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LK - for Ableton Live & Midi by Imaginando - AUv3 Clip Launcher Finally Available in AUM!!

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  • @paikan777 said:

    @xglax said:
    You're right, we've already spotted the problem. A fix will be out in the next beta!

    Nice thank you Xglax
    I don't think it is wanted , with clip actions you can trigger several clips on the same track

    Thought maybe you should know :)

    :smiley:

    Thanks for reporting. It is indeed a bug and the next beta will have a fix for that.

  • @xglax said:

    @gregsmith said:
    I think I've just found another small bug. I have a scene which is 8 bars long, but it's playing for 8 bars + 1 beat before moving onto the next scene.

    Is this bug happening with scene follow actions? I just make a test with an 8 bar scene, and the next one was triggered at the end of the 8th bar without adding any beat

    I meant to update this thread - I opened the project again last night and it was fine.

    I do quite a lot on AirPods and switching to Bluetooth seems to cause these sorts of problems. Some projects always need the buffer size changing for instance or they play out of time.

  • edited October 2021

    @xglax said:

    Hi , trying quiclky last beta update :)
    = clip actions testing

    When I launch a clip on track 1 with actions in it :
    arm track 4
    trigger clip 1 on track 4
    , "global stop" doesnt work , and instead relaunches all that was playing / like a global play "
    If I then launch another scene with no clip with clip actions in it , "stop" works again

    Edit 2 ---> not unarming previous track
    If clip action = on track 1 , and i tell it to arm track 4 , it does , without unarming track 1 :)

    Edit 3 --> scene action
    if on scene 4 i tell a clip to launch scene 3 , it always launches scene 1 = because it doesnt remember the scene number
    once the clip actions are closed

    Edit 4 ---> number of actions
    I don't know if it is wanted ? I can not add more than 2 actions in a clip

    One thing I had seen and forgotten to tell you , little one : I always use "start recording on scene launch"
    When I open the app , even if already checked from last session/ doesnt work first : I have to simply touch the settings wheel " where it is already "on" , and close it . Then it works fine

  • @paikan777 said:

    @xglax said:

    Hi , trying quiclky last beta update :)
    = clip actions testing

    When I launch a clip on track 1 with actions in it :
    arm track 4
    trigger clip 1 on track 4
    , "global stop" doesnt work , and instead relaunches all that was playing / like a global play "
    If I then launch another scene with no clip with clip actions in it , "stop" works again

    You're right, will check what is going on!

    Edit 2 ---> not unarming previous track
    If clip action = on track 1 , and i tell it to arm track 4 , it does , without unarming track 1 :)

    This is because of a bug you reported. Previously, it wasn't possible to arm multiple track at once, because each arm action had exclusivity on the other tracks. Now, each arm action isn't exclusive, it will simply arm a track without unarming the other ones. You must use the unarm action on the tracks you want when arming new ones.

    Edit 3 --> scene action
    if on scene 4 i tell a clip to launch scene 3 , it always launches scene 1 = because it doesnt remember the scene number
    once the clip actions are closed

    You're right, but I think this only happens when you close and open the project. Will also check this.

    Edit 4 ---> number of actions
    I don't know if it is wanted ? I can not add more than 2 actions in a clip

    You can add as much actions you want. Simply swipe down to see the ones that aren't being displayed.

    One thing I had seen and forgotten to tell you , little one : I always use "start recording on scene launch"
    When I open the app , even if already checked from last session/ doesnt work first : I have to simply touch the settings wheel " where it is already "on" , and close it . Then it works fine

    Will also check what is going on!

    Thanks for reporting these!

  • @xglax said:

    Hi :) !
    "Now, each arm action isn't exclusive" , makes sense and nicely done then , so cool !

