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Thank you for your kind words. It is indeed a bit too long and static for foreground music.
Thanks for listening.
I think we're all hoodoo gibberish my friend, with a little heartbreak or exaltation when the going's good
Brilliant, loved that.
Fantastic vocal - one of the best we've had on SOTMC. Flawless production, good mix, great playing, nice use of effects. Loved the vocal melody as well, especially in the first verse. I like the 60's influence, it's all very good.
If I was producing this I might suggest adding some vocal harmonies in parts, for example in the "Mother Nature look what's been done" bit. Also maybe some more variation in the melodies, but these are small nits and this is a very good contribution.
@JeffChasteen Good choice of sample - that vocal sample really makes the track, and I also love the title. The track is a little too long and formless for me overall though, it would be good if there was an additional development to keep the interest going, but lots of good and creative ideas in there. Probably just needs more structure/story to bring it to life.
Thank you for your kind words.
That's not a sample, but rather my own dulcet tones that I tracked live while watching some tv show about murder on the bayou. Glad you liked it.
I agree with you; it could do with more structure.
Thanks for listening.
Cool, that's a very creative way to make a vocal track.
I wrote this song years ago, but never recorded it. I thought it would be a good idea to use something familiar as my first attempt at taking a song to a finish on an iPad. It is composed of: live 12-string (mostly harmonics), Lyra (bass, piano), Thumbjam (Cello), Miroslav Orchestra/SampleTank (flute). Effects include Pro-Q 2, Pro-C 2, and Altispace, all mixed in Auria Pro.
As songwriting has always been something I’ve only done for fun, I’ve been very lackadaisical about the production of my music. I was mainly interested in making a copy of a song before I forgot it, and perhaps sharing it with a few friends. But reading all of you on this forum has encouraged me to try to up my game.
My ears are shot from standing in front of too many Marshall stacks when I was as teenager, so I do wonder if it is even possible for me to do a mix. (With this worry, I began by arranging the song with voices in contrasting tonal ranges.) I look forward to your comments as I very much need the help.
Very nice, specially the 12-string part. Congrats!
@reid, that's a great song, great arrangement. Love the strings, the piano All the instruments sound fantastic. On the mix, the vocals, (in my opinion,) and the piano are a bit too far forward. You lose the guitar underneath them. You obviously want the vocal to be featured in this song, and be surrounded and bouyed by the music, but I think it's just tad too forward. I especially noticed when the voice came in at the beginning, and when the piano came in.
But that's a pretty darn fine tune.
@Reid
Soft and nicely done ! Nice voice ! Just to bug you a bit on production :
Thanks for sharing !
@achromus Nice instrumental, it picks up particularly well when the drums come in. It could maybe do with some hooks to make it more memorable though. Although there's nothing wrong with the musical content, the music is good, I think Gadget instrumentals really need something special to make them stand out from the crowd these days.
(edit) Sorry if I sounded a bit dismissive here - I did actually like the track, I'm just starting to suffer from a bit of Gadget fatigue, I'm sure it will pass in a few days time.
@Reid very strong first entry - welcome to the club. To my ears the production is fine, especially for a first entry, although it sounds like maybe the vocals and the guitar were recorded on the same microphone which means there is a hint of background noise when the vocals aren't present.
I think the vocal melody could do with a little more variation, but the vibe is really good. Some vocal pads might be nice in places, to add a different kind of texture. But I think this is all really promising and look forward to hearing you post some more songs in the coming months. Good vocal delivery.
So you have a harmony part from the bloke from Yes and you haven't used it, nice
You said you were buying a synth, does that mean next month we can hear a synth/vocal track from you - if so I am really looking forward to that. If you can blend the great vocal from your submission this month with some more innovative music you will be a force to be reckoned with!
@DD829 Those chords.....yum! They give such a wonderful edge to your tune & fit so well, making it a very interesting listen. I can only second what has been said about the quality of your vocals & the whole production. It leaves me feeling kinda psychedelic, dreamy & relaxed. I like how at 2.50 the tambourine takes over the beat duties from the lower in the mix snare. The snare also changes from left to right pan which is unusual & effective. What is that sound at 3.55? It sounds like a gentle whoopy cushion & is always most welcome! Look forward to seeing where you go from here.
@JeffChasteen Fabulously warped intro. Sounded like a storm of mosquitoes circling above a stagnant swamp hunting for humans to bleed dry. The mossys backed off & continued lower in the mix allowing your beautiful slide guitar work to break through. It's the star of the show & slide is something that isn't used enough for me. I'm glad you wanted & played it in your song. You've got a stunning Indian type rhythm with those bongos & they calmly nail your tune down. Like Johnny said, it's tricky to understand the words but that's it's charm. Hoodoo gibberish, ghostly, eerie, imaginative & unique. What's not to like! Smooth job sir.
