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LK - for Ableton Live & Midi by Imaginando - AUv3 Clip Launcher Finally Available in AUM!!

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  • mbncpmbncp

    @sinosoidal said:

    @mbncp said:
    Midi mapping on clips is a bit weird, if I have a single track with cc_1, cc_2, cc_3,.. then add a new Track, the mapping is rearranged horizontally, cc_2 will now trigger clip 1 on track 2, cc_3 will trigger clip 2 on track 1, ...
    Any special reason for that ?

    Does the mapping change when adding new tracks? Can you make us a short video on how to reproduce the problem?

    Between the 2 pics I just added the new track

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @mbncp said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @mbncp said:
    Midi mapping on clips is a bit weird, if I have a single track with cc_1, cc_2, cc_3,.. then add a new Track, the mapping is rearranged horizontally, cc_2 will now trigger clip 1 on track 2, cc_3 will trigger clip 2 on track 1, ...
    Any special reason for that ?

    Does the mapping change when adding new tracks? Can you make us a short video on how to reproduce the problem?

    Between the 2 pics I just added the new track

    This is definitely a bug. We need to look at this. Thanks for reporting.

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited March 2021

    @krassmann said:
    I don't know if this had already bern requested... I would like to have some more functions to draw automation. A line tool for example. Yesterday I wanted to apply a growing probability to an 8 bar clip with many 16th notes - that was quite impossible without zooming in, but then it’s hard to keep the line straight over 8 bars.

    Yep.. I requested the 'Draw' mode for Prob/Vel, as CC does... Doubling down on that request.. could be really nice..

    Thanks..

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @sinosoidal said:

    @hibjshop said:
    Trigger quantize and record quantize don’t seem to be saving to project correctly. When reopening it shows as they were saved but functions in a buggy/glitchy manner requiring those two parameters to be reset. Anyone else?

    We will take a look.

    Thanks. Being able to run smooth from the get go is a big plus with workflow and getting started.
    Really getting into this app, its fantastic, thanks so much!

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @sinosoidal if it helps I have trigger quant and rec quant both set to none when state saved (for ambient jams). Both have to be pressed when opening the project (aum) to fuction properly.

  • mbncpmbncp

    I really like the app but it crashes really too often for my taste, using it with Drambo, just one instance of LK (using MIDI Bus app for routing), on an iPad Air 4 th gen.
    Rebooting doesn't help and the crash is very random, also sometimes the GUI is all black although the plug seems still working. Removing LK and trying to reload doesn't work, only way is to restart Drambo.
    Recovery state prevents from loosing all my work, but not always.
    Any idea ?

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @mbncp said:
    I really like the app but it crashes really too often for my taste, using it with Drambo, just one instance of LK (using MIDI Bus app for routing), on an iPad Air 4 th gen.
    Rebooting doesn't help and the crash is very random, also sometimes the GUI is all black although the plug seems still working. Removing LK and trying to reload doesn't work, only way is to restart Drambo.
    Recovery state prevents from loosing all my work, but not always.
    Any idea ?

    Are other users having this experience? We have the lowest crash rate in 90 days.

    Maybe there is something particular about your setup that is triggering those crashes.

    Can you please make the simplest project that replicates the crashes very easily? Maybe that would help us finding the problem.

    Thanks!

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @sinosoidal said:

    @mbncp said:
    I really like the app but it crashes really too often for my taste, using it with Drambo, just one instance of LK (using MIDI Bus app for routing), on an iPad Air 4 th gen.
    Rebooting doesn't help and the crash is very random, also sometimes the GUI is all black although the plug seems still working. Removing LK and trying to reload doesn't work, only way is to restart Drambo.
    Recovery state prevents from loosing all my work, but not always.
    Any idea ?

    Are other users having this experience? We have the lowest crash rate in 90 days.

    Maybe there is something particular about your setup that is triggering those crashes.

    Can you please make the simplest project that replicates the crashes very easily? Maybe that would help us finding the problem.

    Thanks!

    I get the odd crash here and there but nothing to write home about. I save very regularly in AUM anyway as presets are generally tiny.

