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Patterning App Out Now!!! A New Standard is Set! PURE AWESOMENESS!!!!

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  • edited November 2015

    This app is definitely worthy of much praise and it is very easy to use. Will it be possible to change kits for each section of song ? It is my main desire for this app or at least room for more sample selections in a kit.

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Or this... Made with just one single drum sample in Gadget - with Patterning triggering it and modulating it's pitch and reverb semi randomly in 16ths and quarters respectively. This pattern took me about 1 minute to come up with.

    (I stuck a 4:4 kick drum in for fun half way through just to show the timing is good).

    I promise I'll stop now. I really will. I'm just a bit blown away by the possibilities with this type of thing and it's been one of those days :).

    Hey Matt, if it's not too much trouble, could you take a screenshot of the screen where you set up all the MIDI stuff within Patterning? I might just buy this app based on what you've done with this and the previous example. Songs relying purely on drums for the rhythmic aspect sound dated to me nowadays. It's cool when some other melodic line or instrument has a rhythmic quality where the drums merely support that rhythmic that get me excited and what you did with Patterning accomplishes this. Thanks in advance!!

  • edited November 2015

    Hi @gjcyrus,

    I got a new iPad recently and I'm pretty sure that for some reason moving to it meant all my patterns in Patterning got lost (not that I was that bothered about this).

    Essentially I did this:

    • using MidiFlow I mapped velocity to midi ccs for 2 drums coming out of Patterning. So two of the patterning circles became kind of rhythmic midi cc controls rather than drum notes.

    • in Gadget I made sure that those two midi ccs mapped to the pitch of a sample pad in Bilbao and the amount of reverb FX in Bilbao.

    • I then used a third drum instrument circle in Patterning to just send normal hits to the sample pad in Bilbao in Gadget. Ie just firing off that sample in gadget.

    The result is that the sample gets fired off but it sounds different each time because the pitch and reverb is constantly moving around, but rhymically because it's being changed in 16th or 8th steps (due to Patterning's nice circle interface)

  • what do you guys think about this, right now all of the circles in patterning have the same divisions within a paticular sound.... I wish you could have different circle divisions for all of the parameters like pitch etc...?
    right now to get the same affect you have to load up the same sample in more than one slot.

  • @kobamoto said:
    what do you guys think about this, right now all of the circles in patterning have the same divisions within a paticular sound.... I wish you could have different circle divisions for all of the parameters like pitch etc...?
    right now to get the same affect you have to load up the same sample in more than one slot.

    ^ this.

    @ benkamen....yup this is very, very cool indeed. interesting grooves just fall out of this thing.

    ......somewhere in the future could the automation lane be given independent step length like the other tracks? also have you considered an option to detach a track's autorotation from it's automation lanes so one moves constantly against and not with the other?

    this along with constrain to scale, midi cc out, midi assignable controls for play direction and ability to map loop points and scrub them within each track would make this one fine live sequencer too...

  • @kobamoto/@zeropoint That's what i was saying, make all the lanes independent.

  • oops sorry MusikMachine !!! didn't see that but yeah this is almost the most important feature I've heard of for patterning,

  • @musikmachine....sorry dude, read many pages but missed your post. yup, this would be next level.....

  • Wow, this indeed is quite similar in several respects to Patterning. The prictag for sure is way different! :)

  • @kobamoto said:
    oops sorry MusikMachine !!! didn't see that but yeah this is almost the most important feature I've heard of for patterning,

    @zeropoint said:

    @musikmachine....sorry dude, read many pages but missed your post. yup, this would be next level.....

    Yeah that kinda automation takes a bit of thought and setting up in a DAW but Patterning is so intuitive it wou'd be great to be able to send out different CCs at different intervals or automate pitch over several bars on a sample that's 3 steps long. :)

  • edited November 2015

    there are some similarities, but it's no surprise that it is much more advanced. App developers and users should watch some of the many demo videos of the 252e. It's a very interesting module.

    Somehow I like the simplicity of Patterning. You get results quickly. But of course it could profit from more options, and I'm quite sure we will see more sequencers or trigger generators like this.

    Advanced and exotic sequencers like Trigger Riot (http://www.tiptopaudio.com/riot.php) or René (http://www.makenoisemusic.com/rene.shtml) are also interesting, but they have not a very good graphical representation of what you have programmed. The circle design in the middle appears to me one of the best ways to display complex patterns.

  • You just made my head spin...like the exorcist lol. I only just started using other apps to control gadget last week. Tried patterning with some some of the gadget synths and it was barrels of fun lol

    Ill have to try what you've mentioned. I have midiflow as well but never really got into using it. Sounds pretty cool and hopefully it won't be too difficult to set up.

    Cheers

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    Essentially I did this:

    • using MidiFlow I mapped velocity to midi ccs for 2 drums coming out of Patterning. So two of the patterning circles became kind of rhythmic midi cc controls rather than drum notes.

    • in Gadget I made sure that those two midi ccs mapped to the pitch of a sample pad in Bilbao and the amount of reverb FX in Bilbao.

