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Oh great, hope it's an easy fix, thanks
@Flo26 - Nice Groove. Is that just DD?
Lol
I had to give DD the weekend off. Will get back to it soon..
I've tried using DD on a few tracks now, and noticed another issue - the tempo seems iffy. I've tried this in GarageBand and Auria, with everything set at the same tempo, and it drifts out of time. I tested it against the metronome in GB and it stayed in sync, but after recording a few tracks first it drifts off, it seems particularly bad recording into Auria via AB. Weird, and annoying. Anyone else noticed this?
I haven't, but I have t tried that combo either. I don't have GB installed due to space constraints. How are you setup for clocking? I don't recall the clocking options in GB, but DD can output clock or receive it. I don't recall how it syncs with Auria as the master, but if it does, that might be your best bet. Also, DD does sync well with MidiBus, so you might want to use that as the master, if you have it, and if GB and Auria will sync to that.
Thanks @funjunkie27, it could be a clocking thing as I know bugger all about this. I didn't think it'd be an issue though as I'm just recording audio from DD into Auria, not MIDI. Probably worth trying to record it into Audioshare first and then import the file into Auria, see of that works.
I just tested DD with Auria supplying the clock and it worked well, but AS should do the trick too.
@monzo - It's useful to use Auria, even if you're only recording audio from DD, since the transport in Auria will control DD. Here's an example of Auria clocking DD and FM4 and capturing the audio of both through AB....
That was great @funjunkie27.
I don't know how you do it. By that I mean I don't know how you get anything useful done in Different Drummer!
I was trying to create a little percussion track. Nothing too taxing, have created probably 50 or so sequences with DD since I bought it so I'm not new to this app. On going to save the track I press the folder track thinking I will be tidy and crash back to the home screen. Going back, luckily my sequence is still there and I have a folder called untitled. I see no way delete this folder so I enter a name into the input box at the top of this dialog and I can create a folder. So I try to save a named sequence in the folder. Crash to home screen. I try several different names. Same result. Nothing saved. I try to save a named sequence in the root. Same crash. In desperation I hit the snapshot button. Success! So now I can rename and move the file into my folder with no problems.
Sorry about that drawn out list of actions but I'm curious how you put up with this and keep working?!
And @technemedia please stop trying to squeeze everything into one screen. Different Drummer is too complex an app for that! By launching a larger dialog for file management you would have the room to make a usable interface.
It really gets frustrating when you think you might lose something you have worked on for the last hour or so, especially when DD provides such great output.
Rant over. Please carry on..
Thanks @Jocphone. I have seen the crash to home screen on occasion. It seems to occur when I try to save a composition into a newly created folder. I've never seen it create an untitled folder in the process though. In those instances, I managed to save the composition into the root folder, then move it to the desired folder.
I agree that the app's evolved complexity leaves it needing more real estate. I've had that discussion with Peter (dev) already...in fact, I believe he brought up the topic. I think there are many instances when the control area and visualizer can be repurposed, similar to how the visualizer is changed when you setup progressions. I think that would help in expanding the control panel (ABA, Automation, Instrument Selection, etc.) for most of the functions available.
I understand an update is in queue, but I don't see the crashing while saving being addressed.
Submitted—3.3.2:
Fixed crash bug in sound preview
Fixed glitching on Saw Waves and elsewhere
Fixed bug that could crash when randomizing
Fixed bug that cause display lagging when returning to app
More reliable sync of rhythm display with what's playing
Changed Wave Selectors to toggle when same wave selected
Added Solo button where toggle switch used to be
Progression button lights up when progression active
Made color coding in Wave area a little more prominent
After abandoning this I thought I'd give it another go tonight - quickly recorded a Borderlands thing and thought I'd add some bongos from DD on a new Auria track.
When I first loaded it into AB it let of a blast of noise that hurt my ears, then I could get no sound out if it until I reloaded it. Got a rhythm going and loaded FLUX, and the DD MIDI control made FLUX go haywire and everything crashed. Quit everything, reloaded them all, disabled MIDI from DD and tried again. Three times. Each time FLUX would start to distort horribly, and when switching back to DD saw it had froze up.
After 45 minutes of fannying around gave up and loaded Nave via FLUX instead without any issues at all.
I think it's fair to say this is the most disappointing app I've bought in a very long time.