    I’m on iPad Pro (2019 I think) and iPhone 11 Pro

  • mbncpmbncp

    @sinosoidal said:

    @mbncp said:
    I really like the app but it crashes really too often for my taste, using it with Drambo, just one instance of LK (using MIDI Bus app for routing), on an iPad Air 4 th gen.
    Rebooting doesn't help and the crash is very random, also sometimes the GUI is all black although the plug seems still working. Removing LK and trying to reload doesn't work, only way is to restart Drambo.
    Recovery state prevents from loosing all my work, but not always.
    Any idea ?

    Are other users having this experience? We have the lowest crash rate in 90 days.

    Maybe there is something particular about your setup that is triggering those crashes.

    Can you please make the simplest project that replicates the crashes very easily? Maybe that would help us finding the problem.

    Thanks!

    I'm trying in Cubasis 3 now to see if it's related to Drambo, and so far not a crash in a couple of hours, will let you know.
    Speaking about Cubasis, I wouldn't mind an Mfx version of LK.

  • soundtemplesoundtemple

    @sinosoidal Has scene based follow actions on the radar?

    It would make life easier for arranging songs (as there is no arrangement view like in Ableton) we are limited to the session view for arrangement and jamming.

  • rs2000rs2000
    edited March 2021

    @mbncp said:
    I really like the app but it crashes really too often for my taste, using it with Drambo, just one instance of LK (using MIDI Bus app for routing), on an iPad Air 4 th gen.
    Rebooting doesn't help and the crash is very random, also sometimes the GUI is all black although the plug seems still working. Removing LK and trying to reload doesn't work, only way is to restart Drambo.
    Recovery state prevents from loosing all my work, but not always.
    Any idea ?

    On which iOS version?
    I don't see crashes on iOS 13.7.

  • mbncpmbncp

    @rs2000 said:

    @mbncp said:
    I really like the app but it crashes really too often for my taste, using it with Drambo, just one instance of LK (using MIDI Bus app for routing), on an iPad Air 4 th gen.
    Rebooting doesn't help and the crash is very random, also sometimes the GUI is all black although the plug seems still working. Removing LK and trying to reload doesn't work, only way is to restart Drambo.
    Recovery state prevents from loosing all my work, but not always.
    Any idea ?

    On which iOS version?
    I don't see crashes on iOS 13.7.

    IOS 14.4
    Just had my first crash using it in Cubasis, but it’s possible I had a MIDI loop

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @soundtemple said:
    @sinosoidal Has scene based follow actions on the radar?

    It would make life easier for arranging songs (as there is no arrangement view like in Ableton) we are limited to the session view for arrangement and jamming.

    Yes! Scene follow actions should probably be implemented soon. Maybe for 1.10.3 or 1.10.4. Let's see how it goes. :blush:

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @sinosoidal said:

    @soundtemple said:
    @sinosoidal Has scene based follow actions on the radar?

    It would make life easier for arranging songs (as there is no arrangement view like in Ableton) we are limited to the session view for arrangement and jamming.

    Yes! Scene follow actions should probably be implemented soon. Maybe for 1.10.3 or 1.10.4. Let's see how it goes. :blush:

    Music to my ears! (pun intended)

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @wim said:

    @mbncp said:

    @wim said:

    @mbncp said:
    Is there a way to filter midi learned messages. I use midi keys to trigger clips and my synth is receiving them.
    LK is even recording them .. weird

    What happens if you unarm the track?

    Well, then there is no midi at all going thru. IMO these midi learn events should be filtered, first time I see an app behaving this way :o I could filter them but it's annoying that they get recorded in LK

    So ... the app needs to remember all the notes that you've used for mapping and exclude them from pass-through and recording? I guess I never ran into that because I would always use a midi CC's or a separate midi channel for automation. I typically use channel 16 for automation. That's not always an option for controllers that can't change channels, I know.

    Each track can be told to listen to a single midi channel rather than All. I don't know if that helps but is the method I use.

    I would > @sinosoidal said:

    @soundtemple said:
    @sinosoidal Has scene based follow actions on the radar?

