Kymatica AUM on the... wait, it's live!

Samu

@j_liljedahl said:

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To make perfect loops it's enough if the recording stops at next quantum since the start is synced.
So in practice to make a 'perfect' loop, press record just before the quantum and during the recording press 'stop' and the recording will automatically stop the next quantum. If that's the way it works it's more than enough.

Exactly, that's what's on my TODO, and is how it works in SECTOR (where the quantum is fixed to the length of the SEQ though). In the first version of AUM, only the start of the recording is synchronized like that.

Since the BPM of the recording is known and the start is synced It's just a couple of clicks in AudioShare to trim away the tail

I guess the 'super lazy individuals'(like me hehe) would love to have the some 'meta-data'(time & date, channel/track-app, bpm etc.) embedded in the filename for the files recorded with AUM and maybe a 'session folder' to keep all the files neatly organised

Hope AUM gets approved soon.

pierre

This app seems to be not a full DAW, but an real alternative to it ( which is actually more interesting )

I really like not having to tweak things for ever and just let the inspiration flow

I'm getting more and more exited

ecamburn

These features (loop recording then insertion into channel for loop playback) would make this an amazing creative loop creation and sketch tool for ios. I feel like I need to draw a signal flow chart to get my ahead around all the possibilities. The combination of Modstep, AUM, Gadget and a bunch of ios synths and effects all synced via Link is making my head spin.

JohnnyGoodyear

@ecamburn said:
These features (loop recording then insertion into channel for loop playback) would make this an amazing creative loop creation and sketch tool for ios. I feel like I need to draw a signal flow chart to get my ahead around all the possibilities. The combination of Modstep, AUM, Gadget and a bunch of ios synths and effects all synced via Link is making my head spin.

Please do make that chart

Samu

@pierre said:
This app seems to be not a full DAW, but an real alternative to it ( which is actually more interesting )

I really like not having to tweak things for ever and just let the inspiration flow

I'm getting more and more exited

Same here, I'll wait for the links so I can part with what ever the price is.
Apart from being a great mixer for apps and effects it will be a super duper 'performance recorder deluxe' too

I doubt I can get SidTracker64 dudes to implement 'Link' (Wish Me luck though).
The focus for now seems to be on iPad Pro support

Carnbot

I think I'd better clear a space on my home screen, going to be using this a lot.
Multi device synced recording is something I'm looking forward to as well. Also I see from a screenshot you can write notes too for your session/preset...so useful!

lukesleepwalker

@Carnbot said:

Also I see from a screenshot you can write notes too for your session/preset...so useful!

I agree. Many might dismiss this as a small, relatively meaningless feature, but I frequently look at stuff I've saved in apps and cannot remember WHY I did something. This little feature tells me the dev pays attention to real workflow problems.

rickwaugh

One of the things I find most interesting about this, is the modularity. It assumes that a bunch of other things are going to be handled by different apps. I'm still not sure how you would do the editing of audio, as you can edit/splice/dice regions in Auria.

It's nice being in one app like Auria, and have everything there. I probably won't pick this up any time soon, unless the intro price is really cheap, (and I do believe that Devs should charge good $$$ for apps, but I don't really have a need for this.) But I like the thought of being insulated somewhat from changes in the iOS biz, where apps get abandoned. If it's just a chunk of the chain, and there are alternatives, that's a great thing.

Samu

I see AUM as a lean 'Live Mixer' with the option to record each track as a separate file for usage elsewhere.

Also avoiding to have a resourcehoging DAW running in the background is a huge plus and allows most likely more soundproducing apps to run at the same time before hitting the ram/cpu roof. Not to mention it will be a great iaa, au and ab 'host' and also be a 'bridge' to feed iaa-only apps to ab.

rickwaugh

@samu, what would you use for audio editing? And what about final mix/production?

Samu

@rickwaugh said:
@samu, what would you use for audio editing? And what about final mix/production?

I'm mostly using Cubasis for that and it's easy to transfer files from AudioShare to Cubasis since AUM and AudioShare share the storage-space it will be a pretty nice workflow.

JohnnyGoodyear

@lukesleepwalker said:

@Carnbot said:

Also I see from a screenshot you can write notes too for your session/preset...so useful!

I agree. Many might dismiss this as a small, relatively meaningless feature, but I frequently look at stuff I've saved in apps and cannot remember WHY I did something. This little feature tells me the dev pays attention to real workflow problems.

Bing bing bing bing...

mulletsaison

I see this, or perhaps it's more of a hope, replacing the mixer in Auria, by and large, and then Auria becomes my 'tape machine' for an analog analogue. I expect to still do waveform editing in Auria. Can't wait to find out!

Will

@Samu said:
and also be a 'bridge' to feed iaa-only apps to ab.

Good one! Welcome back, Voice Synth.

Will

@rickwaugh said:
One of the things I find most interesting about this, is the modularity. It assumes that a bunch of other things are going to be handled by different apps.

Indeed. It looks to be the zsh of iOS audio.

Audiojunkie

@j_liljedahl said:

@lukesleepwalker said:

@j_liljedahl said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Samu said:
I'm just wondering if AUM will be able to 'remote-trigger' recording on other devices running AUM?

This would be totally awesome and make it easy to multi-track multiple iOS devices without having to worry if the recordings are in sync or not

That would be cool

There's no remote-triggers like that. But there's Ableton Link support, and when recording it starts at the next sync quantum (default 1 bar, configurable). So, fire up two devices running AUM, synced with Link, and tap REC on both devices before the current sync quantum ends - voila! both will start recording at exactly the same time.

Could you set up a MIDI cc over network to record simultaneously?

