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ButterSynth Is Released!

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  • Anybody have some tips on reducing the cpu usage while I am producing. I would set it back to high quality for final render.

  • @ecou said:
    Anybody have some tips on reducing the cpu usage while I am producing. I would set it back to high quality for final render.

    if you enabled oversampling in app settings you can disable it .. other than that there is not much to do, just resample to audio …

  • @ecou said:
    Anybody have some tips on reducing the cpu usage while I am producing. I would set it back to high quality for final render.

    Turn off oversampling and limit polyphony

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @ecou said:
    Anybody have some tips on reducing the cpu usage while I am producing. I would set it back to high quality for final render.

    Turn off oversampling and limit polyphony

    Thank you I was already doing both. Freeze time.

  • @ecou said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @ecou said:
    Anybody have some tips on reducing the cpu usage while I am producing. I would set it back to high quality for final render.

    Turn off oversampling and limit polyphony

    Thank you I was already doing both. Freeze time.

    Also, limiting grain count/length in the Granulator might help.

  • edited October 2023

    I really want to like this synth. I like how it looks for sure. Deal breaking criteria for great iPad synth for me is Filter quality and ease of configuring midi/matrix for wind controllers like Aerophone or EWI.

    Currently cannot create custom CC map preset at all. Also don’t see Breath Control (CC02) or Expression (CC11) as destinations in the matrix. Why? Those are bare minimum universally common mappable controls for modern synths.

    Midi learn also doesn’t respond to Breath Control. Dude.

    Hope I’m just overlooking something. As it stands pretty disappointed.

    All of Beepstreet synths, Mela 4, Qithesizer, Moogs do this very well. Many others, those are just my favs on iPad.

  • ButterSynth is reallllllly heavy on the cpu as well. It is a monster of an ideal synth in many ways though.

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  • Thanks @tja Hopefully @Kirnu can make Butter Synth configurable for wind synths by midi learn and atleast CC02 (Breath), CC11 as destinations in the matrix rather easily in a coming update.

  • @MrSmileZ said:
    ButterSynth is reallllllly heavy on the cpu as well. It is a monster of an ideal synth in many ways though.

    It can be, but not always. As with any synth offering these synthesis types, effects etc, it depends a lot on settings e.g. concurrent number of grains, , polyphony, number of oscillators active, oversampling etc.

  • @craftycurate said:

    @MrSmileZ said:
    ButterSynth is reallllllly heavy on the cpu as well. It is a monster of an ideal synth in many ways though.

    It can be, but not always. As with any synth offering these synthesis types, effects etc, it depends a lot on settings e.g. concurrent number of grains, , polyphony, number of oscillators active, oversampling etc.

    Exactly. To be expected when you’re going all out and making crazy patches. I have a few that have been CPU heavy but in general use, it’s not too terrible for me.

  • in relation to the features the cpu is alright.
    still buggy but a great synth.

  • Anyone managed to use the midi-learn? When selecting midi-learn in the context menu of a knob, nothing happens. I tried 2 different midi-keyboard (with assignable knobs). The both work in other apps. I tried to controle the wavetable position and the filter cutoff.

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  • @tja said:

    @Birdpie said:
    in relation to the features the cpu is alright.
    still buggy but a great synth.

    Known bugs need to be fixed.
    Did you inform the developer?

    sure

  • How are the bugs these days? Planning to use it as an AU in GarageBand (iPhone)

  • MIDI learn bug will be fixed in the next version which will be released soon.
    Loopy crash problem with low buffer is still under investigation. I'm still waiting for response from @Michael

  • @Kirnu said:
    MIDI learn bug will be fixed in the next version which will be released soon.
    Loopy crash problem with low buffer is still under investigation. I'm still waiting for response from @Michael

    Oh! You are? I don’t see anything! Would you resend?

  • @Kirnu said:
    MIDI learn bug will be fixed in the next version which will be released soon.

    Please could you give some indication as to how long it will be, this Midi Learn bug is really spoiling the fun 😟

  • Is there any option to turn off the save changes before switching presets? It gets very annoying to tweak a preset and decide to go to another and some annoying pop up message prompts me to save changes or not.