    "You can add as much actions you want." , oh okay , with the visual I expected to see the action added without scrolling , experimenting with an iphone 6s i indeed needed to scroll thank you :)

  • @sinosoidal, @xglax Thanks for fixing the Apple Pencil editing, really essential for me as I do everything using the Pencil.
    I do, however still get these totally greyed out screens and it only happens to LK but I suspect that AUM has some part in it happening (?). I also got, and this has been going on for long hanged tones from almost any synth when stopping a track/session. I have to drag the synth to the side to disconnect and then back and the sound stops, might this also be an issue with AUM? I don't know as I only use LK in AUM.
    Do you want a video or do you know what I'm talking about? I mean the hanging sounds.
    I have yet to reproduce the greyed out screens with intention.

  • @Pxlhg said:
    @sinosoidal, @xglax Thanks for fixing the Apple Pencil editing, really essential for me as I do everything using the Pencil.
    I do, however still get these totally greyed out screens and it only happens to LK but I suspect that AUM has some part in it happening (?). I also got, and this has been going on for long hanged tones from almost any synth when stopping a track/session. I have to drag the synth to the side to disconnect and then back and the sound stops, might this also be an issue with AUM? I don't know as I only use LK in AUM.
    Do you want a video or do you know what I'm talking about? I mean the hanging sounds.
    I have yet to reproduce the greyed out screens with intention.

    Is anyone else having this kind of issues? What device and iOS version do you have?

  • @tahiche -> new LK beta (build 260) adds icon to clips that have actions.

    @paikan777 -> This new build also fixes the issues you had reported

  • @xglax said:
    @tahiche -> new LK beta (build 260) adds icon to clips that have actions.

    very useful for the icon to clips !! ( and nice proposition tahiche )

    @paikan777 -> This new build also fixes the issues you had reported

    Indeed so far so good with the testings !

    Great !
    Very nice work :blush:

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    @sinosoidal, @xglax Thanks for fixing the Apple Pencil editing, really essential for me as I do everything using the Pencil.
    I do, however still get these totally greyed out screens and it only happens to LK but I suspect that AUM has some part in it happening (?). I also got, and this has been going on for long hanged tones from almost any synth when stopping a track/session. I have to drag the synth to the side to disconnect and then back and the sound stops, might this also be an issue with AUM? I don't know as I only use LK in AUM.
    Do you want a video or do you know what I'm talking about? I mean the hanging sounds.
    I have yet to reproduce the greyed out screens with intention.

    Is anyone else having this kind of issues? What device and iOS version do you have?

    iOS 15.01 iPad Pro 2021

  • @xglax said:
    @tahiche -> new LK beta (build 260) adds icon to clips that have actions.

    @paikan777 -> This new build also fixes the issues you had reported

    Excellent and lightning fast 👍🤟🤟🤟👏👏

  • edited October 2021

    Hi , I use lk on iphone 6 s and ipad 8
    On iphone , using the last beta I had a bug , app crashed , and I lost all my projects saved locally on my iphone
    I still have a good project on ipad that I saved localy in files , transfered it to my iphone , but no success in opening it with LK

    When I want to save a project , only option I see is " local"
    Even though , after app crashed , it deleted it all
    What is the best way to save projects here ?
    ( I also connected to my profile in the app , changes nothing )

    oh , ok ... the file saved on my phone is an .als for ableton ...
    Am a bit lost here :)

  • @paikan777 said:
    Hi , I use lk on iphone 6 s and ipad 8
    On iphone , using the last beta I had a bug , app crashed , and I lost all my projects saved locally on my iphone

    Sorry to hear that

    I still have a good project on ipad that I saved localy in files , transfered it to my iphone , but no success in opening it with LK

    Was an LK project?

    When I want to save a project , only option I see is " local"
    Even though , after app crashed , it deleted it all
    What is the best way to save projects here ?

    Don't you use LK hosted in AUM for example?

