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OK, so at 3pm UK time (that's 2pm GMT) - or there abouts - lets say no more new ideas.
I'll then set about editing most of what we have (not all, sorry) into some items to vote on.... for a BIG THREE
Ooh, just in time then. Another suggestion:
Change the name from Gadget, to Widget.
My three:
1/ Do nothing.
2/ Saving projects using the iOS8 mechanism that @Samu talks about. (with corresponding load).
3/ Don't mess it up.
Bonus No. 4: Sell us some new gadgets with new functionality, tape recorder, sampler, MIDI out, theremin, etc..
And yes, I am being serious.
Now you're just being silly...
Not at all. I like Gadget as it is and have a slight worry that it could easily turn into a big sprawling mess if Korg were to implement all this stuff. Besides, people are finding novel ways to expand Gadget with different input methods and syncing with other apps. Maybe they should leave the core Gadget as it is?
Ok, but that's the point of narrowing down to 3 things.
I agree that if they implemented all this stuff it risks being a mess.
The "silly" thing was more aimed at renaming to "widget" by the way!
But maybe that's not silly. And is an essential change that's needed.
OK...
I have edited into 14 candidates:
Multiple FX options for each and every channel (EQ, Compression, filter, delay etc. or even 3rd party effect app access)
Playable keyboard sampler Gadget
Improvements to the arrangement window (e..g naming tracks, colour coding/labeling scenes, Linear option, loop points so you don’t have to play back from bar 1)
Audio tracks (or at least much longer minimum sample import lengths)
Better MIDI implementation (multi-channel Midi In and Out, Midi Import, clock send)
Vertical zoom in the piano roll editor
Multiple undo
Better user sample management (folders, renaming, deleting, moving, exporting, resampling? user samples in other PCM gadgets, audio share integration, fix clicking of samples properly by using micro fades)
Improve playability: Optional Kaos Pads for gadgets, velocity on keys, ‘humanize’ option etc...
Tempo changes / better swing that uses the Linn (50% to 75% model)
Better project/preset management (backing up / sharing of projects and presets (e.g. to file picker, dropbox etc.) - warning you before overwriting projects)
More precise control with automation (e.g. bezier style points option)
3rd party app support via IAA then AU
Do nothing apart from maybe change the name from Gadget to Widget
I've tried to group some similar things a bit... e.g. midi or 'arrangement improvements' or 'sample management'.
Gonna draw a line in 2.5 hours time... then we can run the vote...
it will be hard to resist voting for the last item simply because it is so silly
I might need to leave it off then... this is a very serious business of course.
I also have another, but it’s not really a “fix” for any deficiency, so I shouldn’t mention it here, but I would quite fancy a generic universal keyboard/controller type of subgadget (common to all of them rather than each one having its own) that sits on top of or with existing gadgets, to override and replace their keyboards with a scale-configurable amorphous arrangement of animoog-type slider control keys, designable to be a bit like TC-11 (but obviously not as cool, as it won't be full screen). Yep, glad I didn’t mention it, it’d be a distraction.
That's basically a chaos pad, no? Already covered.
Now you've lost me
Edit: Ah gotcha, friday afternoon, slow brain
Please split this into two entries. Using audio tracks or importing large samples into Bilbao/Abu Dhabi are very different things for me. Thanks ;-)
I didn’t realise one of these was one of those. Excellent, that’s good then.
@klangsulfat
Yep, but I think for a lot of people they allow for the same result. Which I think is why a lot of people have put them together in the above.
Obviously audio tracks would be better, but that's a massive change. So in the meantime just increasing audio sample length would be a reasonable compromise.
Therefore I think they sit together - and we have 2 other requests left.
Am I too late?
1 channel FX, (EQ, Compression most important)
2 Undo
3 FX gadgets would be cool, especially if they can be automated
From reading this thread, it's obvious that channel FX's has the most requests. I hope they implement at least that one thing.
Agreed.
FYI: Undo is a massive pain in the ass for developers. Do you want to wait several seconds for Gadget to save the project after every action? If not, the devs will have to come-up with complicated systems for recalling many different types of actions and I wouldn't be surprised if performance takes a big hit (and the filesize footprint grows), especially if everyone gets their audio tracks wish. I should be surprised that no one here has ever used the broken Swing function, but I'm really not.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 I can see why you've put IAA and AU together but personally I don't think IAA would be a good thing...upset the workflow in one app of Gadget (not saying I wouldn't use IAA it was there though, I just don't think they'd even consider it)
I'd prefer them to leave IAA and put all their time into AU if it was an option which would keep the Gadget experience but with new plugins and instruments.
just my 2c though, don't mind if it's grouped like that
@carbot - yeah. Tbh I'm not voting for that one because AU is for the future. You can hardly demand they implement something that doesn't exist yet.
I just felt it ought to get a mention but if lots of people think I should just leave that one off I will.
If the petition includes nothing but items that they've already thought of (audio tracks, etc.), the list is going to get tossed in 2.5 seconds.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 I seem to remember someone asking for program changes between scenes. So that you could use one track/lane with different sounds.
Not sure about that, if this comes over as a focused request list from a knowledgeable bunch of iOS music-heads, it may well have some impact. Besides, what's the option - do nothing ?
true, but the future comes pretty fast. iOS 9 is just around the corner and it's (supposedly) easy to port existing AU plugins (but I'm not a programmer so what do I know)
I'm hoping that at the very least even if they don't want to let you use third party plugins this new architecture might mean proper Gadgets of full iM1 and new Gadgets of Korg apps like iMS-20.
iMs-20 in Gadget would be great
Be my guest. Be the 5000th person to request audio tracks, channel strips, and undo and don't worry about drowning out all of the legitimate bug fix requests.
I don't think any of these requests are 'illegitimate', as such. Presumably the dev team are looking at new developing features as well as addressing bug fix requests ?
Sigh.
I don't particularly want them to change core Gadget myself, but 5000 requests for features are no less legitimate than what you would prioritize. Korg have their own forum and a reasonably loyal customerbase. I think they can handle the noise and I'm sure they would rather people were discussing their products than not.
Then pick a battle you can win... like MIDI.