@theconnactic Thank you for the encouragement. I really appreciate it. The 12 string was one take of course. The rest took a billion tries.
@rickwaugh Thank you. I will bring the vocal and piano down. And the flute. I’m glad you like the song.
@crony As I am a noob and very insecure, I mixed this thing on really good monitor speakers, three headphones (including earbuds), my iPad speaker, a jambox and my computer speaker. On everything it sounded dramatically different. In some cases the piano sounded right to my (flawed) ears, and in some it clanged like a bell tower. I tried everything, but you all have kindly showed me—turn down the fricking vocal, piano and flute!! And you are so right, the flute stops. Believe me, I wanted to fix that, but it would have involved fixing the cello and I got tired…
The reason for all those clicks and weird noises is all the patching I did to try to get the singing and playing right. I am not a good singer, but with a few days of patching I am a tolerable singer—with a lot of bad recording glitches apparently. I don’t think I will fix those things. I’m on to the next song, and trust me, this is already the best production I’ve done. With everybody’s advice it will be much better.
@richardyot Thanks a lot, Richard. In fact they were recorded on the same microphone but not at the same time. The thing that concerns me much more is that the vocals were recorded on many different days, in my never-ending attempt to get them to sound on-key. This might be the background noise you are hearing—the different ambiances on different days. You’re totally right about the lack of melodic variety. Most of my songs have more.
The happiest feedback I’m getting here is that the vocals are okay. Whew! I’m thinking about using something more vocoderish next time out. But perhaps the problem was that the 12-fret harmonics stuck me with Em. Next time out I can pick my key.
@Reid, your voice and vocals are good. What are you using for a DAW? Should be able to not get clicks on pops when doing punch-ins, that's just a normal process. If you try to cut in the middle of a note, that can be a problem, but if you hit a space, you should be fine. I use Auria, and it also has nice "silence" selection, where you can zoom in on a pop, select it, and silence it, which basically flattens the sound wave. Have a look in your recording software for that. That of course only works if it's by itself, not laid over other sounds.
I’m really impressed by the quality and talent on display here. But even more—the diversity. And I thank you for all the help you have generously given me.
Here are my two cents…
@theconnactic You are an incredibly talented musician, I love that you play live. Extra points for being a Carioca. I love this song switches back and forth from the percussive guitar and bass to the more traditional samba interludes at 1:07 and later on. Nice contrast. The way you have laid the whole piece out gives it real energy and momentum. A bit of this wouldn’t feel out of place as a solo in a Steely Dan song PS. Bass solo!!
@igneous1 This is super-cool. It’s beautifully played and produced.
My only thought is that it stays in the same basic melodic spirit all the way through. There are infinite opportunities to take a left turn into a different key, rhythm, musical style along the way. Or switch back and forth like @theconnactic did so well. Or build it a bit.
@rickwaugh Damn, not another one of those Spanish/Japanese thingies in the Locrian mode! You've created your own genre. I never knew where it was going to end up. Here’s my weird thought: what if you added flamenco rhythm loops to this? You can get castanets and claps, foot stomps, even women singing. You could build it up into something massive and have a real dramatic finish. (I actually own two sets, so if you’re intrigued by the idea, I can point you in the right direction. I've promised Marinus that one of these days I will make a flamenco Drumperfect kit.)
@orchardman This is a beautiful melody, beautifully sung (kudos to your wife) and well arranged and played. There’s a lot of variation in the parts, which I like. If I’m correct it is:
Intro /5-6 Choruses /brief inst/ Verse One / brief instr/ Verse 2/long instrumental/ pad/chorus plays out over pad. In all it is a 5 ½ minute very good song. But I believe that somewhere in there is a really terrific 3 ½ minute song. Also, what were you thinking about when you (and your wife?) wrote this song? In the chorus I feel a sadness, a woman talking to a guy who won’t commit. Perhaps the verses could tell more of a story about a couple going from one place in their lives to another? The lyrics are more general, so IMHO they don’t feed the chorus.
@dd829 I would love to hear this, but for some reason, your link is blocked to my computer and iPad. I’ll keep trying, and when I do I’ll post something.
@JeffChasteen This is an amazing soundscape. I think it could be a really great soundtrack to a short film, or some kind of performance piece, like a dance. You are very talented. But still, you build an unique and amazing world of textures on top of what is essentially a drone. As I wrote to @igneous, there is a universe of things you can do beyond building everything on top of one thing and then fading out. And as I wrote in my note to @orchardman, I think this would be if it was shorter. Of course, as a writer by trade, I think everything is better if it’s shorter.