    ( I also connected to my profile in the app , changes nothing )

    oh , ok ... the file saved on my phone is an .als for ableton ...
    Am a bit lost here :)

    That will only be generated if you choose to "Save As Live Set" on the save dialog

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    @sinosoidal, @xglax Thanks for fixing the Apple Pencil editing, really essential for me as I do everything using the Pencil.
    I do, however still get these totally greyed out screens and it only happens to LK but I suspect that AUM has some part in it happening (?). I also got, and this has been going on for long hanged tones from almost any synth when stopping a track/session. I have to drag the synth to the side to disconnect and then back and the sound stops, might this also be an issue with AUM? I don't know as I only use LK in AUM.
    Do you want a video or do you know what I'm talking about? I mean the hanging sounds.
    I have yet to reproduce the greyed out screens with intention.

    Is anyone else having this kind of issues? What device and iOS version do you have?

    iOS 15.01 iPad Pro 2021

    Anyone else having this kind of issues?

  • edited October 2021

    @sinosoidal said:

    Was an LK project? Yes
    I most of the time use "save as"

    "Don't you use LK hosted in AUM for example?"
    No , I use LK as a master , and aum for the destination instruments / slave

    Well , so :
    I have a project on ipad ( which linked and connected to my iphone same Id etc )
    How may I transfer it to iphone ?
    Sorry if it looks stupid , but I cant see how :)

    What is the best way to save things in fact ?

  • @paikan777 said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    Was an LK project? Yes
    I most of the time use "save as"

    "Don't you use LK hosted in AUM for example?"
    No , I use LK as a master , and aum for the destination instruments / slave

    Have you ever tried LK hosted as AUv3 inside AUM? That would spare you from having two projects. AUM would keep your LK session state inside the AUM session, and that would also spare you from changing between apps, assuming you are using one device only.

    Well , so :
    I have a project on ipad ( which linked and connected to my iphone same Id etc )
    How may I transfer it to iphone ?
    Sorry if it looks stupid , but I cant see how :)

    There is an bank export button when you have the bank selected. You can't export a single project yet.

    What is the best way to save things in fact ?

    There is no other way of saving when using LK as standalone.

  • edited October 2021

    yes i have tried using lk as a auv3 un aum , but i often work With iphone and within aum , even with lk open and full screen , it is too small for me . I really appreciate lk standalone for a real fullscreen :)

    "LK hosted as AUv3 inside AUM? That would spare you from having two projects"
    oh okay didnt get it right , well I am special on this since after years of ableton with sooo many different instruments , I finally chose to stick with the essential = lets say the 12 same instruments ( and each song uses only some of the 12 ins of course ) , that I use for all projects , so I have the same AUM project for all my setlist of songs on LK :) / so I only switch projects on LK
    ( and u assumed right I only use or iphone , or ipad , not both together )

    so no way here to transfer a file / project between ipad and iphone ? :)

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    @sinosoidal, @xglax Thanks for fixing the Apple Pencil editing, really essential for me as I do everything using the Pencil.
    I do, however still get these totally greyed out screens and it only happens to LK but I suspect that AUM has some part in it happening (?). I also got, and this has been going on for long hanged tones from almost any synth when stopping a track/session. I have to drag the synth to the side to disconnect and then back and the sound stops, might this also be an issue with AUM? I don't know as I only use LK in AUM.
    Do you want a video or do you know what I'm talking about? I mean the hanging sounds.
    I have yet to reproduce the greyed out screens with intention.

    Is anyone else having this kind of issues? What device and iOS version do you have?

    iOS 15.01 iPad Pro 2021

    Anyone else having this kind of issues?

    Finding more trouble. It is like LK freezes but still works, I can't open properties for clips but it works for scene. It's all very strange and very annoying as I been trying to finish up this project for days now but get interrupted by the fact I have to restart and lose work as save does not actually take, saving the AUM project that is. It looks like I have saved but after restart it's not. Again, I'm not sure this is AUM or LK or both. I find it very strange no one else reporting on these matters.

