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Great, thanks:)
Rim
Fair answer.
I ve ve done all the usual delete app. Reload app. Restore purchased upgrade etc.....
This.
Let me clarify: Everyone absolutely has the right to complain about what they think is bad. But please keep it civil. And also consider *where* you're doing this. As a fellow developer it hurts me to see a launch thread of a new app basically derailed by a user demanding something/demanding something that they claim had been promised. In Monzo's case that was a the case twice now (that I witnessed).
First with Fugue Machine's routing (Monzo expected more options) and now with Auria's supposed promised update pricing/rebate or whatever. Rim (Auria's developer) has already commented that he never promised any such thing. So I warned Monzo to turn it down. And of course he snapped.
I had a *very, very, very long* conversation with him the first time via PM. This time I didn't have the nerve to put on silk gloves. And of course he overreacted, announcing his account deletion. This kind of behaviour is very well known of very active members of online communities who sometimes showcase toxic behavior. I've been there. Seen it. I might have been that person myself once. I've been the moderator who dealt with it before. I'm doing it again here.
If he feels like coming back, nobody is stopping him.
After reading through this thread, yes Flo your right, this forum is better than this.
+1000
Rim
And then a couple of people really got personal, throwing insults around quite unnecessarily, and that definitely was not Monzo's doing.
By ignoring the toxic comment "Can we get a donation can set up for the starving third world iPad Audio-producing children of England, please?" from @AQ808 and the other from Chrisg - "go about whatever the fuck it was you were doing before this" you've not just allowed the thread to get over heated (I responded, of course I did), but showing some very obvious bias against me.
I might moan about pricing (check the Auria forum, I'm not the only one), but at least I don't get personal (the response to @AQ808 was a rare slip-up).
No public telling off and shaming for the one's who made personal attacks against me? No, thought not.
Gee I'm sad
And thanks to WML!
Yeah and I have serious issues with the cheap positioning Monzo did...your opinion on who's in the right holds no more weight than anyone else. And I have to get right to the point, your comparison of the fighting in this thread to the recent Paris attack is disgusting.
I do consider the attitudes of @monzo ;on this board to be toxic. It's not the first time I've said this, and I've never stopped thinking it. He's taken a contrarian position on pricing on this board numerous times. It comes off as insulting to developers and an implication of greed. And imo, he can fuck right off for that. I am not going to sugarcoat it, others in this very thread have done that already.
The only answer that would appease him would be for Rim to lower his discount price on launch day!
How low would it have to go to for someone with "mouths to feed" as their reasoning?
I mean, if you are that close to the edge, surely selling all your devices to help your kids get by for a few more months until they can fall on your country's social service safety net is your best option?
He was bullying a guy who spent at least two years working on this update, and guess what, the only people who might be the most interested in this to actually buy it are those who already own the original version.
Since that is likely his biggest market for the release, he has to charge for that or risk not making money, and I have to assume, not have food for his own kids.
Worst release date thread-jack in audiobus forum history!