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Ya, I haven't tried it in Portrait yet. Need to do that.
Thanks
Yeah I enjoyed doing that one.
It's all a bit complicated, back to my UI comments earlier. If a single button is set to do several different things then it needs a rethink - either it needs good design or you need multiple buttons. As I said above I hit the wave/step screen several times trying to turn channels on, which changed the notes during my performance - and makes it pretty scary for live performance. They need the right touch and push to the top/side/whatever, and I don't always get it right when I do this. Too light a touch and they don't do anything, too firm and you end up knocking into a wave and sending your notes haywire.
BTW the switch on the right doesn't always work, and anyway I don't think swipe/drag actions are the right approach in such a cramped environment.
If you take a look at FLUX FX, they have a good way of dealing with multifunction buttons. There's a larger area which you could use for switching focus to the channel for editing, and then a smaller circle inside which could be used to switch the sound on or off. They also manage to get the effect name in their buttons, maybe if you had larger buttons it'd also be possible to display the name of the instrument being played in your app which would help users know what they're selecting.
I'm on level 3 now (at least). ;-)
Getting the hang of things quite well.
I soloed a straight HiHat that I programmed in, in a drum loop. Then I just go through all the things I can do with it (Which are many!) and then I can transfer that knowledge over to other sounds.
For me if I just build tracks I may skip the Individual in-depth-ness of each waves processing. (That's just the way I'm doing it).
Straight HiHat, tweak. Back to straight, tweak in different ways, back again, and so on.
Going back to straight (un-edited) allows new tweaks, clarity.
Plus if it (DD) decides to do a (random) random, then I will have an idea how to tweak things back, or forward.
Read upto the beginning of page 4 of the manual hehe. Need to go back to that, but the hands on has a grip on me. :-)
Genius! Deep! Inspiring! Fascinating! Geekdom!
;-)
@funjunkie27 you mentioned that you use it with Gadget? I had gadget loaded in the background and it suddenly started up when I pressed play in DD. It seems to sync very tightly but Gadget runs at double speed. I tried disconnecting from both apps but then they DD doesn't start Gadget. Ended up halving the BPM in DD but would prefer it if there was a solution. Did you experience this? Also how do you record the output of the two apps running together?
@technemedia one little thing that drives me mad is trying to change the note value in the waves panel (above phase and whatever the other one is) Could this be a block of buttons or a pair of increment, decrement buttons?
@Jocophone I plan on doing away with all sliders as I find them awkward for precision. I'll go to some sort of finger drag tool that has a better feel. Not sure why BPM is getting doubled in Gadget.
@Jocphone - I don't get any doubling in Gadget. I set DD to provide midi clock out and Gadget for ext clock, although if I want to record in Gadget, I believe it needs to be set to int clock. I just set the clock to the same bpm as is in DD. That's worked well before. To record the output of both, I set them up in separate chains in AB and feed them into a DAW that handles multiple channels on the input....Cubasis, Auria, or MiMix. In the case of the latter, I add another chain with MiMix as the input and then record into Audioshare. That's probably the least resource intensive solution.
@Jocphone, I vaguely remember reading a similar thread concerning Gadget doubling its tempo when synced to another app, I believe it was Auria. Don't quote me on it, but it all sounds familiar.
Just to add, another problem I keep having with the channel selection multi-function button I mentioned above, is that I keep accidentally editing the wrong instrument, and due to the complex nature of the app it's pretty much impossible to get things back as they were.
I also notice the undo button just seems to wipe everything I've done.
For example I wanted to edit a cymbal pattern and had this selected, but to make it easier to hear what I was doing I switched off a couple of other instruments. I then went about my business changing lots of parameters, completely unaware that I'd accidentally selected the snare drum when switching it off, and was editing this instead of the cymbal. I've done this pretty much every time I've used the app so far.
I think you really need separate edit and on/off buttons, instead of the triple function button you have at the moment, or a clearer, less clumsy option as in my suggestion in my earlier post.
Yep ^! A coulpe of times for me.
Undo - Redo.... What do they do? I have success with them (sometimes).
Let me just check the manual...
Manual snippet: .. Different Drummer first captures the current state so you can usually undo your last change by tapping the left arrow.
Usually?
@KING777 yeah I read about it too but that seems to be when you have to connect the MIDI network or whatever it is called. Bit of a mystery why it would happen only to some people. Wonder if it's because I am not running through AudioBus?
@funjunkie27 thanks, that gives me a few things to try. Hadn't thought of recording MIDI into Gadget from DD.
@monzo yeah I have edited the wrong channel many times. Also can take three attempts to unmute a channel with that slider button.
I promise to improve the Select and Toggle tech for next update...feedback received! The Undo "usually" works because I'm not sure I put the capture function before every possible change...there are so many...but most of them at least ;-) Perfection is a moving target in programming...especially when it's one guy.
Does it only go back one step? I just deleted 2 notes, it only undid 1?
Ps: your doing a grand job!
Main reason I bought this app is not only its a really amazing app, but the developer is top notch!
@Musikman4Christ, I feel the same way about my customers! DD users to me represent the very finest of the iOS app users because they tend be more open minded, knowledgeable and creative with very few exceptions. I've also found them to be very supportive and friendly as well. Cheers!
I bought it cuz it was on sale.
Well, and it looks like it could be fun, once I learn how to use it. And, I appreciate the forum visit from @technemedia
Another strange thing with DD - when I put it through Turnado (via AB), it takes over the MIDI controls for the effects, some of the Turnado knobs are activated and you can't change the positions until you select them and switch off MIDI learn. I thought this might be a Turnado related issue, but it's absolutely fine with everything else.
