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Apologies for blatant self promotion of tracks - but if you want to hear what Volcano does, have a listen to the pad instrument in this track (the track actually begins with it).
It's a pad part I made in Gadget, but I turned off the filter completely in Gadget and took the stem into Auria. I automated Volcano's filters all over it throughout the track, getting it to self oscillate (all the spacey pops you hear) and producing two layers of filter movement. The result is satisfyingly fizzy I think... This is what Volcano is good at (although it looks to me that it's basically built into the twin2 synth). I think there might be a subtle bit of timeless delay on it too.
Great example - and overall track!
Wow, ditto on the great track! Damn catchy tune. The synth sounds are excellent. Not sure if it would be a necessity for me, but for 15 bucks I may just get it. But......I know Drum Perfect Pro is coming out as well. So.........Decisions need to be made, life and ~~dea~~....err music desicions...........
Very nice Matt! You can make things talk!
Oh, ye!
Use Pro-MB to automatically protect your HOUSE and Electro transient drum sound or any sound when you are doing up/downward compression, at the same time limited the range from EQing, all at same time with multiple bands! could anything better than this simple plugin?
Kaikoo
You recommend getting Pro Q2 and MB for tracking vocals bass and guitars?
Been running an MS2000R (on which I was doing some patch development using the excellent MysteryIslands MS2K VST plugin controller
) through Saturn, Timeless and Volcano this evening. I've had all those for a while, but, just to mention that you're not limited to running other iPad apps or guitar through them (via Auria) 
(Using the FF FX in Auria as outboard FX via an iCM4+).
If you are going to buy single band Pro C2, then Pro C2 is sufficient to do compression job. If you think single band side-chain is important feature, then Pro MB is not necessary.
Pro-Q2 has deeper EQ complexity that PRO-MB does not have.
If you want pure more advanced mixing and limiting and recording out, then ProMB + Pro L is a good combination because you also has EQ thing in Pro MB.
Pro MB can not do deep curvature EQ applied to restrict narrow zone that Pro Q2 can do. So the question is what is your purpose for, so you can decide which combination is better for you.
Generally, Pro-MB is very sophisticated but simple to use and very dynamic multi-bands at compression and expansion.
Please, re-read what I wrote, @Tone4Christ.
Thanks @PhilW @funjunkie27 @High5denied
Some fellow said (without naming, but he didn't have to) here in the forum that Fabfilter's IAP are overpriced. Not simply expensive: overpriced. Laughable.
Nice track, @Matt_Fletcher_2000!
Thanks Kaikoo!
Here is what o plan to do. I was blessed to get a Sonic Port VX for Christmas and will be doing mostly out of location recordings. I plan to use some of the church's really quiet rooms to do some vocal and acoustic guitar tracking. So I really need something that will help me create the best mix as I wont be able to be doing that every day. For vocals I wanted to see if I can use Pro-Q2 to EQ incoming vocal or acoustic guitar tracks. And I wondered if I could get dual use of Pro-MB as a compressor for the vocals for those chorus moments when the singer gets pretty loud and I can control the input signal as to not over clip the inputs. As I have very limited resources, I wanted to use Pro-MB this way. I don't plan to record live drums. I do plan on recording Bass though, but that's going to go in via the VX. I wanna also save $10 bucks to buy the Tonestack mother ship as it has a lot of Bass amps in this update.
Hope I made sense as to what I plan yo do. Oh, I will be mastering my own projects too, so that is what I also wanted these two plug-ins.
Pro-MB can do wonderful things on a buss or full mix. But it's a resource hog. I can't envision a scenario where it would be any better on an individual track than the PSP channel strip. But I'm still learning, so ... FWIW
I didn't think I'd need G, but sometimes Saturn introduces some unwanted noise in quiet parts of my electric guitar, which I'm assuming are coming from some small amount of noise on the recording. The gate in Auria's channel strip doesn't always seem to handle this. However, Pro-G has this lovely little preset, "Guitar Before Distortion", which cleans it up perfectly.
Pro-L is for me mainly a mix/mastering tool. Not only does it work really well, smoothing things out and setting the volume the way I want, it just seems to do it in a way that makes it all more cohesive. I have not bought DS, (not a singer,) and have not bought MB. I have a feeling I will pick up MB at some point, but as I have enough to learn as it is with what I have, maybe not for a while.