    It would make life easier for arranging songs (as there is no arrangement view like in Ableton) we are limited to the session view for arrangement and jamming.

    Yes! Scene follow actions should probably be implemented soon. Maybe for 1.10.3 or 1.10.4. Let's see how it goes. :blush:

    Can you give a sense of where on your priority list support for non-4/4 time signatures is?

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @espiegel123 said:

    @wim said:

    @mbncp said:

    @wim said:

    @mbncp said:
    Is there a way to filter midi learned messages. I use midi keys to trigger clips and my synth is receiving them.
    LK is even recording them .. weird

    What happens if you unarm the track?

    Well, then there is no midi at all going thru. IMO these midi learn events should be filtered, first time I see an app behaving this way :o I could filter them but it's annoying that they get recorded in LK

    So ... the app needs to remember all the notes that you've used for mapping and exclude them from pass-through and recording? I guess I never ran into that because I would always use a midi CC's or a separate midi channel for automation. I typically use channel 16 for automation. That's not always an option for controllers that can't change channels, I know.

    Each track can be told to listen to a single midi channel rather than All. I don't know if that helps but is the method I use.

    I would > @sinosoidal said:

    @soundtemple said:
    @sinosoidal Has scene based follow actions on the radar?

    It would make life easier for arranging songs (as there is no arrangement view like in Ableton) we are limited to the session view for arrangement and jamming.

    Yes! Scene follow actions should probably be implemented soon. Maybe for 1.10.3 or 1.10.4. Let's see how it goes. :blush:

    Can you give a sense of where on your priority list support for non-4/4 time signatures is?

    It's on our list. It's not an easy task and we are facing issues with Ableton Live side of LK that must be resolved, apart from ongoing internal refactors to LK to make it more performant. I can't promise you an ETA. Not this month for sure. Sorry! :disappointed:

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @sinosoidal can I airdrop a project from one LK to LK on another device? Looks like I can airdrop banks but can’t work out how to create a new bank.

  • gregsmithgregsmith
    edited March 2021

    I finally made a virtual clip launcher using MidiPad 2

    It’s not perfect as you have to manually untoggle pads. The scene buttons work though or you can swipe the row of pads. The buttons at the bottom stop each track.

    It’ll do for now but could do with a dedicated app for this, or a new controller for LK.

    Insta version if you prefer: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMH3GWCpM8p/?igshid=i7e4vckwe8yq

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @gregsmith said:
    I finally made a virtual clip launcher using MidiPad 2

    It’s not perfect as you have to manually untoggle pads. The scene buttons work though or you can swipe the row of pads. The buttons at the bottom stop each track.

    It’ll do for now but could do with a dedicated app for this, or a new controller for LK.

    Insta version if you prefer: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMH3GWCpM8p/?igshid=i7e4vckwe8yq

    :wink:

  • tahichetahiche

    @gregsmith said:
    I finally made a virtual clip launcher using MidiPad 2

    It’s not perfect as you have to manually untoggle pads. The scene buttons work though or you can swipe the row of pads. The buttons at the bottom stop each track.

    It’ll do for now but could do with a dedicated app for this, or a new controller for LK.

    Insta version if you prefer: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMH3GWCpM8p/?igshid=i7e4vckwe8yq

    This is very cool indeed. But if I may ask... what’s the advantage of using the smaller screen when you have all the clips in front of you in Lk?

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @tahiche said:

    @gregsmith said:
    I finally made a virtual clip launcher using MidiPad 2

    It’s not perfect as you have to manually untoggle pads. The scene buttons work though or you can swipe the row of pads. The buttons at the bottom stop each track.

    It’ll do for now but could do with a dedicated app for this, or a new controller for LK.

    Insta version if you prefer: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMH3GWCpM8p/?igshid=i7e4vckwe8yq

    This is very cool indeed. But if I may ask... what’s the advantage of using the smaller screen when you have all the clips in front of you in Lk?

    In theory, the main advantage is that you can mess with all the other faders and knobs etc. in AUM without LK taking up the screen - same as if you have a hardware launchpad.

