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Is Samplr dead?

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  • TelefunkyTelefunky
    edited August 2016

    @supadom said:
    @Telefunky I was referring to when one triggers samples in arp mode. If you're in slicer mode your timing better be more than perfect unless you're after naturally wonky grooves.

    I don't mind a wonky groove and I'm constantly looking for weird ones...
    But I recently recorded 2 bass riffs from scratch, one 6 the other 10 seconds long, 3 versions for each riff, no metronome.
    Maximum deviation: 3 10th of a second, 2 of the longer one were spot on to the 2nd decimal, but that's just luck I guess ;)
    (it wasn't intended at all, I just noticed it while cutting the samples from Audioshare)

    cheers, Tom

  • supadomsupadom

    @Telefunky said:

    @supadom said:
    @Telefunky I was referring to when one triggers samples in arp mode. If you're in slicer mode your timing better be more than perfect unless you're after naturally wonky grooves.

    I don't mind a wonky groove and I'm constantly looking for weird ones...
    But I recently recorded 2 bass riffs from scratch, one 6 the other 10 seconds long, 3 versions for each riff, no metronome.
    Maximum deviation: 3 10th of a second, 2 of the longer one were spot on to the 2nd decimal, but that's just luck I guess ;)
    (it wasn't intended at all, I just noticed it while cutting the samples from Audioshare)

    cheers, Tom

    I know what you mean. My other drummer doesn't like things too quantised. What did you use as reference for no metronome recording? I never use the metronome but I always have some rhythmical stuff going on either in Samplr (arp) or loopy.

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @supadom said:

    @rhcball said:
    Why are you guys still discussing a dead app? Leave the corpses to the lord and etc. etc.

    Reverse psychology ain't gonna work here. Just patience.

    Anyhow, this app is one of, if not the most alive app I use. To me cubasis, auria, and the rest of the static lot are dead. I'm sure there will be folks who still put them to good use but I can't get them to breathe. I guess it isn't a fair comparison as samplr is an instrument like any other physical instruments out there.

    This is a good point. I know exactly what you mean. I even find this with Gadget sometimes.

    Apps you can really play include (IMO):

    Samplr
    Infinite Looper
    Figure
    Genome
    Patterning
    And of course apps like Animoog, iElectribe, Elastic Drums.

    Fair points. I just find Animoog is an instrument I've had fun learning to play, while it feels like Samplr fights me all the way lol. I do know it's me though and not Samplr that's at fault ;)

    I never got Samplr either, until very recently. Carefully watching skilled people jamming live with it helped a lot. Like @supadom and that other chap who posted quite a few excellent vids recently. (Help me out someone...).

  • kobamotokobamoto
    edited August 2016

    @Telefunky said:
    I don't miss much on monitoring through Audiobus in parallel, except I have to stop the source manually - as mentioned it might be demanding in a live situation.
    But with properly cut files SamplR is stellar, beats any MPC handsdown.
    Just make a small midi file with 16 hits, trigger your favourite kits, load the audio in SamplR and you have 16 virtual pads on the timeline to be played velocity sensitive.
    The gesture recorder replaces midi...

    cheers, Tom

    that's a very generous review :) but speaking as someone who got into iOS music solely because of and for the sole purpose of using Samplr I think it would be even better if it could. do these things that mpcs can do.

    panning
    edit samples
    route tracks out of whatever outputs you want
    automate tempos
    automate time signatures
    merge tracks
    automation of mutes and solos
    time stretching
    individual slice features

    I could go on and on but suffice to say "beats any mpc hands down" is a bit farfetched at best.
    and the motion sequencing in samplr is not even comparable to an mpcs midi sequencing, in any shape or form.
    but I do love Samplr as much as you do :)