For vocals I wanted to see if I can use Pro-Q2 to EQ incoming vocal or acoustic guitar tracks. And I wondered if I could get dual use of Pro-MB as a compressor for the vocals for those chorus moments when the singer gets pretty loud and I can control the input signal as to not over clip the inputs.
No, don't use pro mb that way, it won't matter because it's after the conversion. Make sure your peaks are around -18 and that will leave plenty of headroom. Recording a low level on input prevents clipping, and in 24 bit is not an issue at all. If you're using pro mb to commit to your compression so you don't have to do it later (if you had to, compression isn't mandatory), then that's cool but it won't prevent clipping of the inputs. Also, a little Mic technique on the singer's part goes a long way!
Sorry, half a post, the forum seems to be having difficulty on safari on iPhone today...
Thank you @Kaikoo, I just made the purchase.
Been sitting on the fence, as Pro-MB seems as intimidating to me as it useful. It's a good thing I don't have a wife or kids, I doubt I'd make the time to assimilate all this information
@rickwaugh Thanks for the advice, just picked up G and L, might as well dive in now. So much to learn, must try to prevent my feeble mind from blowing a gasket
Yup, it's really all about having the time to spend, more than the cost. But I find with the Fabfilter stuff, that the presets are amazing all by themselves, and at least a good starting point. I ended up buying the Twin 2 presets as well, and they are pretty awesome, and there are lots of them.
Do most of you record at 24 bit instead of 16?
Yes, always at 24 if possible. I'm referring to recording live instruments though, not soft synths inside a daw, where it makes less of a difference (but I still do 24 bit when it is possible to do so).
As, in places, I'm still on the very fence you have so recently vacated, I would appreciate any first thoughts you have once you've played with your new purchases, especially as regards ease of use/facile utility etc.
To hell with it, picked up MB as well. I don't spend much time outside of Auria, will give it a run.
Of course @JohnnyGoodyear, I spent the evening watching YouTube instructionals and playing with new toys, will report back soon.
I really haven't had many occasions to stay on the fence when it comes to hitting that purchase button (hi I'm Noah, and I'm an appaholic), save for these last few Fabfilter plug-ins. Just realized I've been lurking as a member of this forum since Jan 2013 and never have had much to contribute, as most of my questions get answered before I have to ask. Solid crew here, everyone is so helpful, thanks again @Kaikoo and @rickwaugh
Always use 24bit. Pro-MB seems way overkill for the uses people are mentioning in this thread IMVHO, but if it works for you, by all means go for it. If you're struggling to get the results you want with Pro-MB, might be worth stepping back and focusing on Pro-C until you are comfortable not only with how a singleband compressor works in theory, but also learning how to listen for when you're over-compressing things.
Also (pro-tip) just because you have the option to use many bands in Pro-MB, doesn't mean you have to. Most professional mixing or mastering engineers I know tend to only use one or two bands just to tame problematic frequencies.
Good luck!
Thanks for sharing your wisdom- really appreciate the advice. I think "struggling to get results" sums up what I've been going through tonight. I usually subscribe to the "keep it simple, stupid" brand of logic when it comes to crafting tunes, but I had been curious to know what pro-mb could do for a track, and had to try it. What's the best/ most helpful use of mb compression in your experience? Strictly mastering, or other mixing duties as well?
He does not use Pro MB, He uses words to compress us. I guess!
@Noah, Of all the Auria Pro Plugin, I confess I like PSP Echo most!
The only thing I've ever used Pro-MB for is fixing specific issues in mastering when the producer could not go back and adjust the mixdown for some reason. Maybe there was a guitar part that is just a bit too dynamic, but reducing with EQ affects other frequencies too. Or perhaps the bassline and kick drum are balanced well in terms of volume, but one is hitting my limiter harder than I want. I almost always and just using one very frequency specific band to solve a problem, it's not something I would for on every track.
It's a VERY useful and powerful tool to have, but I don't think it's something essential to the production process for most people (my own $0.02 I know). Even in mastering, I maybe use once or twice a year out of the thousand plus tracks I might have worked on.
One thing that I think Pro MB is really good for is for processing drum loops - the results you get with Pro MB are noticeably different to what you would get from using EQ alone, since you are affecting the dynamics as well as the tone. So if you have a loop that needs more power in the kick drum for example, Pro MB might be more effective than Pro Q.
I could definitely see that.
Thanks @richardyot - I just bought proMB based on that useful post. Gets over the fact that ElasticDrums, iElectribe, Patterning etc don't have separate audio outs for their different drum sounds.