panel controls on the iCA4+. I was also using the headphone out on the iCA4+.
Turned off everything and tried it from a reboot of the iPad and I always got the noise in under 5 minutes. When back to my old GuitarHero Cable interface via my CCK and did the same thing I did with the iCA4+ just to make sure it wasn't JamUp. Played for 2 hours with no noise. Also noticed the old interface sound sounded noticeably better than than iCA4+. Can't share to this without more tests, but I certainly came away with that impression.
Repeated this several times and set in a ticket to iConnectivity with details of how to reproduce it, we'll see what they say.
I simply can't recommend this to anyone at this point in time. I have thirty days to return it, I'll wait to see how much support I get from iConnectivity before making up my mind. I really want this to work.
Is anyone out there using the iCA4+ successfully as an audio interface with their iOS device? If so what device, OS, and apps? I am using 8.3 on my iPad 4.
I'm using my ICA4 with an iPad mini retina (running 5 synth apps) and an iPod touch 5 (running JamUp Pro). Both devices on iOS 8.3. I have 2 powered hubs in the mix and 7 external midi sources. All part of a live rig and all working smoothly right now. Had my first 3 hour rehearsal with it the other night, and no problems during that period.
Now, I have heard the crackling before, but only after I left everything running overnight and started playing with it again in the morning. Un/replugging the iPod touch fixed. So, there's something there, but haven't had a reoccurrence to warrant digging any further.
@rad3d Thanks, wonder why my iPad 4 got the noise so quick and easily. Will try some different apps tomorrow. I assume you are running the final audio from the MIDI apps out of the iPad mini to the iCA4+. Did you change any setting in the iCA4+, or are you using the factory defaults?
I guess I should take a minute to report that my ICA4+ is working flawlessly with a Windows 8.1 laptop and an iPad Air. I used iConfig a few times to get the basic setup that I wanted (didn't experience a crash during that time) and haven't run it since. I use Ableton Live and/or Bidule to route signals and manage levels. I'm running at 256 buffer, standard streaming method, and it's flawless. Admittedly, my laptop is a powerhouse built by PCAudiolabs, but I couldn't be happier with the setup.
Btw, I plug my usb hub (with 3-4 usb MIDI devices attached) directly into my laptop vs. using the hub port on the ICA4+ for various preference reasons, but I did try it that way for a while and it worked fine.
So, here's at least one more report of success.
So it seems that most problems are with pre-Air model iPad chips?
that´s exactly (exactly, exactly....) what happened to me. and i still wish that every glitch will be fixed in time.
but for now i had to return it to the dealer. so sorry...
no sir, both my ipads are air1 on 8.3.
Just FYI ran some more tests for iConnectivity this morning. Also tried to record the noise in the JamUp 8-Track, it was gone after I disconnected the iCA4+ and listened to it via headphones. It seems its in the output/headphone side of the iCA4+.
thanks..this might be helpful to adress the issue. i hope iconnectivity support is reading along this thread.
As another data point, my unit has been working well. Used iConfig on Mac to change the setup to send analog ins to the patchbay analog mixer. USB is two iOS devices (Air 1, iPhone 6) or iPad and Mac. MIDI in/out from external KB, USB MIDI from a KBoard. Analog outs to speakers and headphones. Occasional crackles, but shutting other apps and using airplane mode solves that.
Both iPad Air and iPhone 6 are on 8.3.
I've been doing the following things:
1) Running Thor/iSEM/Sunrizer as a layer with an external synth. External synth providing the MIDI input through iCA.
2) Recording the parts from above to Cubasis
3) Running external synth through iPad effects like Altispace and Aufx.
4) Ran external effects through Audiobus chain. That seems to have noticeable latency. Need to test more.
5) Using iPhone through CCK with a metronome or Spotify (with the rest of the setup above).
Once it is setup, it seems to just work. I plug in and unplug from USB often. iPad and phone just start working again with no issues.
The new save/restore works great. No iConfig hangs for me.
The only real issue is that I want the iOS iConfig to eliminate the Mac from the setup. I'm only using the Mac for setup.
I'm having no real issues with an iPad mini retina and an iPod touch 5 into my ICA4.
So, not sure that holds true.
I think I've found the problem and found a workaround for it, but more tests are needed to be sure. I was clued into the issue when I accidentally set the input level two high. Obviously I got distortion and instantly recognized the problem and lowered the input level to resolve it.
