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Kymatica AUM on the... wait, it's live!

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  • What queued up do you have, please?

  • @j_liljedahl said:

    @kobamoto said:
    Feb 24the.... wonderful News!

    JL two questions is it possible to do side chain comp with AUM, and is your sample slicer next on the docket?

    There's no built-in side chain compressor, but you can of course use AUFX:Push in it.

    No time yet to make a sample slicer app.. Been very busy with this and have already a lot of stuff queued up!

    k thanks

  • @Goozoon said:
    What queued up do you have, please?

    For example Ableton Link for SECTOR, some AudioShare fixes, and a new secret project for a client ;)

  • is it possible that audio share will get batch processing in the future?

  • Speaking of AS - it would be nice if you could lock the zoom so it wouldn't zoom back out when released.

  • @anickt said:
    Speaking of AS - it would be nice if you could lock the zoom so it wouldn't zoom back out when released.

    @kobamoto said:
    is it possible that audio share will get batch processing in the future?

    There's many many things users would like to see in future AudioShare updates :)
    I'm writing it all down and will consider all requests when time comes to add new features.
    The next AudioShare update will be a quick bugfix release only.

  • @j_liljedahl said:

    @Goozoon said:
    What queued up do you have, please?

    For example Ableton Link for SECTOR, some AudioShare fixes, and a new secret project for a client ;)

    Nice!

  • AUM looks amazing.

    Everybody gets to have a birthday on the 24th! :)

    Good luck with the launch.

  • I can't speak highly enough of the Kymatica apps, every one has been either extremely useful, extremely creative, or both.

    I can't wait till the 24th. A highly versatile live mixer with extensive MIDI control will be a very welcome addition to iOS music.

  • @j_liljedahl said:

    @Goozoon said:
    What queued up do you have, please?

    For example Ableton Link for SECTOR, some AudioShare fixes, and a new secret project for a client ;)

    vinyl to AUFX:Dub ?

  • edited February 2016

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @Goozoon said:
    What queued up do you have, please?

    For example Ableton Link for SECTOR, some AudioShare fixes, and a new secret project for a client ;)

    I remember a drone synth in development ;)
    I was thinking that sector would be a REALLY cool AU ( several instances...)

  • Curious if this should be thought of as a compliment to AB or an alternative to AB?

    I think what this has over AB is the mixer, but is limited to "standard" IAA, where AB on top of IAA does some nice things like preventing zombie background apps. But they seem so similar that it seems redundant to run two host apps at the same time. Thoughts?

  • @skiphunt said:

    @Samu said:
    Even if we don't know the price yet I'd say even at $19.95 it will be worth it for the work-flow improvements alone.

    I dunno. Looks cool, but that seems a little pricey to me. Hope he stays at the reasonable level like he has with all his other apps, instead of going all greedy like some devs seem to. Will wait and see, but I'm saving a few pesos until next week to find out, and hopefully (finally) get in on low intro pricing before they jack it back up a day later ;)

    We really need to move away from the notion of charging 20 bucks for an incredibly sophisticated app being something that constitutes 'greed'.

    Developers demanding a price that works for the long course of an app's life cycle is absolutely in the interest of users. You want updates and additional features - a higher price for a niche app will ensure you'll receive them.

  • I still can't 'see' how I'm going to use this, but then when I first bought AS I wondered 'really?' and we mostly know how that turned out....Link for Sector is very appealing also...

  • Both a compliment and an alternative.

    So I can see this scenerio being useful: AUM in AB output slot, say 3 apps going through via AB
    in AUM they are routed to 3 different channel pairs. These all have AU effects on them. Then say another bus with an AU instrument. Recording direct to Audioshare or through to a desktop DAW.
    AB remote controlling the other apps. Save the preset in Audiobus. Then all AB apps are state saved (if they have that feature) and also AUM is state saved with AU and FX settings and midi routings.

  • @Sebastian said:
    We really need to move away from the notion of charging 20 bucks for an incredibly sophisticated app being something that constitutes 'greed'.

    Developers demanding a price that works for the long course of an app's life cycle is absolutely in the interest of users. You want updates and additional features - a higher price for a niche app will ensure you'll receive them.

    +1 - It seems that most threads these days are being hijaaked by this argument, and to be frank it is getting boring. Dev's charge what they need to charge to give us great dependable apps, end of.

  • @gburks said:
    Curious if this should be thought of as a compliment to AB or an alternative to AB?

    I think what this has over AB is the mixer, but is limited to "standard" IAA, where AB on top of IAA does some nice things like preventing zombie background apps. But they seem so similar that it seems redundant to run two host apps at the same time. Thoughts?

    Personally I don't look at it like that. Audiobus is an easy to use platform and eco-system for connecting apps together, with its own SDK providing state saving and remote triggers. AUM is a whole different app, for a more narrow target audience. Even though the core essence also is connecting apps (and multichannel audio interfaces, and mix busses, and Audio Unit extensions) it's also a mixer, recorder, has a bunch of built-in signal processing, host with master transport clock, MIDI control, etc. And of course it integrates well with Audiobus!

  • I can't see AUM replacing Audiobus. I do see it potentially replacing MiMix.

  • @lukesleepwalker said:
    I can't see AUM replacing Audiobus. I do see it potentially replacing MiMix.