  • TelefunkyTelefunky
    edited August 2016

    well, I should have added that this referred to what I would use an MPC for.
    (considered one more than once, but SamplR finished that process)
    of course I wouldn't refuse single outs, but when SamplR was released there was noch such thing available - not even Audiobus can do that. Minimix is the first one I noticed to support that feature.
    The AD480 reverb also can adress external interface channels - in theory.
    If you activate the feature when it's loaded in Audiobus the iPad will crash as deep as it gets - don't try with monitors connected, it's freaking loud...

    my 2 favorite quotes:
    less, but better (Dieter Rams, a German designer)
    devide and rule (good ole Caesar)
    I don't need all in one box, but get along with simple tools that do their job best.
    As mentioned in another thread I use a $800 DAW, but I'm not shy to preprocess the files with a freeware editor (as the DAW is non destructive and I want the files modified)

    @supadom I just used my own inner clock, no external reference...
    I can't tell the bpm, but the thing is rather stable - I frequently play 15-30 minutes and can cut sections from arbitrary regions, or even different takes, timing doesn't drift too much.
    The disadvantage is that the 'momentary timing' has a big influence on my own perceiption - I may regard the track completely different some days later, often surprising myself.

    cheers, Tom

  • FlightManualFlightManual

    Since Samplr is the greatest app I have ever played with, I currently can't stand the title of this thread.

    When I first got into music 20 years ago, an accordian repairman/cheezy lounge singer/mentor lived next to me. He heard me listening to my techno records next door. I was down to one turntable after moving, so my DJ career was done. He came over and listened. Then he said, "I have a machine that sounds like your brain." Went over to his room and came back with a Roland TR-808. Still in the box, plastic cutout protector on it. He let me play with it for the night. I stayed up all night. When he came back, I showed him what I did, and he sold it to me. For $160. Just because I was so in love. It inspired everything I did.

    Samplr is now the machine that sounds like my brain. It's just so intuitive. If it breaks, I'll be heartbroken. It is worth more than the price of the iPad to me.

  • supadomsupadom

    @Telefunky said:

    @supadom I just used my own inner clock, no external reference...
    I can't tell the bpm, but the thing is rather stable - I frequently play 15-30 minutes and can cut sections from arbitrary regions, or even different takes, timing doesn't drift too much.
    The disadvantage is that the 'momentary timing' has a big influence on my own perceiption - I may regard the track completely different some days later, often surprising myself.

    cheers, Tom

    Sorry, you lost me there. You mean you don't need the metronome when you record samples to import into samplr or when you record using motion recorder within samplr?

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    @FlightManual said:
    Since Samplr is the greatest app I have ever played with, I currently can't stand the title of this thread.

    When I first got into music 20 years ago, an accordian repairman/cheezy lounge singer/mentor lived next to me. He heard me listening to my techno records next door. I was down to one turntable after moving, so my DJ career was done. He came over and listened. Then he said, "I have a machine that sounds like your brain." Went over to his room and came back with a Roland TR-808. Still in the box, plastic cutout protector on it. He let me play with it for the night. I stayed up all night. When he came back, I showed him what I did, and he sold it to me. For $160. Just because I was so in love. It inspired everything I did.

    Samplr is now the machine that sounds like my brain. It's just so intuitive. If it breaks, I'll be heartbroken. It is worth more than the price of the iPad to me.

    Intrigued by the mysticism here! Can I hear some of your Samplr results? I am baffled by it. Can never figure out how to record my gestures; sometimes the repeating circles appear, sometimes not. I would love to make this work. (Also, no audioshare in? Harrumph.)

  • FlightManualFlightManual

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @FlightManual said:
    Since Samplr is the greatest app I have ever played with, I currently can't stand the title of this thread.

    When I first got into music 20 years ago, an accordian repairman/cheezy lounge singer/mentor lived next to me. He heard me listening to my techno records next door. I was down to one turntable after moving, so my DJ career was done. He came over and listened. Then he said, "I have a machine that sounds like your brain." Went over to his room and came back with a Roland TR-808. Still in the box, plastic cutout protector on it. He let me play with it for the night. I stayed up all night. When he came back, I showed him what I did, and he sold it to me. For $160. Just because I was so in love. It inspired everything I did.

