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  • it's still light on the editing side. That's one place where a DAW, (depending on the DAW,) outworks it. I do a lot of silencing, cutting, pasting, and audio warping in Auria Pro to clean up my messes. That's still not there yet in this, at least I don't think so. Unless there is another app to use. This is all very modular, which is one of the nice things about it, being able to pull in different pieces.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @StormJH1 said:
    I think this is an auto-buy just because of the developer's pedigree, but I'm a little confused as to how it actually works. It looks like it could be anything ranging from a glorified version of the recorder in AudioShare (which does AB/IAA instrument and FX nesting) to an "almost DAW". Though unless there is actual ability to edit and move audio, I don't consider that a "DAW".

    My current state of mind well stated. I am optimistic, enthusiastic and confused (a trinity that has served me pretty well truth be told).

    I haven't actually used the app yet but from here, I'd approach AUM as a really well spec'd, extremely flexible mixer (that comes with bonus recording features).

    Also, it will work as an 'outside the box' mixer/router. You could plug a pair of mics and a few instruments into your multi-channel audio interface and mix them live. You can also route things to discreet output channels. That might be for external processing or, particularly in a live situation, to send yourself a monitor feed (hello, Loopy click track) that's separate/different from the main feed to the room.

    Also also, AUM looks to be completely AB compatible—make AB chains, send each into the inputs of this app (inserted into the AB output). Mix away. In addition to mixing AUM adds a crucial (to me anyway) missing element from the AB connection graph: send amount. AB effects are entirely based on the insert paradigm. Now we can have both. Plus M/S processing and handy things like HPFs. Plus MIDI control. Used Korg NanoKontrols are cheap!

    Would be interesting to know if we could use this as a front end for something like MTD where instead of recording each bus to its own audio file, we could instead select each bus as an IAA track input to MTD (or BM2 or your low overhead IAA supporting DAW of choice). Honestly, I haven't used IAA enough to know if this sort of thing is even possible. @j_liljedahl?

    @StormJH1 said:
    My definition isn't any better than yours, but a "DAW" for me needs to be something that allows for multiple tracks to be recorded, and then probably also allows for arranging between various tracks with cut/copy, moving clips to different parts of the song, etc. With AudioBus's routing capabilities, virtually any app that can function as an AB Output slot could be a multi-source recorder, but I don't consider that a DAW if it can only record a single mixdown.

    AUM sorta falls right in between. It is capable of recording multiple tracks (one per input and/or one per bus, I'm not quite sure) but we haven't seen anything that looks like an editor. It's more like an your 4-track than a traditional DAW (though overdubbing doesn't really appear to be a part of the equation).

  • edited February 2016

    It's more like an your 4-track than a traditional DAW (though overdubbing doesn't really appear to be a part of the equation).

    Come to think of it, since AUM has audio file channels, 'overdubbing' is totally possible. Just load the recorded files (or the mix down) as a channel. Could be made more fluid to the user with something like an optional post-recording auto load. After recording, present a dialog like "Load recorded tracks into new Audio File channels?" with the options [Yes, All Tracks] | [Yes, Mix Down Only] | [No].

    Though that might be pushing it too far into DAW land.

  • @StormJH1 said:

    @GovernorSilver said:
    I forget some people get really particular about what a "DAW" is. For me, it's just a multitrack recorder, but DAW takes less letters to type.

    I do most of my recording to Audioshare - obviously when I just want to do a one-take recording of a stereo signal.

    My definition isn't any better than yours, but a "DAW" for me needs to be something that allows for multiple tracks to be recorded, and then probably also allows for arranging between various tracks with cut/copy, moving clips to different parts of the song, etc. With AudioBus's routing capabilities, virtually any app that can function as an AB Output slot could be a multi-source recorder, but I don't consider that a DAW if it can only record a single mixdown. For example, AudioShare is extremely useful, but it is not a DAW.

    Some people go as far as to say that if you don't have audio track recording, you aren't a true DAW, but I think apps like Caustic and Gadget have enough other functionality (and workarounds to incorporate audio sources) that I would include them as DAW's.

    Excited to check out AUM!

    Yeah, what AUM would deliver over Audioshare is multiple track recording.

    Currently I turn to Cubasis if I need multi track recording on iPad. For my simple needs (I play guitar and viola, don't do a lot of sophisticated MIDI sequencing, don't need anything that requires everything in the world to be auto-synced, etc.) I suspected I'd use AUM more than Cubasis.

    I admit to using Gadget a bit more than Caustic but when someone asks for app recommendations, it seems like people just don't pay attention to his/her individual needs and desires.

  • Can't wait for this!! .... But when will it be ready?
    Got limited funds...... If this is 2 months away I could snag gadget now while on discount.....
    Don't want to hold tight miss gadget then wait 2 months for this.
    Has the creator of this app ( and many other amazing apps) spoken recently, unless I missed it
    I am not moaning, just damn skint
    Peace love and beats

  • Oh whoops, I had to check after @Nicebutfun 's question - I assumed it had been submitted, but I'm not sure there was any indication of that in the thread - just that it looked close and says "Coming soon".