@achromus I like this a lot. You say it is a work in progress and I think it has real potential.
Still I think it could benefit from having less in the mix, being more minimal. For example, at the beginning you have a synthy thing, to which you add a dramatic walking bass pattern. You then bring in a high plucked sound. The bass and the pluck could be very John Carpenter, but because there is also the synth in there, the contrast IMHO is muted. A bass like that suggests that a build is coming.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I think you ladle out your musical story too slowly and it goes on too long. You don’t add drums until around 3 minutes into this 5 minute song. I mean this in the most positive way, because I think you are talented.. If it was shorter, the things that represent you at your most inspired would stand out in greater relief. Like that little beat you take at 3:49. Wonderful!
Just made another song, this time using Garageband as a hub. Had to mix in Auria, though, because it's really a nightmare to do that in GB. Have a nice week! Dimitri.
Hello all, I'm new to the CREATIONS page and I'm hoping to contribute more in the future. Being a good citizen, I though I'd check out all your tracks first to give comments.
@theconnactic - Nervoso:
Very sophisticated. Sounds like something my dad would put on low in the background while we have dinner. Which is a compliment! My dad loves this kinda global beat music. He'd dig this. (My taste in music is way less refined!)
@Igneous1 - Port Royale:
Lots of nice elements. I really like the bits where it breaks down and there's less going on (just a preference). It could be my sh*tty headphones, but it sounds a bit muddy around the mid-range. Can't give you specifics, I'm pretty much a novice with mastering, but perhaps some EQing might help? Cut some frequencies on some of the tracks?
@rickwaugh - Mixed Messages:
I love the guitar work and the swelling up and down in the track. But, not keen personally on the patch used on the Geoshred. imo, the GeoShred might work better transposed down and used as a bassline and then bring the guitar volume up in the mix.
@orchardman - Sing With Me:
Sounds very polished. I think a lot of people would dig this.
@DD829 - Beyond Reality:
I think you've nailed the vibe that I presume you're going for!
@JeffChasteen - My Life of Forgery:
My favourite so far that's close to the kind of stuff I like and listen to. I think you could even go darker, weirder, and more reverb. Check out a podcast called Sadayatana for the kind of stuff I'm thinking.
@achromus - Oral Play:
As said, nice synth work. I like the very first synth sound (Check out Vector Lovers - 'Neon Sky Rain' for similar) and the bass riff from 2:49.
@Reid - Trust the Silence:
Has a kind of classic sound. Almost like a Bowie or Bryan Ferry. I can't give any constructive feedback because the level of artistry and musicality in this is way beyond my level and understanding!
Ed
Great track. Enjoyed muchly. You might want to check out the world sounds IAP in Synthmaster if you haven't already, would complement this style nicely. Particularly enjoyed the piano: great variety in chords, feel, technique.
Pretty, soothing - your wife has a lovely voice.
@Reid lovely song, beautifully sung. I am no expert at mixing but I thought the mix for the most part was right. Maybe bring the guitar up a little and cello under the flute solo. I look forward to hearing more from you in the future.
@achromus well put together track with some nice synth sounds. Not really my sort of thing but that's the great thing about this thread, it shows that there is such a wide range of music being made on iOS devices.
@achromus So does Gadget comes up with its own title? I haven't dipped my big toe into that huge pond yet so just interested. What stuck out on first listen was the structure. You change chords on 5/7/11 & 15 beat. It's that unexpected sequence that after a few more sittings laid rock hard foundations for you to build on & an enjoyable listen. It became its heartbeat & the choice of chords played are beautifully entwined. Almost melancholic in feel. Maybe the smooth, cool, laid back drums could have entered your party earlier but that's why it stands out, because you chose to play them where you did. That you came out of those drum sections on a bass drum beat at 3.35 & 4.35 made me happy. (little things).
Very nice.
Thanks for the feedback. Funny you should mention Dido. My original idea for this song was that the verses were going to be a rap. Luckily I decided that the Welsh Eminem I am not.
@crony thanks for the feedback on my song.
Thanks for the feedback I'm afraid the Swansea accent is difficult to disguise even when singing. By your use of the word tidy to describe the song can I deduce that there may be a little Celt in you also. The crash cymbal was to hide the transition between the middle part and the quiet synths. This song took an age to put together and I just couldn't get the transition right. In the end I got lazy and stuck a loud cymbal over it.
Thanks for the feedback
@Reid thanks for the feedback I'm glad you enjoyed it.