    Samplr is now the machine that sounds like my brain. It's just so intuitive. If it breaks, I'll be heartbroken. It is worth more than the price of the iPad to me.

    Intrigued by the mysticism here! Can I hear some of your Samplr results? I am baffled by it. Can never figure out how to record my gestures; sometimes the repeating circles appear, sometimes not. I would love to make this work. (Also, no audioshare in? Harrumph.)

    Gimme a day and I'll shoot a video.

    Recording gestures is easy. Right in the middle above the waveform is where you can record three different instances of gestures. It will count you down into the recording of them, and you may make them as long or short as you wish. I usually get a rhythm going in the Arp first, so I know I have a backbone to the song.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @FlightManual said:
    Since Samplr is the greatest app I have ever played with, I currently can't stand the title of this thread.

    When I first got into music 20 years ago, an accordian repairman/cheezy lounge singer/mentor lived next to me. He heard me listening to my techno records next door. I was down to one turntable after moving, so my DJ career was done. He came over and listened. Then he said, "I have a machine that sounds like your brain." Went over to his room and came back with a Roland TR-808. Still in the box, plastic cutout protector on it. He let me play with it for the night. I stayed up all night. When he came back, I showed him what I did, and he sold it to me. For $160. Just because I was so in love. It inspired everything I did.

    Samplr is now the machine that sounds like my brain. It's just so intuitive. If it breaks, I'll be heartbroken. It is worth more than the price of the iPad to me.

    Nicely done.

  • JeffChasteenJeffChasteen

    @FlightManual said:
    Since Samplr is the greatest app I have ever played with, I currently can't stand the title of this thread.

    When I first got into music 20 years ago, an accordian repairman/cheezy lounge singer/mentor lived next to me. He heard me listening to my techno records next door. I was down to one turntable after moving, so my DJ career was done. He came over and listened. Then he said, "I have a machine that sounds like your brain." Went over to his room and came back with a Roland TR-808. Still in the box, plastic cutout protector on it. He let me play with it for the night. I stayed up all night. When he came back, I showed him what I did, and he sold it to me. For $160. Just because I was so in love. It inspired everything I did.

    Samplr is now the machine that sounds like my brain. It's just so intuitive. If it breaks, I'll be heartbroken. It is worth more than the price of the iPad to me.

    I enjoyed that story and would like to hear more about that fella; he sounds like quite a character.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @FlightManual said:
    Since Samplr is the greatest app I have ever played with, I currently can't stand the title of this thread.

    When I first got into music 20 years ago, an accordian repairman/cheezy lounge singer/mentor lived next to me. He heard me listening to my techno records next door. I was down to one turntable after moving, so my DJ career was done. He came over and listened. Then he said, "I have a machine that sounds like your brain." Went over to his room and came back with a Roland TR-808. Still in the box, plastic cutout protector on it. He let me play with it for the night. I stayed up all night. When he came back, I showed him what I did, and he sold it to me. For $160. Just because I was so in love. It inspired everything I did.

    Samplr is now the machine that sounds like my brain. It's just so intuitive. If it breaks, I'll be heartbroken. It is worth more than the price of the iPad to me.

    A-fuckin-men to that!

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  • mireko_2mireko_2

    I really look forward to link in this app!!!

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    How about this one!

  • VincentTVincentT

    I love Samplr, yet i ditched it a while ago because i wanted to get to grips with Gadget. This thread made me re-install it but now i encounter a problem with audiocopy. Samplr crashes every time i try to paste audio into it. I am on an Ipad 4 IOS 9.3.2. Anyone else have this? Or is this a audiocopy problem. It seems to wrork fine with other apps...