    • I then used a third drum instrument circle in Patterning to just send normal hits to the sample pad in Bilbao in Gadget. Ie just firing off that sample in gadget.

    The result is that the sample gets fired off but it sounds different each time because the pitch and reverb is constantly moving around, but rhymically because it's being changed in 16th or 8th steps (due to Patterning's nice circle interface)

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    Essentially I did this:

    • using MidiFlow I mapped velocity to midi ccs for 2 drums coming out of Patterning. So two of the patterning circles became kind of rhythmic midi cc controls rather than drum notes.

    • in Gadget I made sure that those two midi ccs mapped to the pitch of a sample pad in Bilbao and the amount of reverb FX in Bilbao.

    • I then used a third drum instrument circle in Patterning to just send normal hits to the sample pad in Bilbao in Gadget. Ie just firing off that sample in gadget.

    The result is that the sample gets fired off but it sounds different each time because the pitch and reverb is constantly moving around, but rhymically because it's being changed in 16th or 8th steps (due to Patterning's nice circle interface)

    Very clever.

    The complexity of this type of programming of Patterning (as a MIDI trigger/mapper) for other instruments is superior. Having the circles of your CC programs shift at different intervals backwards and forwards came to mind to add even further complexity. Inspiring idea Fletcher.

  • Once you get your head round the idea of remapping velocity to midi ccs (using MidiFlow)... other interesting ideas for Patterning are the fact that you could use it to rhythmically control anything at all...

    It could, for example - be hooked up to midi controlled lights and create a really interesting rhythmic light show, i'm sure.

    Or it could be hooked into the vidibox app and be used to rhythmically cut between video clips...

    You've always been able to do this - it's just that Patterning's interface gives you a really nice way of doing this in rhythmically interesting ways.

  • That Buchla has 3 independent clock outputs...interesting. This has made me go look at crazy sequencers:

    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar07/articles/octopus.htm

    http://www.sequentix.com/cirklon.htm

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Once you get your head round the idea of remapping velocity to midi ccs (using MidiFlow)... other interesting ideas for Patterning are the fact that you could use it to rhythmically control anything at all...

    It could, for example - be hooked up to midi controlled lights and create a really interesting rhythmic light show, i'm sure.

    Or it could be hooked into the vidibox app and be used to rhythmically cut between video clips...

    You've always been able to do this - it's just that Patterning's interface gives you a really nice way of doing this in rhythmically interesting ways.

    Isn't this what Different Drummer with the new zenterface gives you, without having to do the remapping?

  • Ahh but think of the fun of getting tangled up in all those cables.

    @jooga1972 said:

    Wow, this indeed is quite similar in several respects to Patterning. The prictag for sure is way different! :)

  • HI, I´m trying to sync patterning to the Arturia beatstep Pro but when I hit play on BSpro, the clock goes wrong in patterning for a couple of seconds, and then it syncs to the right tempo. Then I tried syncing to cubase in the DAW and still the same behaviour. Then I tried other apps (DM-1, MS20,...) and all syncs instant and follow tempo changes, no problem. I forgot, patterning is absolutely useles following tempo changes. Is an update comming??

  • I think I found this too.

    Takes a bar or two to get going.

  • Thats it, and render it unusable because you can´t "play" a song if patterning is playing from the begining... Also no tempo changes...

  • edited November 2015

    Yah i just discovered this today too syncing to a pc daw. doesnt effect me much with how i record but i imagine for live it is a bit of a hiccup.

    I imagine this app is a perfect candidate for the ableton link thing so i assume all will be well in time... ...

    @klinik said:
    HI, I´m trying to sync patterning to the Arturia beatstep Pro but when I hit play on BSpro, the clock goes wrong in patterning for a couple of seconds, and then it syncs to the right tempo. Then I tried syncing to cubase in the DAW and still the same behaviour. Then I tried other apps (DM-1, MS20,...) and all syncs instant and follow tempo changes, no problem. I forgot, patterning is absolutely useles following tempo changes. Is an update comming??

  • A great app needs no speak, not so great will fade away!

  • So at this point in time what is the best way of exporting a ready loop out of patterning? I've exported to Dropbox but once imported into audioshare the format didn't get recognised!

  • edited November 2015

    Currently all one can do is record via audiobus or inter app audio. I am so looking forward to multitrack export, if and when it happens.

    @supadom said:
    So at this point in time what is the best way of exporting a ready loop out of patterning? I've exported to Dropbox but once imported into audioshare the format didn't get recognised!

  • i hope it gets here before christmas!

  • edited November 2015

    @AudioGus said:
    Currently all one can do is record via audiobus or inter app audio. I am so looking forward to multitrack export, if and when it happens.

    @supadom said:
    So at this point in time what is the best way of exporting a ready loop out of patterning? I've exported to Dropbox but once imported into audioshare the format didn't get recognised!

    It has to be said for an app so revolutionary in some aspects, its out ball is very substandard.

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