Yeah Different Drummer has rarely given me any issues. I used it last night for over 2 hours and it was fine (Air 1, iOS 8.3). It's learning curve is a bit steeper than a lot of other apps, but it's worth it.
I'm not trying to do anything special - all I did was load a beat and press the play button. I'll try a reboot.
Ok, worked after another reboot - Cribbins knows why. By the way I was recording into Auria.
Don't know why Apple is taking so long to Review the new version...fixed some serious performance issues and submitted it over a week ago. Used to take 5 days. One thing to note since DD is a real-time generator it records best in its own self (with fewer apps running) and then you can export the result via AudioShare to other apps. Once you have lots of other apps hitting the same CPU the real-time generation can get compromised...less so in the new version. Until then, avoid the Sawtooth wave shapes as they are the biggest culprit. Hang in there for 3.3.2. Cheers!
No problem here with DD and Flux on mini retina or iPad4. I haven't tried that combo into Auria though, but the three combined must be pretty resource intensive, particularly on certain Flux/Auria settings.
I think that's the thing - it's adding Auria into the mix that seems to have maxed it out - which is ridiculous because I've run 10 apps at once before - and recorded into Auria at the same time with no problems.
There are so many reports of Auria misbehaving with other apps and/or monopolizing resources that I've been dissuaded from even looking at it, despite its well-known merits.
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Auria's not the problem - I can run tons of apps into it at once without a glitch, in this instance DD is causing the problem - as the developer has confirmed it's best used in standalone.
Auria does have a heap of irritating habits, such as having to fiddle with the 'input matrix' nearly every time I connect to Audiobus, but once you get used to it's stupid ways you can use it's power to good effect. It's still worth having if you want to record and mix on the iPad.
I just recorded a DD sequence into Auria, through AB, with Flux in the effects slot, without any problem or glitching. I'm on a mini retina.
I think it's optimal to run in stand alone mode, as is easy to imagine, but I've run it in many different combinations mostly without a hitch. I've frequently used it with AS, Cubasis, MTS, bs-16i, Sampletank, SoundCanvas, etc. and with a slew of different effects.
That's great, but I did have an issue with it, and I had to reboot before it'd work. It could be the crash after it took over FLUX's MIDI caused a cache issue, I don't know but I do know it's added to a growing list of problems I've had when using the thing.
Whether it's a random issue or not, when you're in full creative flow and have to stop and spend 45 minutes rebooting and faffing around because an app has frozen up or crashed, it takes all the fun out of making music. Instead of a nice end to the evening after a hard days work, I went to bed with a cob on me.
I'm deleting this app because every time I use it, it throws a spanner in the works and annoys me. I know you love it, but until the developer fixes the bugs this one's relocated to the trash.
I REALLY like playing with DD's waves. This app is fun, but I have a bug that annoys me a lot. When I save waves sets, the midi configuration for each "track" isn't saved. So, everytime I load a waves set I need to fix the midi configuration again and again... I hope this will be fixed in the upcoming update
Lol...@monzo, I get that that could be frustrating. I'm amused at the thought of Flux being driven by DD midi though....that could lead to disruptions throughout the cosmos, black holes being spawned, and the like.
@Gratouilli - are you referring to the per track or global midi settings? I don't recall exactly, but I think the per track settings are saved.
It seemed to play up when I switched on the FLUX sequencer - I guess DD tried to take control and the two had a wrestling match that no-one won. There are worse things in life though, I've just been cleaning the bathroom...
Hehe. Let's see how long you will be able to resist Auria Pro. :-)
(Any excuse for me to talk about it, I'll take it), lol
DD. I hope when Apple put the update through it sorts the major stuff out. I haven't used it much yet... So many things/apps.
I'm having Fun! :-)
The update has just arrived
Updated!
The first one on the list which I spoke about has been sorted. Good stuff/listening. I will play with this more now.
@monzo, hope you get a better play out of it (that's if you re-download).
Nice one Dev some good fixes and additions there.. :-)
Hope they do the trick!
Encouraging. Hope you enjoy 3.3.2. Let me know what you find.
:-) now I'm able to play the piano icon instrument, I hear some may need a little editing. Including but not only, some of the basses have a click at the end. And some sounds drop off far too early. But I'm glad to be able to play them finally :-)
Take my info as constructive! Keep up the good work and liaisoning with the app users.
I'm yet to go deep into this app to let you know my findings...