    Whether or not I use it "like a DAW", I still think looking at the screenshots and features that it will be a nice expansion on the utility of AudioShare. I use AudioShare a TON for sampling - both into apps and especially now that I picked up a Volca Sample. It's infinitely fun to waste time grabbing sounds from different apps and importing them into AudioShare. Except that to do that, you often have to switch back and forth between the apps, or hope that the mini-controls work properly (if it's a AB chain). The touch MIDI keyboard within AUM may not seem like a huge thing, but if I can now trigger simple notes in the apps I'm recording, that's a major convenience.

  • I've got the feeling that it has been submitted, as the software page on the kymatica website is updated, and if I recall correctly, sector dropped less than a week after the first tease video

    This app seems to be the missing piece in my ios music app puzzle, making live jamming much more fun and productive (now we need the fugue machine multi playhead update and more Link apps !)

    I can't wait !

  • @pierre said:
    I've got the feeling that it has been submitted, as the software page on the kymatica website is updated, and if I recall correctly, sector dropped less than a week after the first tease video

    This app seems to be the missing piece in my ios music app puzzle, making live jamming much more fun and productive (now we need the fugue machine multi playhead update and more Link apps !)

    I can't wait !

    Can't wait either. :) He announced that its "not long now" on his Twitter feed 4 days ago. The current average review time in the App Store is 4 days. http://appreviewtimes.com

    So, if he did indeed submit & if there aren't any snags, that would put either today or tomorrow for it going live.

    Just armchair speculation though. ;) lol

  • Definitely the season out there right now. Wonder what else is in the hopper....

  • Just noticed that a parametric EQ is included along with the filters. That is epic. Wonder if there are plans to eventually include AUFX:push so that we don't need to try to run multiple AUs (which iOS probably isn't quite up to yet, particularly in live situation). I'd happily pony up IAP money for that or any of the AUFX apps to be built directly into AUM; I'd much rather pay extra for stability Kymatica manages vs using Apple APIs.

    Can any of the testers share a screenshot of "MIDI Matrix for routing MIDI anywhere" (with J Lilla's permission, of course).

  • and Link support?

    SUATMM.

  • What's the "G" here? Anyone know?

  • @1P18 said:
    What's the "G" here? Anyone know?

    It's 'Gambi'
    http://appshopper.com/music/gambi

  • @Audiojunkie and @Samu

    Thanks for the replies. I was hoping the developer was giving us a sneak peak at an upcoming app.

  • @Carnbot said:

    @supadom said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @supadom said:

    @Carnbot said:
    Looks great! I hope you can save configurations as presets

    Supports Audiobus state saving :#

    Any only AB state saving? Not AUM presets?

    I'm pretty sure it will support that as well, just not sure if right away. So it seems like it's in review.

    Yeah hope it's got it's own preset system so that if you were using just AUs then everything is saved ..fingers crossed.

    It does! All state of Audio Unit extensions, and the mixer itself of course, and MIDI routing and mapping, can be saved as sessions and restored.

  • Awesome! So will you keep us updated when it's submitted @j_liljedahl?

  • Web page updated with app preview video!
    http://kymatica.com/aum

    I'm very happy to hear you're all as excited as I am for this release :)

    The release is planned for the coming week!

  • hey Jonatan, does it have sidechain comp?

  • @j_liljedahl said:
    Web page updated with app preview video!
    http://kymatica.com/aum

    I'm very happy to hear you're all as excited as I am for this release :)

    The release is planned for the coming week!

    Great news :) any idea of pricing yet?

  • Checked the preview video and keep my money for this app. Just WOW

  • Woah............ Saving my moo-lah too.

  • @kobamoto said:
    hey Jonatan, does it have sidechain comp?

    Most likely it will since AUFX-Push supports it...

  • Even if we don't know the price yet I'd say even at $19.95 it will be worth it for the work-flow improvements alone.

  • wow, that some serious utilitarian app right there.

  • @Samu said:
    Even if we don't know the price yet I'd say even at $19.95 it will be worth it for the work-flow improvements alone.

    I dunno. Looks cool, but that seems a little pricey to me. Hope he stays at the reasonable level like he has with all his other apps, instead of going all greedy like some devs seem to. Will wait and see, but I'm saving a few pesos until next week to find out, and hopefully (finally) get in on low intro pricing before they jack it back up a day later ;)

  • edited February 2016

    Short video preview.

  • edited February 2016

    @j_liljedahl said:
    It does! All state of Audio Unit extensions, and the mixer itself of course, and MIDI routing and mapping, can be saved as sessions and restored.

    OK, now my interest is growing!

    It looks like tracks can be set for varying number of measures if I saw the clock options right in the video? Or is there one master setting? (Sorry, was moving by very quickly in the video!)

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