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Petition for Korg re gadget?

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  • Having a built in flexible 'Sampler & Synthesis' is indeed very tempting and very high on my list.
    Most of the 'code' is already there in the other Gadgets (Think iM1/Darwin with custom samples).

    If or when Gadget gets sampling the sample-management needs an overhaul too (folder support, renaming, moving, deleting and exporting samples etc.) and 'sample sharing' between Gadgets would also be a welcome addition as this would open up a lot of possibilities (User samples in Kiev, Amsterdam, Marseille, London, AbuDhabi, Bilbao etc.).

    If or when 'audio-tracks' arrive I'd also love to see a pure Midi/IAA-Gadget to control external synths or apps, these could then be recorded back to the audio-tracks.

    As long as it's quality implementation i have no problems with IAPs, but a 'trial time-out' would be a welcome addition.

  • edited June 2015

    +1 to @djjuniorpops and @Tritonman

    I really think these are priorities right now... longer sample lengths kind of being a compromise while they work on audio tracks :)...

  • I would like to add: a proper way to BACKUP.All my presets for example...

  • Great idea!!

    @moonstring said:
    How about the ability to change scenes row color, like so. And to be able to label them. When you're working with 30 scenes or more, it's hard to keep track and to know which is which.

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    My worry is that if it's a massive list of different opinions …

    That’s a very good point. We need a massive list of the same opinion.

  • To be honest, the single most important number one right at the top of any list, highest priority, why isn’t it already done improvement is:

    undo

    Proper multiple-step-backward, history style undo. I never want to have done something that I can’t undo, and I never want to have done something incorrect and then done something else to try and correct it but which didn’t work, and therefore have two incorrect things stuck in there.

  • @Crabman said:
    I would like to add: a proper way to BACKUP.All my presets for example...

    Actually, if we are going to go bothering Korg I would like to be able to save and load songs from DropBox.

    @u0421793 said:
    To be honest, the single most important number one right at the top of any list, highest priority, why isn’t it already done improvement is:

    undo

    ..and this. Although I do manage without it, it can be a bit annoying.

    Other than those, please make more Gadgets to sell to me.

  • @SpookyZoo said:
    I sent Korg a Tweet yesterday linking to the thread here discussing Korg's midi.

    They're korg_iapps

    No reply as yet.

    Maybe a few more might help. :)

    @SpookyZoo: korg_iapps re: Gadget App (Midi). A lot of people feel this way, any improvements on roadmap? http://forum.audiob.us/discussion/9174/gadget-accepting-midi-ccs-on-all-channels

    Well, I've had a discussion with @Korg_iapps about what time they should tweet their Japanese "good mornings" tweets. I live in Sweden, basically evening here when it's morning over there. Can't have that. So we discussed this very important issue, ending w/ them doing one morning tweet on my timezone, then...they went quiet (dunno what happened, maybe the CEO ninja assassinated the Twitter guy). In summary, they do read and respond, at least on the things that matters.

  • edited June 2015

    Oh and yes, Korg UK is basically the only other official Korg social network account that interacts at least somewhat with the users/customers.

    (And if there is a official Canadian Korg, im just gonna take for granted that they do as well:)

  • Midi out and audio tracks are the truly essential ones for me; otherwise, Gadget remains a sketchpad (an incredibly robust one, mind you). Outboard instruments like my MicroKorg are still an important creative tool for me.

  • I'd like to propose the following requests as 'core' feature updates:

    1) Per track FX - a simple compressor and a 3 band Eq

    2) Include some kind of undo functionality

    3) @moonstring's idea to colour scenes / rename them for helping with song arrangement

    4) Some way to includs audio tracks / extend the current Abu / Bilbao gadget''s sampling time.

  • @touchconspiracy Good work/good idea.

    I have a lot to say on this subject (no!), but am going to keep it relatively short.