Any way of stopping DD from messing with the Turnado controls?
I'm not being rude or anything - but with over 8000 sales (according to XYO) couldn't you hire in some help? It wouldn't cost that much to get in a graphics/UI guy to sort out the layout and graphics (I know how much this costs as it's what I do for a living), and as well as rewarding your loyal customers with an easier to use interface it'd most likely generate more sales. It'd then free you up to concentrate on bugs and new features.
I think it's worth considering as even some of your biggest fans are struggling with the UI.
Good to see you on here though.
I believe that might be due to the panning. By default, I believe panning uses cc10. If you click on the midi icon at the bottom of the screen, you can set the panning cc per track or turn it off. Incidentally, this is very useful to have the panning wave control other midi functions, such as filters.
Thanks
I bought it at this sales. I thought it could be a advanced version of "Oscilab" app to sequence other synth by adjusting the wave for chord progressions. I hope developer can make it that friendly usage. good app!
@monzo not sure about what stats you saw but DD sales since version 1.0 nearly 3 years I think are only 1.31k units and for most of that time I had an office/studio that was $2,000/month = 24k per year! (from a previous biz, long story) and now it's down to $800 = >$8000 per year and that doesn't include Internet and insurance...so not so not exactly rolling in the DD dough. However...the possibility of investing in such a thing is still there in hopes of boosting sales. The problem is I don't just need "pretty pictures" I need organization and a very scientific and musical mindset to do a good job...not so easy to find such a designer. Maybe a kickstarter campaign is needed. P.S. I do have a day job.
@Kaikoo, Oscilab had the benefit of starting from scratch 2 years after DD was out and I like some of their UI ideas but I would never just copy another developer (and I'm not saying they did either). I have plenty of ideas for improvements...just need the time. In the mean time, let's keep our ears on the music...what really matters!
That's what a UI designer does. Plenty of them out there, and you might find someone who'd do it as part of a profit share or partnership.
Technemedia, thanks so much for you labor of love for this app and your efforts to the music community.
I really hope your app continues to bring you great income and you prosper in all you do. We appreciate having apps such as yours that get our music making juices flowing and not only that, I truly believe the benefits are beyond what you can imagine. For one, it definitely is helping prevent Alzheimer's because of the thinking involved, my son says that our brains are constantly creating new neuro paths making our brain stay healthy. A very common denominator for people getting this dreads illness is when they slow down learning and become parasitic lifestyle.
So I personally do appreciate that this app makes me think. It is not easy, which is better. It keeps you wanting to learn it more and more. Good for music, good for brain
Do thank you for all your work! One day at a time, this app will only get better, because it has an awesome developer backing it up!
In one of my earlier post I said it was like a 'Puzzle/Mystery game' add 'Adventure' to that.
On page six (out of 20) of the manual by the way. :-) hehe
Not sure what level I have reached but over the new-user stage!
Hi @technemedia thanks for sharing. I guess those xyo figures aren't accurate at all then. I wonder how they get those figures....
I'm a designer/artist animator etc etc and so can appreciate how difficult it is to get your particular interface right. I've just started using DD on an Air2 from a mini 2 and the increase in screen size certainly helps.....Good luck with the developments you have a great app there.
Btw please can you add dropbox support and itunes filesharing support for all the wavesets/presets and snapshots? Thanks.
I'm slow man...you're on a roll. Me jealous.
Where is the manual so ican save it on my phone.
Here : http://www.technemedia.com/drummer/DD_Guide.pdf
Was just searching for that.
I downloaded it to Good reader.
@Musikman4Christ, enjoy!
I'm still struggling with this. I created a really good pattern, so stopped and saved it. When I hit the play button (I didn't change anything, or close the pattern or the app) the rhythm had changed. Tried reloading the pattern via the version I'd saved and it still sounded different. Same instruments, some of the patterns were the same but some channels had lost the changes I'd made earlier - it seems that by saving the file I lost a whole bunch of edits I'd made.
Is anyone else having issues or do I need to re-download this?
At times, I'll hear some differences after stopping/restarting, but usually it's because I've made a lot of changes and things have gotten out of sync along the way. Restarting it actually clears it up, and its rare that the prior rhythm was better than how it changes with the restart.
Which iPad are you using? I'm on an iPad4 and mini retina, both on iOS 8.3. Also, do you have access to another iPad? It could be good to see if you're seeing the same problem across two different iPads. If not, I think it might be a good idea for you to reinstall.
@monzo, make sure as you work on a preset that you regularly stop and start it to make sure it starts how you want. Remember as the waves play and you make adjustments, they are further and further from the start and some cycles can be quite drawn out and the interactions of the waves are often very complex. Think of playing a long synth sound drone that has a certain attack but you start messing with knobs and add resonance and save it as a patch but then the attack no longer sounds right. But most people re-trigger synth sounds to test them before saving and this is the musical equivalent. Hope that makes sense. I am considering adding the current play point into the preset to avoid this but I'd need an option for that.
So you may be hearing it 5 minutes into playing which may not sound like the zero point, which is where waves start from when you load and play them or hit play. If you are in Grid Mode, then it will always be what you hear is what you get, but wave mode is a different animal. @funjunkie27 is right too, that waves can even get out of sync when you start messing with beat values, quantize and other params while playing so good you proceed carefully when crafting a performance bit so you know what you have. Unlike a synth sound, this is often 8 tracks of music with 100s of parameters governing each track so it's a lot to keep synced all generated in real-time.