    It was really of just to see if I could do it though tbh!

    @sinosoidal said:
    :wink:

    👌🙌

  • tahichetahiche

    @gregsmith said:

    @tahiche said:

    @gregsmith said:
    I finally made a virtual clip launcher using MidiPad 2

    It’s not perfect as you have to manually untoggle pads. The scene buttons work though or you can swipe the row of pads. The buttons at the bottom stop each track.

    It’ll do for now but could do with a dedicated app for this, or a new controller for LK.

    Insta version if you prefer: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMH3GWCpM8p/?igshid=i7e4vckwe8yq

    This is very cool indeed. But if I may ask... what’s the advantage of using the smaller screen when you have all the clips in front of you in Lk?

    In theory, the main advantage is that you can mess with all the other faders and knobs etc. in AUM without LK taking up the screen - same as if you have a hardware launchpad.

    It was really of just to see if I could do it though tbh!

    @sinosoidal said:
    :wink:

    👌🙌

    And you did it! 👍
    It would indeed be helpful if using the controller mode/screen in LK. Talking about the controller... I’ve not been able to use it as is, I don’t understand why the whole controller is mapped to a single midi channel. I think you should be able to assign midi channel per control as this is a global performance tool. As is, you can’t control individual AUM channels with it, like volumes. Unless you mal everything in aum to a single midi channel and so on, but that’s a hassle.

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @tahiche said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @tahiche said:

    @gregsmith said:
    I finally made a virtual clip launcher using MidiPad 2

    It’s not perfect as you have to manually untoggle pads. The scene buttons work though or you can swipe the row of pads. The buttons at the bottom stop each track.

    It’ll do for now but could do with a dedicated app for this, or a new controller for LK.

    Insta version if you prefer: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMH3GWCpM8p/?igshid=i7e4vckwe8yq

    This is very cool indeed. But if I may ask... what’s the advantage of using the smaller screen when you have all the clips in front of you in Lk?

    In theory, the main advantage is that you can mess with all the other faders and knobs etc. in AUM without LK taking up the screen - same as if you have a hardware launchpad.

    It was really of just to see if I could do it though tbh!

    @sinosoidal said:
    :wink:

    👌🙌

    And you did it! 👍
    It would indeed be helpful if using the controller mode/screen in LK. Talking about the controller... I’ve not been able to use it as is, I don’t understand why the whole controller is mapped to a single midi channel. I think you should be able to assign midi channel per control as this is a global performance tool. As is, you can’t control individual AUM channels with it, like volumes. Unless you mal everything in aum to a single midi channel and so on, but that’s a hassle.

    The forthcomming 1.10.2 will address that issue with the ability to select channel, cc, min value, max value and color for each control element.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @sinosoidal said:

    @soundtemple said:
    @sinosoidal Has scene based follow actions on the radar?

    It would make life easier for arranging songs (as there is no arrangement view like in Ableton) we are limited to the session view for arrangement and jamming.

    Yes! Scene follow actions should probably be implemented soon. Maybe for 1.10.3 or 1.10.4. Let's see how it goes. :blush:

    Just got into LK. Great app! Scene follow actions would be my number one feature request. Thanks for listening!

  • tahichetahiche

    @sinosoidal said:

    @tahiche said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @tahiche said:

    @gregsmith said:
    I finally made a virtual clip launcher using MidiPad 2

    It’s not perfect as you have to manually untoggle pads. The scene buttons work though or you can swipe the row of pads. The buttons at the bottom stop each track.

    It’ll do for now but could do with a dedicated app for this, or a new controller for LK.

    Insta version if you prefer: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMH3GWCpM8p/?igshid=i7e4vckwe8yq

    This is very cool indeed. But if I may ask... what’s the advantage of using the smaller screen when you have all the clips in front of you in Lk?

    In theory, the main advantage is that you can mess with all the other faders and knobs etc. in AUM without LK taking up the screen - same as if you have a hardware launchpad.

    It was really of just to see if I could do it though tbh!