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  • @rapidfire said:

    @Kirnu said:
    MIDI learn bug will be fixed in the next version which will be released soon.

    Please could you give some indication as to how long it will be, this Midi Learn bug is really spoiling the fun 😟

    I'll release new version this week

  • @Antos3345 said:
    Is there any option to turn off the save changes before switching presets? It gets very annoying to tweak a preset and decide to go to another and some annoying pop up message prompts me to save changes or not.

    I'll make showing the dialog as a setting so you can turn if off

  • @Kirnu, can i just check whether ButterSynth is able to import .wtb wavetable files as exported by Waldorf Nave? Currently it doesn’t seem able to - i assume that’s as expected?

  • edited November 2023

    @Robin2 said:
    @Kirnu, can i just check whether ButterSynth is able to import .wtb wavetable files as exported by Waldorf Nave? Currently it doesn’t seem able to - i assume that’s as expected?

    No support for that format. Can't you export pure wavetables from Nave? That is wav files

  • @Kirnu said:

    @Robin2 said:
    @Kirnu, can i just check whether ButterSynth is able to import .wtb wavetable files as exported by Waldorf Nave? Currently it doesn’t seem able to - i assume that’s as expected?

    No support for that format. Can't you export pure wavetables from Nave? That is wav files

    Unfortunately not, no. I guess it’s fair enough that they want to limit the use of wavetables created in their synths to only being reused in their own synths but it’s a shame nonetheless. Many thanks for taking the time to get back to me, really appreciate it. Cheers.

  • @Kirnu said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    Is there any option to turn off the save changes before switching presets? It gets very annoying to tweak a preset and decide to go to another and some annoying pop up message prompts me to save changes or not.

    I'll make showing the dialog as a setting so you can turn if off

    Oh that's great! It's a small thing but when flicking through presets, maybe tweak the filter a bit, only to have to click through the dialog gets tedious.

    Just to say this is a small thing, I love this synth and am having a lot of fun with it and getting some really good sounds, so keep up the good work.

  • @Kirnu said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    Is there any option to turn off the save changes before switching presets? It gets very annoying to tweak a preset and decide to go to another and some annoying pop up message prompts me to save changes or not.

    I'll make showing the dialog as a setting so you can turn if off

    Nice :)

  • I'm working with Buttersynth and had some feedback, but couldn't find a way to contact Kirnu directly (understandable), so @Kirnu if you're listening, I'm very excited about this synth but struggling with 2 things:

    1. The curve of the release portion of the envelope seems really stark. A pad sound or something with a long release has a pretty noticeable point where it just suddenly dies, it's not very smooth. I can get around this with reverb or the curve envelope, but I'd prefer to just use the more basic envelopes as they typically work. I've never had this experience with other synths.
    2. I need filter key tracking, but it's a little hard to do. The grain oscillator has a key track button - I need that for the filter too! I know I can route it with the matrix through a long-press, but between the min, max, and amount, it's pretty tough to tell when it's fully tracking, half tracking, etc.

    Thanks for making this wonderful app! I'm looking forward to using it lots.

  • edited January 2024

    @Kirnu
    i just got buttersynth and overall i'm loving it!

    i'm focusing on the wavetable editor right now- and after spending some time with it i have a few bits of feedback & some questions

    • the wavetable editor effects have a lot of valuable, subtle potential that is hard to get to because of the value scaling. for example, the sample and hold can introduce very pleasant aliasing to a sine wave, but i have to very carefully set it to a very small value. it would be nice to have more control over the smaller values (same goes for the other effect parameters) - as i get to the halfway point S&H just turns my waveform into a blocky square wave.
    • i need a way to bake/resample the current effects settings to the selected frame without replacing the other frames.
    • if i try and save a single frame with effects on it, the effects are not included when i reopen it.
    • when i load wavetables downloaded from https://waveeditonline.com/ they do not scan

    i also agree with the above comment about the envelopes - it feels like the curve is not quite right. perhaps there could be curve toggle option?

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