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Really? Which page? Generally I tried to filter ideas that also had someone else agreeing...
No idea. Someone mentioned it at some point. May even have been one of the other many threads about stuff that Gadget should do. Just remember thinking that would be pretty useful. Don't worry though, you're doing a sterling job!
@solador78 has a point... they know people want this stuff.
But people really do want this stuff. I see no harm in formalising it slightly more and saying to them - look at the figures who voted for this. Might make it slightly less easy to ignore. Might not. But at least we'd have tried.
I think we should also talk about the vote on the Korg forum and invite Korg forum members to come over, join this forum, and vote if they want to. @Samu - any chance you could do this after we post the vote thread?
Admittedly they won't get a chance to influence the shortlist - but then I guess that's tough luck for not already being an audiobus forum member
Since Korg themselves have put audio tracks on the Gadget roadmap I think that particular battle is winnable too.
The only battle you're fighting is to get it on the roadmap. Get my point?
Yep - well that's the wonderful about the (semi) democratic process. I'll be voting for midi. And audio/sample length... although I fear @solador78 might have a good point about the lawyers making the restrictions...
I remember that request as well but it might been in another track. It would be a nice feature though probably for me not in the top three
But I guess now that I mention it, I'm the second one so it can go on the list
If you want to fight lawyers, you'll need Korg's suits on your side with some projected sales figures.. Maybe a formal online petition with signatures for that one issue would work better.. if the signatures are there.
I reckon that people at Korg have stopped work for the afternoon and are gathering around the monitor in the boardroom in the anticipation of the poll results.
Ha, ha... even though it's after 3pm ... OK.
That's the last one though... I'm calling last orders and closing the bar.
I'll do the vote post...
We enter parliament in order to supply ourselves, in the arsenal of democracy, with its own weapons. If democracy is so stupid as to give us free tickets and salaries for this bear's work, that is its affair. We do not come as friends, nor even as neutrals. We come as enemies. As the wolf bursts into the flock, so we come.
-Joseph Goebbels
I'm not convinced there is a legal issue with audio tracks, it's standard feature in a music app.
The problem with audio tracks is not with the app, it's with the Cloud.
If this had been uploaded to Gadget Cloud, Korg would be liable for paying royalties to Sony:
lol, where is the link to the live broadcast?
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That's my remix and i DID upload it to GadgetCloud.
As 'romantic' as it sounds, I doubt the samplers are limited for legal reasons. Guess the devs thought: what's the longest time needed for a crash/ride - 5 secs. What's the max for a 2bar loop - 10 secs.
The rest is up to SoundCloud to decide. They removed snippets I made with iVCS3 because it was similar to some dub track I never heard about :-)
Why would Korg be liable? Doesn't make sense at all.
Poll now live...
Because Korg could be considered as profiting off works that they don't own the rights to. We both know they're not, but that's not how it works. The "5 Second Rule" is their defense in court... "We went out of our way IN GOOD FAITH to cripple the ability of users to tape Wham! off the radio and upload it Gadget Cloud, therefore we should not be held liable for the actions of a few rogues."
Hearsay.
Is there some legal precedent to all this, indeed any factual basis, or is it just speculation?
How come other music apps aren't affected?
Which ones?
OK, it's speculation.
Name one app with audio tracks and a public cloud server that doesn't deal with takedown requests.
Do you even understand what Gadget Cloud is?
Sorry - not worth responding to
If you point me to some evidence to back up your assertions I'll resume the conversation.
So then no, you have no idea what Gadget Cloud is.
Oh look...
http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/6583316/soundcloud-takedown-dj-mixes-dmca-safe-harbor
http://www.completemusicupdate.com/article/soundcloud-responds-to-takedown-frustrations/
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140702/10252827760/soundcloud-has-given-universal-music-group-ability-to-directly-remove-content.shtml
http://noisey.vice.com/en_ca/blog/has-soundcloud-turned-its-back-on-its-users-in-favor-of-major-labels
https://torrentfreak.com/record-labels-can-remove-soundcoud-tracks-without-oversight-140703/
https://blog.soundcloud.com/2011/01/05/q-and-a-content-identification-system/
Pffffff.
Is there anything about the 5/10 second sample limit in there?
If not, then it's a pointless strawman argument.
My question is: is there any actual basis for saying that Korg are deliberately limiting the sample length for legal reasons.
Still waiting for your list of apps.
Look - a squirrel!
We've had the strawman, your next move is the ad hominem...
The only logical fallacy that I see is you moving the goal posts.
I asked a straightforward question:
is there any actual basis for saying that Korg are deliberately limiting the sample length for legal reasons?
That's it. I've repeated it. Not interested in the rest of the exchange.