  • edited October 2021

    @xglax said:

    Hi :)

    I tried this workaround since it is not possible to choose in an action clip the number of the scene this clip is on .
    Would it not be possible to simply allow that or even really far better , to allow a scene action to choose " current scene playing " ? :)

    Lov'

  • For anyone who’s interested, here’s a proof of concept I recorded of LK running in the Loopy Pro beta.

    Please excuse my shitty playing.

    So much scope from here!!

  • @gregsmith said:
    For anyone who’s interested, here’s a proof of concept I recorded of LK running in the Loopy Pro beta.

    Please excuse my shitty playing.

    So much scope from here!!

    Great... Thanks for sharing..

  • @gregsmith said:
    For anyone who’s interested, here’s a proof of concept I recorded of LK running in the Loopy Pro beta.

    Please excuse my shitty playing.

    So much scope from here!!

    Can you use Loopy Pro as a AUv3 inside AUM?

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @gregsmith said:
    For anyone who’s interested, here’s a proof of concept I recorded of LK running in the Loopy Pro beta.

    Please excuse my shitty playing.

    So much scope from here!!

    Can you use Loopy Pro as a AUv3 inside AUM?

    Yes, that’s the other option. Loopy Pro doesn’t have multi out yet, but @Michael is going to add it. I’m still trying to decide which is the best workflow.

  • edited October 2021

    @xglax Hi , about midi notes in clip actions :

    = both "note on" and "note off" messages send the same message

    what I did : I midi mapped "arm button" of a track , with lowest note of lk keyboard = C-1 , = note 12
    then I created a action clip = trigger / midi / LK / channel 1 / message note On / 12
    it unarms the track

    then I changed message note On to message note off , unarms the track too

    Thanks :)

  • @paikan777 said:
    @xglax Hi , about midi notes in clip actions :

    = both "note on" and "note off" messages send the same message

    what I did : I midi mapped "arm button" of a track , with lowest note of lk keyboard = C-1 , = note 12
    then I created a action clip = trigger / midi / LK / channel 1 / message note On / 12
    it unarms the track

    then I changed message note On to message note off , unarms the track too

    Thanks :)

    Just tried this and didn't get that behaviour. Have you check if you don't have any message conflict? Or other note on message being sent to LK that is causing the unarming of the track

  • @xglax said:

    Just tried this and didn't get that behaviour. Have you check if you don't have any message conflict? Or other note on message being sent to LK that is causing the unarming of the track

    Okay , I started from scratch with only one clip with one action

    I still have C-1/12 midi mapped by lk keyboard on track arm button

    Now it doenst arm or unarm .
    Shouldn't : action clip = trigger / midi / LK / channel 1 / message note On(off) / 12 ,
    arm on and arm off the track ?

  • @paikan777 said:

    @xglax said:

    Just tried this and didn't get that behaviour. Have you check if you don't have any message conflict? Or other note on message being sent to LK that is causing the unarming of the track

    Okay , I started from scratch with only one clip with one action

    I still have C-1/12 midi mapped by lk keyboard on track arm button

    Now it doenst arm or unarm .
    Shouldn't : action clip = trigger / midi / LK / channel 1 / message note On(off) / 12 ,
    arm on and arm off the track ?

    Are you giving data2 some value other than zero? Note on with zero data2 won't count as note on events

  • edited October 2021

    @xglax :)

    In clip actions , after "note on/off" choice on the right , you can choose a midi note number (0 to 126)
    is it not this chosen note that sends the chosen message in their action clip ?

  • @paikan777 said:
    @xglax :)

    In clip actions , after "note on/off" choice on the right , you can choose a midi note number (0 to 126)
    is it not this chosen note that sends the chosen message in their action clip ?

    Yes, that one is the pitch value, but after that value, you have a second one that must have a value greater than zero that represents the velocity

  • edited October 2021

    @xglax

    oh okay I went to my ipad to check !
    on iphone 6s , i simply cannot see it ! i join a image with iphone 6s !
    gonna try with what you say

    Oh so ... numbers after "message" are pitch and velocity ? not midi note number right ?

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