    I use MiMix and AB together today, mainly as a way to route Loopy's metronome to a different output of my audio interface. You can hear the audible latency kick in the moment I add it. iPad Pro. I hope AUM can avoid the extra latency.

  • @Nathan said:
    With the greatest respect, some of the post's I've read informed me that a particular product did not work properly, so it can't be all that great. So many developers get things right, and show willing, a few do not.

    You're polluting this discussion. If you have a specific issue with this "other app" bring it up in a separate thread, presuming you actually have first-hand experience of these issues. In the meantime let's just keep this discussion focused where it belongs, on Kymatica's forthcoming AUM.

  • @Nathan said:

    @richardyot said:
    Aren't you the one hurling insults by calling people greedy?

    Not at all. An insult would be calling someone an ugly pin-head. All I'm doing is disagreeing with a business practice.

    In contrast there are literally hundreds of apps which I've been very happy to buy, and support via reviews.

    Why use the ugly pin-head example? Didn't you say him calling you ignorant was hurling insults? Ignorant is an insult but greedy is not? Not at all? Are you sure about that? And what's with all the virtue signalling? We get it. You buy many apps, you write reviews. So what? Most of us do.

  • Yeah, I would really appreciate if you could move the discussions on app pricing/economy and complaints about other apps (and complaints about complainers, etc) to another thread!

  • I'm hoping I can use AUM with AB to create guitar effects chains ala the four cable method.

  • @gburks said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    I can't see AUM replacing Audiobus. I do see it potentially replacing MiMix.

    I use MiMix and AB together today, mainly as a way to route Loopy's metronome to a different output of my audio interface. You can hear the audible latency kick in the moment I add it. iPad Pro. I hope AUM can avoid the extra latency.

    I think AUM would have to replace Audiobus to avoid this latency. The only way I can see AUM having less latency is by avoiding the extra app buffer that is introduced when having the two apps combined (AB and MiMiX).

    I have a tendency of playing a bit behind the beat. When all apps are running through AB, MiMiX, loopy, etc. my tracks (while still technically in sync) start to sound off time the more layers I lay down because the extra buffer latency (I assume this is what is causing it) creates a behind the beat snowball effect. I'm really hoping that having all the hosting/syncing/mixing in a single app fixes this.

  • 24th. Cool beans.

  • Question for App Store specialists: regarding the release date, when we say 24th, does it means tomorrow 23th at midnight ?

  • @pierre said:
    Question for App Store specialists: regarding the release date, when we say 24th, does it means tomorrow 23th at midnight ?

    It's up to the dev. Apple gives their approval, but the dev gets to push the button when they want.

  • @Sebastian said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @Samu said:
    Even if we don't know the price yet I'd say even at $19.95 it will be worth it for the work-flow improvements alone.

    I dunno. Looks cool, but that seems a little pricey to me. Hope he stays at the reasonable level like he has with all his other apps, instead of going all greedy like some devs seem to. Will wait and see, but I'm saving a few pesos until next week to find out, and hopefully (finally) get in on low intro pricing before they jack it back up a day later ;)

    We really need to move away from the notion of charging 20 bucks for an incredibly sophisticated app being something that constitutes 'greed'.

    Developers demanding a price that works for the long course of an app's life cycle is absolutely in the interest of users. You want updates and additional features - a higher price for a niche app will ensure you'll receive them.

    With all due respect... some of us have been buying apps for as long as you could buy apps. I've personally been buying video, audio, and photography apps since the beginning. I've paid top dollar for apps that get abandoned, break with an iOS update and the dev doesn't bother to fix... $$$ down the drain. So some of us are apprehensive about investing larger amounts on apps that may or may not give us any use beyond a couple months.

    I'm sure you've purchased many apps in your time and can also relate to this. But I do agree that a race to the bottom doesn't benefit devs or users in the long run. I've seen this mentality completely destroy the stock photography industry that used to be profitable for photographer content creators.

    That being said... there are some devs out there (like yourself and j_liljedahl) who've managed to offer a high level of functionality, regular maintenance, and bonus features, etc. without breaking the bank and I'm guessing remaining reasonably profitable. There's obviously a good balance that can be achieved.

  • @j_liljedahl said:

    @gburks said:
    Curious if this should be thought of as a compliment to AB or an alternative to AB?

    I think what this has over AB is the mixer, but is limited to "standard" IAA, where AB on top of IAA does some nice things like preventing zombie background apps. But they seem so similar that it seems redundant to run two host apps at the same time. Thoughts?

    Personally I don't look at it like that. Audiobus is an easy to use platform and eco-system for connecting apps together, with its own SDK providing state saving and remote triggers. AUM is a whole different app, for a more narrow target audience. Even though the core essence also is connecting apps (and multichannel audio interfaces, and mix busses, and Audio Unit extensions) it's also a mixer, recorder, has a bunch of built-in signal processing, host with master transport clock, MIDI control, etc. And of course it integrates well with Audiobus!

    So... does AUM kind of make AudioShare unnecessary since it's got it's own builtin recorder? Does AUM need AudioShare or is it completely standalone? I think you said recordings get stored to the AudioShare library correct? What if the user doesn't have AudioShare (I do, but I'm curious how AUM and AudioShare work together)

  • edited February 2016

    [edited] To those interested in discussing Auria's pricing: this is a valid discussion! I hope you feel free to express, discuss and be heard here on the forum.

    Now in due respect of the community PLEASE start a new thread or private conversation.

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