Sure, you could do that. But since it waits for the Ableton Link sync quantum you don't even need that, just tap record on one and then another, as long as it's before the current sync quantum ends (one bar is the default, but you could set it to 100 bars and have a coffee before it starts recording )

Where can mere mortals like myself find more documentation about things like "Ableton's link sync quantum"? This sound very useful to understand and have a full grasp on...Did Ableton release any documentation about how Link works?

kobamoto

@Michael_R_Grant said:

@skiphunt said:
At the time, I was playing with DAW Multitrack. It was and still is a very good app that the developer keeps improving.

Time for me to mention what I've been saying since DECEMBER 2012 (Godddddddddd): No count-in, in a DAW? Really?

hey there are some 'music' apps that have tracks that actually don't have panning!!!

kobamoto

@j_liljedahl said:

@ecamburn said:

@pierre said:

It seems that there is trigger loop quantize, if you pause fast enough in the presentation video you'll notice a quantize setting to trigger the audioshare loops "a la" ableton live (number of bar...)

This would be awesome if I understand what you're saying. If audioshare could capture a loop of fixed length while recording a synth that is in sync via link, that would be tres cool.

Currently it synchronizes the start of a recording. Adding synchronized end of recording (as in SECTOR) is on my TODO, and will allow sampling precise loops (that can then be loaded up in a new channel using the built in fileplayer, etc..)

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees......... thank you.

JeffChasteen

My wife knows that her days are numbered with the impending release of AUM!
In all seriousness, I am really looking forward to it.

j_liljedahl

@Samu said:
I see AUM as a lean 'Live Mixer' with the option to record each track as a separate file for usage elsewhere.

Also avoiding to have a resourcehoging DAW running in the background is a huge plus and allows most likely more soundproducing apps to run at the same time before hitting the ram/cpu roof.

Exactly this was the reason I wanted to make this app.

Not to mention it will be a great iaa, au and ab 'host' and also be a 'bridge' to feed iaa-only apps to ab.

And it can bridge AudioUnit extension to/from AB as well.

j_liljedahl

@Audiojunkie said:

@j_liljedahl said:

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Sure, you could do that. But since it waits for the Ableton Link sync quantum you don't even need that, just tap record on one and then another, as long as it's before the current sync quantum ends (one bar is the default, but you could set it to 100 bars and have a coffee before it starts recording )

Where can mere mortals like myself find more documentation about things like "Ableton's link sync quantum"? This sound very useful to understand and have a full grasp on...Did Ableton release any documentation about how Link works?

Here's everything, but for a developer perspective: http://ableton.github.io/linkkit
However I think also a non-developer can pick up the basic concepts by reading that, at least the introduction.

Regarding sync quantum, in short it's the unit of quantization used to align two Link-enabled apps.
It's often one bar. In an app that plays a loop of some sort (soundfile or pattern) it makes sense to use the loop length as sync quantum. In most apps, there's no user setting for this since there already is a natural decision for it (as in a looping pattern). In AUM, there's a user setting for it since it can host many apps that are looping in different lengths, etc.

Jocphone

@j_liljedahl when a sample/track is recorded will it be available directly so that we could "open in" to other apps, or will we do that from AudioShare? as I believe you said they share storage space?

I'm thinking, specifically, that this could run alongside SunVox then transfer tracks into a sampler in SunVox when recorded. Not sure how useful that is yet but I suspect, if the workflow is good, that it will motivate me to use other synths etc with SunVox.

j_liljedahl

@Jocphone said:
@j_liljedahl when a sample/track is recorded will it be available directly so that we could "open in" to other apps, or will we do that from AudioShare? as I believe you said they share storage space?

I'm thinking, specifically, that this could run alongside SunVox then transfer tracks into a sampler in SunVox when recorded. Not sure how useful that is yet but I suspect, if the workflow is good, that it will motivate me to use other synths etc with SunVox.

Yes, you can long-press a recording to show a menu with these options:

• show in audioshare
• rename
• add file player
• open in..
• iCloud Drive
• ...and all other document picker extensions, like Drive and Dropbox etc..

Jocphone

@j_liljedahl said:

@Jocphone said:
@j_liljedahl when a sample/track is recorded will it be available directly so that we could "open in" to other apps, or will we do that from AudioShare? as I believe you said they share storage space?

I'm thinking, specifically, that this could run alongside SunVox then transfer tracks into a sampler in SunVox when recorded. Not sure how useful that is yet but I suspect, if the workflow is good, that it will motivate me to use other synths etc with SunVox.

Yes, you can long-press a recording to show a menu with these options:

• show in audioshare
• rename
• add file player
• open in..
• iCloud Drive
• ...and all other document picker extensions, like Drive and Dropbox etc..

Excellent, really looking forward to this. AudioShare is at the core of everything I do audiowise, so I have high expectations/excitement for AUM.

Goozoon

is it out already?

j_liljedahl

@Goozoon said:
is it out already?

Almost!

AUM will be released 24th of February!

anickt

@j_liljedahl said:

@Goozoon said:
is it out already?

Almost!

AUM will be released 24th of February!

I'm already standing in line...

kobamoto

Feb 24the.... wonderful News!

JL two questions is it possible to do side chain comp with AUM, and is your sample slicer next on the docket?

j_liljedahl

@kobamoto said:
Feb 24the.... wonderful News!

JL two questions is it possible to do side chain comp with AUM, and is your sample slicer next on the docket?

There's no built-in side chain compressor, but you can of course use AUFX:Push in it.

No time yet to make a sample slicer app.. Been very busy with this and have already a lot of stuff queued up!

Bsteff21

The 24th....Thats perfect for me, it's the day before my birthday. I took a few days off from work so that gives me a lot of time to get acquainted with the app. Looks incredible!