  • TelefunkyTelefunky

    I'm not 100% shure, but I remember similiar issues with paste.
    Iirc 'send to' SamplR from Audioshare works much better.

    cheers, Tom

  • VincentTVincentT

    Thanks Tom, i will do it that way.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    There is a workaround for paste. Tap the gear in the upper right corner instead of the paste button in the middle of the screen. It requires two more taps but it does work.

  • VincentTVincentT

    Thanks for the tip, Luke!

  • supadomsupadom

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    There is a workaround for paste. Tap the gear in the upper right corner instead of the paste button in the middle of the screen. It requires two more taps but it does work.

    It does work but crashes when returning to the sample browser. Doesn't that happen to you?

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @supadom said:
    It does work but crashes when returning to the sample browser. Doesn't that happen to you?

    It does crash if I retrace my steps through the taps to paste. It doesn't crash, though, if I just tap on the screen outside of the paste modal window.

  • TelefunkyTelefunky
    edited August 2016

    rediscovered a folder with SamplR snippets and had some guitar sounds laying around
    sampled synth source was probably iVCS3...

  • WillWill
    edited August 2016

    @Telefunky said:
    of course I wouldn't refuse single outs, but when SamplR was released there was noch such thing available - not even Audiobus can do that. Minimix is the first one I noticed to support that feature.

    Lots of apps offer multiple outs by way of exposing multiple ports to AB and IAA. Think that's generally what people are wanting around here vs the ability to address multiple hardware ports. Samplr is ripe for it. Then @kobamoto and @JohnnyGoodyear could at least pan via AUM.

    Amazing story @FlightManual! I already had a lot of respect for accordion repairmen (those things are crazy crazy complicated/delicate) but now I kinda want to be one.

  • TelefunkyTelefunky
    edited August 2016

    I wrote 'hardware outs' because of 'arbitrary outputs' in the referring post, but actually don't make a lot of difference between the two.
    On the other hand if I imagine only 3 outputs on dedicated AB lines running through 3 different fx apps on the same tablet... screen swapping would drive me nuts.
    I'd appreciate the iConnect method with more than 2 divices...

    cheers, Tom

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @syrupcore said:

    @Telefunky said:
    of course I wouldn't refuse single outs, but when SamplR was released there was noch such thing available - not even Audiobus can do that. Minimix is the first one I noticed to support that feature.

    Lots of apps offer multiple outs by way of exposing multiple ports to AB and IAA. Think that's generally what people are wanting around here vs the ability to address multiple hardware ports. Samplr is ripe for it. Then @kobamoto and @JohnnyGoodyear could at least pan via AUM.

    Amazing story @FlightManual! I already had a lot of respect for accordion repairmen (those things are crazy crazy complicated/delicate) but now I kinda want to be one.

    that would be great, but I primarily need panning with in the app as I use it for production more so than performance
    launchpad app, blocs wave, even the circuit doesn't have it. This is why the aliens attacked us in the movie independence day.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @kobamoto said:

    @syrupcore said:

    @Telefunky said:
    of course I wouldn't refuse single outs, but when SamplR was released there was noch such thing available - not even Audiobus can do that. Minimix is the first one I noticed to support that feature.

    Lots of apps offer multiple outs by way of exposing multiple ports to AB and IAA. Think that's generally what people are wanting around here vs the ability to address multiple hardware ports. Samplr is ripe for it. Then @kobamoto and @JohnnyGoodyear could at least pan via AUM.

    Amazing story @FlightManual! I already had a lot of respect for accordion repairmen (those things are crazy crazy complicated/delicate) but now I kinda want to be one.

    that would be great, but I primarily need panning with in the app as I use it for production more so than performance
    launchpad app, blocs wave, even the circuit doesn't have it. This is why the aliens attacked us in the movie independence day.

    Absolutely true.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    :smiley:

  • WillWill
    edited August 2016

    @kobamoto and @JohnnyGoodyear Out of curiosity, if Marco were to show up here and ask you to decide between:

    1. output-per-track but no built in panning
    2. panning-per-track but all tracks summed to a single stereo out


    which would you chose?

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