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Ah, I see. MB is a multi-band compressor. Then that would be the best bet. I don't have it myself.
Its an old 80's master I did with my band and we wanna touch it up.
Only way i could think with eq is a really narrow notch in L/R mode if the crash is panned but it would still affect anything in that freq range but i know Pro-Q is pretty advanced. MB could work like a de-esser just to pull the volume down on that crash, you could automate the compressor just to come on during that section or when the crash hits if compression would be affecting anything else.
How much to compress or how deep to limit is the compressor's (limiter) job, EQ gives you the range. EQ only do static limiting by it's fixed depth range, Pro-MB do dynamic depth range! His question is ask for sudden depth if conditions applied, so that condition needs automatic depth arrangement! In iOS, there is only Pro-MB can do auto compression when that frequency spike applied!
EQ is a muffler, you don't do muffling stuff to kill all sounds just for spikes!
Thanks for the tips. If you had to choose between Saturn, timeless or THM which would you get?
And, of course, no one mentions Pro-L, the limiter. More secret sauce. I am not entirely sure what the hell it's doing, either, on top of just pumping up and levelling the volume, but it does wonderful, beautiful things as well. Just seems to add a creamy lusciousness to everything. Which is totally unscientific and non-technical, but that's about the size of it.
Thanks Kaikoo!
Can one use ProMB for compressing instruments during tracking?
Sorry, I don't know the meaning much? Do you mean realtime compressing when you recording or playing at the same time? If so, the answer is yes. Pro-MB can do single or multi-band EQ plus Compression and Expansion. I recently purchase Pro-C2, I like both! If you also want Pro-L, I recommend Pro-MB with Pro-L (dithering). Fabfilters' products are well intermingle each other. So they diversify their product to suit more than one function. So, it is hard to choose from. But, Pro-MB is really easy to use!
Btw, Pro-MB and Pro-C2 will not cause you too much CPU consumption. Only Saturn chews lots from you.
I would also like people's views on this one.
Timeless, because it's very versatile and powerful, then Saturn, then THM.
Saturn can do most of what THM can and a whole lot it can't. Two birds, one stone, and all that. Timeless is amazing too. THM isn't bad, but the other two are great.
Thanks man, could you shed some light to this newbee what are the things in Saturn you speak of onbregards to Saturn bs THM? Thanks!
As an electric guitar player should I still get THM or is Saturn and Timeless enough?
THM is specifically a guitar amp modeler. Marshall, Fender and so on. It sounds pretty good and some will argue it sounds "best". You can easily run multiple instances of it. I find the UI less than optimum and the fx are good, but basic. For me, it is good, but I don't use it very often. For basic guitar tones I use Tonestack and record the audio once I am happy with the tone.
Saturn is a distortion wundermachine. It can add subtle tape saturation to a mix, rough up a drum loop or mutilate anything. The LFOs add twists and turns. Add Timeless into the fray and stuff can get crazy. Downsides are that Saturn can be a CPU pig and it takes more effort if the goal is to emulate a specific guitar amp.
Of course the answer is get both. But having said that I don't find THM to be indispensable. I already have Tonestack, JamUp, Bias and Haggis, so this may add to my feeling that while THM is quite good it isn't as essential as Saturn and Timeless.
THM sounds like it would replicate what I've already got in Flying Haggis and Tonestack. Might get Saturn and Timeless as the special will end soon. Is THM ever on special?
I can't find much on Volcano. Here or on the Auria forum. What do you all use it for? I have Saturn and love it to death. I think I'll get Volcano regardless, but.....just tell me why it's so awesome, please.
How do you use Saturn?
Well, so far in my limited use of it. I like to stick it on my Bass guitar tracks. It adds some great sounding warm distortion to it. Even if I have a distorted preset I'm using from Bias Amps, I still use it.
Sometimes for guitar tracks, I just use Saturn, especially under the guitar amps section. Tweak them a bit, some cool sounds are possible.
I can't remember if I used it on my Rise of the Capacitor song at all. I might have. That's a more, well full boar electronic song.
I found this for some examples on Volcano. I gotta say, I don't think I would use it if this is all it does. There has got to be more right?
At the end of the article there are 6 or 6 quick demo's.
http://www.musicradar.com/reviews/tech/fabfilter-volcano-2-166574
Volcano is filtery modulation. It has a simularity to SugarBytes WOW, but they each have their own interesting aspects.
Only go for it if you want filtery modulation.
I think its a blast to play with actually, even just learning things from the presets is entertaining.
But these FabFilter plugins are 10 times more difficult to understand and master than they seem with their gorgeous and logical GUIs. The way you can link and create things makes them somewhat modular, and thus can be a rathole.
Thinking in terms of what you desire to do, supposed you have Twin2 only. Actually, you can just have Twin2 oscillators, then use Volcano and Timeless, you have plenty of presets from those two.
So, that is your more sophisticated Twin-Volcano-Timeless 2-1-2 synth!
How that sounds? Weirdo?
There are great videos on all of the FabFil stuff. Check Youtube.
From the point of view of a guitar player, if you have some amp modellers already, then forget thm. Saturn and timeless will do what they do, plus are great on other instruments as well. Volcano I have had less use for, but the presets are pretty crazy. I need to spend time with it. I'm a preset guy mostly. It sure does have a lot of interesting sounds, but I'm still more of a guitar/bass/percussion/keyboard guy, and things like volcano are probably more useful to heavy synth users.
Ya! unless you guys want to do guitar trance with Volcano.
Thanks for the replies/thoughts everyone. Appreciate it!
Guitar trance sounds like fun.
Saturns (up to) 6 bands can also act as flangers.Yes.Flangers.Up to SIX parallel
Each band modulated by LFO's or step sequencer.Saturn can even work as a transient designer.
beautiful red colorful interface, especially have that white motion histogram on.
Same here...as a guitar player with Tonestack and the whole mother ship I think it will be over the top. Maybe Timeless for the incredible delays and modulations.
Thnks all!
I use guitar all the time in my electronic music songs, loads of fun making trippy sounds that way
The only Fabfilter's I've held off of are pro mb, g, and l. I know it's been talked about here before, but is there an opinion on the use of these if I don't plan on mastering my own tunes? Or do they have a place in the mix? I don't mind the cost, I'm an appaholic- just afraid of doing more harm than good, and have the preconceived notion that if I ever actually finished a collection of songs (house, electro- whatnot), would like to have a professional ear polish out the finished product.
I bought ReTune "while I was at it" buying several other plugins that were on sale shortly after I first got Auria. Since then, I've seen the bad press and can understand why ... It may fix a sour note, but it noticeably changes the vocal tone, which makes it mostly unusable.
Except I recently used it to salvage a backing vocal section I really didn't want to re-record, where just a note or two were unforgivably off. Threw ReTune on the backing vocal bus and BAM! Fixed! And this is a super secret song I intend to sell. For money. So for me, since they're practically giving it away compared to, say, Pro-MB, it's worth having in the toolbox. Might be just what you need in a pinch.
To be fair, I had a few backup plans (vocal apps as yet untried in the IAA slot for pitch correction), but this time, ReTune worked quite nicely. For backing vox. That were already soaked in reverb/delay. After twiddling a few knobs I don't really understand. In a sequence I could never repeat. So.