I remembered that the noise often started on a high volume note or passage. I was running the headphones at a level of the first yellow bars on the front panel. Just for the heck of it I lowered them to the last two green bars.
I was then able to play JamUp without issues for over thirty minutes before I had to go out. Previously the problem has always appeared in 7 minutes or less. This is still a bug in my eyes and I need to test more to see if this truly is the issue. I'll try it again later tonight and try to get a couple of hours of testing in before I update the ticket with this new information.
iConnectivity support has been very prompt and helpful in working through this issue, even with all my snide comments abut the manual. We exchanged several e-mails today related to this issue.
So, it seems that having the headphones set to the yellow lines (-10db according to the manual) and or above and using JamUp causes the noise to start for me. Restarting the iCA4+ and lowering the headphones output to the last green lines (-20db according to the manual) solve the problem and seems to keep it from occurring again. Using the Jam Player to play a backing track seems to accelerate the issue.
I got Bias FX last week and played it all week end with the headphones level on the iCA4+ set high and had zero problems other than becoming totally addicted to Bias FX.
The headphone volume is lower than I like, but other than that I am able to do everything I want for basic recording with iPad or Mac now. Its defiantly a keeper for me.
thanks for the investigation. i´ll give ica4+ another trial soon. it would be nice if you could add new insights at times.
This might help. I have ALL my Sub Mix/ Bussing faders at nominal/0 (double-click to set). All my Analog Input faders are at 17 for my line level synths and that give me some wiggle room to back off the volume knob on my synth(s) if it peaks without having to touch the iCA4+. I have the iCA4+ headphone monitor selected so my "knobbing" is just for headphones. The only time I use the mixer page is to maybe adjust analog out levels. Same can be said for having analog out if you're mostly using speakers.
So a good starting point is just crank your instrument line outs, go into and adjust your iCA4+ input(s), if needed, strong enough without peaking, keep mix/bus to nominal/0, adjust outputs to taste or below pain threshold
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Just FYI for others that have had a noise issue. Got a note from iConnectivity support today and they have reproduced the noise issue based on the new info I sent them on Monday. The support group is passing it on the engineering to look at. iConnectivity support has been great!
@kdub Good points, pretty similar to how I'm using mine now.
So I went ahead and bought it and yeah I'm getting crackles and pops too.
But sometimes it's ok for quite a while. For now I'm just running an Air 2 into my PC. Just unplugging my ipad from the ica and replugging it usually fixes it but eventually it comes back.
I'll submit a ticket too but will do some more experiments...
I've been waiting patiently for this to come out, and now have been following this thread for a while as well, I am perpetually traveling and have an iOS device based setup, so I'm going to wait on this purchase until the crackle issue is sorted and there is an iOS based application for the routing.
Thanks everyone for your input, it's helped me to be more discerning about my purchase so I'm not carting around something that doesn't fully function reliably yet.
Even though I've had a bit of trouble with crackling a bit, (I just plug and unplug and the problem goes away.) APART from that, however, my experience with the unit has been fantastic. Over the past year I've been experimenting with the iConnectMIDI2 audio pass-through, Audiomux, AND Music iO. But THIS unit, the iConnectAudio4 has been really remarkable for me, a mostly effortless solution that works beautifully for sending audio from my iPad to Pro Tools. I just plugged it in, and it pretty much worked from the get go. No messing with Soundflower or any of that.
Any word yet on the iOS app being updated? Want to pick one of these up next month but it looks like it won't be of use to me until the app is out.
That will be really useful when it does appear.
Despite my initial set-up crackle issues which now don't happen very much, if at all (and could just be app conflicts causing the issue, I'm not sure yet). I've been having a lot of fun with this. Two ipads into the iCA4 is a blast
My problem is that i have another main interface (Saffire Pro 26) so I need to know if it works good with another one together...
When I beta tested, I checked with 4 interfaces aggregated together @Sinapsya - an Impact Twin (FW), a 6i6, internal Mac audio and the iCA4+ without issues.
The only thing one has to ensure is that the sample rate is set to what you expect to work with. If working with iPads - the main focus here of course - then, unless you are certain that an app is properly supporting something other than 44.1/16 it is best to make sure that not only the iCA4+ is set to that, but if aggregating, all the devices in the aggregate also. That might solve some crackling issues that people may be having perhaps too.
I'm tempted to buy an iConnectMidi4+ because I really need a serious Midi Interface....but I think about mobility to have an iConnectAudio4+ and use it live on stage, plus is Midi capable too...