    I completely agree with the sentiment that we should present three ideas. This is a case where unity of direction and weight in numbers, having a single voice representing many voices, is the only viable way to leverage our group.

    We are a committed and generally well-informed independent global userbase and as such offer the opportunity of tremendous unaligned feedback.

    We cannot know if there is a Grand Plan or strategy, but more often than not with larger organizations there is less of this (and it is more changeable if not always flexible) than the outsider would know or presume.

    I think the more formalized and coherent this effort can be made to be the more effective it will be. A poll is potentially a good idea. A social media 'nag presence' may also be a good step if handled well. For now, for me:

    1. Undo functionality
    2. Sample length/audio import or recording
    3. Greater internal effect capability
  • I agree about the fx, especially having dedicated fx gadgets, but also expanding the fx inside gadgets, like the drum machines and samplers having fx per slice/sample. With side-chaining keep it simple and just have a box in certain gadgets, with a drop down menu that has the drum machines and samplers in the order they appear in the main timeline, when you press on them individually the list expands, with each kit/sample or main output as an option. Have three knobs that appear under the box when side-chain is active, attack, release and amount, or just two if you want to keep it simple, with attack and release being merged.

    Have four automation editing modes, configurable in preferences, line for how it is now with the lines (default option) curve so you can draw on the automation directly, like in pixel wave, bar which would be like the automation in dm1 and bezier without the handles maybe just manipulating the lines directly. I'd like more precise control with automation.

    If iaa/au isn't going to be supported then 3rd party gadgets would be very welcome, korg could make some wedge through licensing. Also have all the other korg apps as gadgets, could spark new sales of older korg apps. Finally I'd like to see a correlation meter on the master output.

  • My top 3 is also:

    1. AudioTracks or Longer samples (and better sample management)
    2. Channel FX/EQ
    3. Proper Undo

    It would also be great if they fixed it so you are warned if you are about to load a project over un-saved work ;-)

    But if I had to choose 3 those would it, in that order.

  • Ohh, and AudioShare support instead of that dreadful AudioCopy app ;-)

  • @Jocphone said:
    Other than those, please make more Gadgets to sell to me.
    @Jocphone said:
    Other than those, please make more Gadgets to sell to me.
    @Jocphone said:
    Other than those, please make more Gadgets to sell to me.

    [this quote feature is useless — it clearly doesn’t work]

    No! Not dropbox! I wish the apps would stop using dropbox. Dropbox is useless because it’s permanently full, and then if you dump everything from it, it fills itself again. I can’t use Dropbox, I use Box instead — it doesn’t fill up by itself (that, and also I have a 50GB in Box, but that’s just from a past Sony special offer).

  • My three favorites:

    1. Midi Out Gadget
    2. Channel FX/EQ
    3. Midi File Import
  • Haven't used it a ton recently, so I guess I didn't realize it still doesn't have MIDI out. That's annoying, though there are workarounds with the export project options it has. It is still probably my favorite sequencing grid on iOS. But...

    Until it gets audio tracks, I can't consider it a true "DAW". For guitars and vocals, this is essential. But I bet there's a good number of people with external hardware they would like to be able to record via some type of interface.

    I wouldn't even be still beating this dead horse except that part of me doubted they would ever allow for sampling with external content, and then of course they did that with Bilbao and Abu Dhabi. So audio tracks seem like they could really happen.

    Also, if Korg wants to keep making Gadgets and selling them to us, why not an acoustic/electric bass simulator, a la iFretless Bass, added as a $10 Gadget add-on. May be large with samples, but the combination of that with audio tracks and Bilbao and this thing becomes instantly attractive to guitar track production.

  • edited June 2015

    My top three:

    1 Audio tracks/longer samples

    2 Fx per channel

    3 Better file management/Audioshare support

  • Yep - my wishlist is basically audio tracks or longer sampling, and fx per track (which could be EQ, reverb, whatever).