    @sinosoidal said:
    :wink:

    👌🙌

    And you did it! 👍
    It would indeed be helpful if using the controller mode/screen in LK. Talking about the controller... I’ve not been able to use it as is, I don’t understand why the whole controller is mapped to a single midi channel. I think you should be able to assign midi channel per control as this is a global performance tool. As is, you can’t control individual AUM channels with it, like volumes. Unless you mal everything in aum to a single midi channel and so on, but that’s a hassle.

    The forthcomming 1.10.2 will address that issue with the ability to select channel, cc, min value, max value and color for each control element.

    You da man! 🔥

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @sinosoidal Really digging LK! Quick question about probability: right now, I can control the probability of a note either playing or not, which is useful. But it would be even more useful if I could select three notes and assign them to a "probability group" that only allows one to play at a time. So, for instance, I select two notes and put them in a probability group that plays one of the notes but not the other. If I select three notes, it randomly plays one of the three notes each time through the sequence. This is especially helpful for creating some variation in melodies and bass lines. Right now, the probability in these use cases can play a chord (more than one note plays) or silence, which is not always optimal. Anyway, an idea. :smile:

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @tahiche said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @tahiche said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @tahiche said:

    @gregsmith said:
    I finally made a virtual clip launcher using MidiPad 2

    It’s not perfect as you have to manually untoggle pads. The scene buttons work though or you can swipe the row of pads. The buttons at the bottom stop each track.

    It’ll do for now but could do with a dedicated app for this, or a new controller for LK.

    Insta version if you prefer: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMH3GWCpM8p/?igshid=i7e4vckwe8yq

    This is very cool indeed. But if I may ask... what’s the advantage of using the smaller screen when you have all the clips in front of you in Lk?

    In theory, the main advantage is that you can mess with all the other faders and knobs etc. in AUM without LK taking up the screen - same as if you have a hardware launchpad.

    It was really of just to see if I could do it though tbh!

    @sinosoidal said:
    :wink:

    👌🙌

    And you did it! 👍
    It would indeed be helpful if using the controller mode/screen in LK. Talking about the controller... I’ve not been able to use it as is, I don’t understand why the whole controller is mapped to a single midi channel. I think you should be able to assign midi channel per control as this is a global performance tool. As is, you can’t control individual AUM channels with it, like volumes. Unless you mal everything in aum to a single midi channel and so on, but that’s a hassle.

    The forthcomming 1.10.2 will address that issue with the ability to select channel, cc, min value, max value and color for each control element.

    You da man! 🔥

    The first beta has already been submited, we are just waiting it becomes available to users. You should receive a notification soon. We definitely need heavy testing on this version as we have updated all the dialogs and something might be broken or not looking properly yet.

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    @sinosoidal Really digging LK! Quick question about probability: right now, I can control the probability of a note either playing or not, which is useful. But it would be even more useful if I could select three notes and assign them to a "probability group" that only allows one to play at a time. So, for instance, I select two notes and put them in a probability group that plays one of the notes but not the other. If I select three notes, it randomly plays one of the three notes each time through the sequence. This is especially helpful for creating some variation in melodies and bass lines. Right now, the probability in these use cases can play a chord (more than one note plays) or silence, which is not always optimal. Anyway, an idea. :smile:

    Definitely a great suggestion. I will write this down. Thanks for your feedback! :blush:

  • tahichetahiche

    @sinosoidal said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    @sinosoidal Really digging LK! Quick question about probability: right now, I can control the probability of a note either playing or not, which is useful. But it would be even more useful if I could select three notes and assign them to a "probability group" that only allows one to play at a time. So, for instance, I select two notes and put them in a probability group that plays one of the notes but not the other. If I select three notes, it randomly plays one of the three notes each time through the sequence. This is especially helpful for creating some variation in melodies and bass lines. Right now, the probability in these use cases can play a chord (more than one note plays) or silence, which is not always optimal. Anyway, an idea. :smile:

    Definitely a great suggestion. I will write this down. Thanks for your feedback! :blush:

    This is a great idea!. Would add some controlled variance.

  • auxmuxauxmux

    I'm not sure if this has been asked, but is it possible to match clips colors to the pads on the Launchpad X?

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