    Lack of undo is more of a 'niggle' for me (but I'm old-school and remember a time when undo wasn't even invented)! I'd also like them to sort out the limiter which seems to give out a very strange phazed 'whine' on low frequencies.

    But agree - keep it to three and get everyone to harass them. Once we get those 3, we can harass them over the next 3. :o)

  • edited June 2015

    DropBox, Box, Google Drive, iCloud whatever. I wish developers would implement what's been 'iOS Standard' for over a year now, the iOS8+ FilePicker this way we could choose what ever service we'd like to use. iOS9 is knocking on the door and will be here in the autumn and asking for iOS 'legacy' support is like begging for 'Mac OS Classic or Windows XP' support. I think one of the biggest reasons why iOS File-Picker is still in 'idle' is because there is no support for pre iOS8 devices...

    I guess by know almost everyone here is familiar with AudioShare? So, apps implementing the iOS-Filepicker would be automatically able to import and export files from and to AudioShare or any other app that acts as an iOS-FileProvider. (Full support for iOS8+ File Picker has already been forwarded to the Gadget devs so that's a huge win).

    Adding new features to Gadget could also mean dropping support for older devices as they will no longer have the juice to run the app. Effects mix-buffers/busses and things like that eat RAM like crazy...

    For Gadget and other Korg apps to stay 'cutting edge' they needs to keep up with iOS development. (This would naturally mean support for the forthcoming AudioUnits etc.).

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    1. Undo functionality

    Yes, this. How could I forget about this. Gadget definitely needs a proper undo. To me though this is such a very basic thing to have in a big/complex application like Gadget, users shouldn't have to put together wish lists for it to happen. Even their Volcas got an undo, and that's relatively small hardware boxes with a couple of knobs and buttons. :)

  • @Peter321 said:
    Ohh, and AudioShare support instead of that dreadful AudioCopy app ;-)

    Yes, definitely !

  • edited June 2015

    I agree that, personally, undo is a niggle... I don't really notice it.

    It doesn't hold me back like the other 3 things (FX, audio tracks/samples and midi restrictions do).

    I'm glad we seem to be agreeing on limiting to 3 core 'requests' anyway.

    The trick is, once we've decided on them, to then keep banging this drum again and again and again on as many channels as possible until we get it. There's nothing like a simple message re-enforced over and over again...

  • edited June 2015

    New tweet highlighting this very thread.

    A few retweets could cause a little ripple. Who knows? :)

    @korg_iapps @KorgUK FREE & EXCELLENT FEEDBACK for you...courtesy of AUDIOBUS forum. :) http://forum.audiob.us/discussion/9190/petition-for-korg-re-gadget/p2

  • @Ivan_Dj said:
    My top three:

    1 Audio tracks/longer samples

    2 Fx per channel

    3 Better file management/Audioshare support

    • Undo
  • Yes, they were helpful about your "iM1 crisis", I remember lol

    @ChrisG said:

  • Can u start the poll then? I don't know how..

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    I agree that, personally, undo is a niggle... I don't really notice it.

    It doesn't hold me back like the other 3 things (FX, audio tracks/samples and midi restrictions do).

    I'm glad we seem to be agreeing on limiting to 3 core 'requests' anyway.

    The trick is, once we've decided on them, to then keep banging this drum again and again and again on as many channels as possible until we get it. There's nothing like a simple message re-enforced over and over again...

  • So, just checked out the vote functionality and you can ask separate 3 questions.

    So I propose at the end of the week having a vote set up for "THE BIG 3" that leads our (friendly) campaign to Korg.

    I'm happy to set this up and each question would have all the main candidates discussed in this thread. You get 3 votes for the 3 things you want to shortlist. Then we count the votes total votes for each a week later or something. I think that would work. I guess there'd be nothing to stop you voting for the same one 3 times - but never mind.

  • The "BIG 3" doesn't, by the way, mean that we can't also point Korg at a thread (this one?) with all the other good suggestions too...

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