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So you think i have to like everthing because you like it and since i do not i´m an idiot.
Yes, Sir! If you say that it must be true!
I don´t like eating vegetables..... so i must hate all people who like it?!? You calling me IDIOT you idiot. Fine!
Let´s go on...
No need, you're pissing in the wind now. Your comparisons are laughable and nonsensical. I think we're done.
Feel the same about you.... so everything is fine!
He also said that he did not like The Beatles, yet that point is not discussed. I don't like RAP either. I didn't like RAP when I was younger. Nothing to do with age or culture. I just do not like RAP music because it tends to have people rapping on it, which I do not find fun to listen to. Although I do sometime put RAP vocals through fx to create other sound.
In an attempt to make this into something better, I have a monthly jam at my house, and most are in their 40s or 50s, but several times our kids have joined in. It turns out that the music always takes a different direction when the kids get involved, and it's always a nice change. It's also very different from our kids playing without us. For all our biases, it's fun and enlightening when you mix it up.
First Mods vs Rockers, now Millennials vs Boomers, what's a poor Gen-X/Y-er to do? Have a nice cool glass of lager I think.....
No, sorry, the industry does and always has attempted to program people, specifically through native advertising in media, to reinforce or make them believe what they heard was the greatest thing which ever happened in history, which they just happen to sell.
So, my point is to the youth for when specific over 50 types shit on you, it is because they are hardwired in their programming, and you have a right to discount it because it isn't unique or autonomous in the first place.
In other words, I'm taking aim directly at those who spew shit at anyone who likes something more recently produced than 50 years ago.
Its a death cult, ultimately, for those who can't escape the programming, and quite sad at that.
Feel free to delve deeper in what you think is the real deeper issue(s)? I would be more than happy to read it (however long the post) and hear your opinion on it.
From an artistic and musical stand point where is the validity of the deeper issues.
Everything cooler than hip[1] seems to be a pastiche of music that was really big when I was a little kid. I still cringe sometimes when I hear those old 80s synths and drum machines (because I have been programmed, as the OP claims, by too many years of Sisters of Mercy, The Mission, the Cure, Julian Cope et la in my early 20s) -- but it still doesn't stop me from enjoying modern pop music and the productions.
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3328657/gunship-release-one-coolest-music-videos-ever/
btw - the scenario is not me. I have a whiles to go until I reach that age.
Yep that's the point right there.
Well, my writing is bad (since i still have a bit trouble with english). I should have better said i hate "to hear" them. Of course i don´t hate them because they havn´t hurt me....maybe just my ears (yes i know i know).
But that´s the problem with the net, especially across different countries, likes, dislikes etc.
So i apologize if i hurt someone with this.
Maybe those forums should really stay strictly technical.
+1000000
I did that with some music I wrote to collaborate with Andy. I then listened the next day and threw it away! Lol
Working on something new now
What do you mean “as if”?
What's with all the over 50 hate? I'm sensing some serious daddy issues here.
Po intless trolling.
haha, loving the bullshit ageism.
Can't wait till you're a bit older and some nob pulls out the same old tired crap on you.
Oh to see the look on your face.
lol
@AQ808 said:
Erm, Pot - Kettle - Black methinks
I'm not going to get into a hair splitting exercise, this thread has deteriorated enough as is.
Man, reading this thread started out so much fun (for me), and I kinda felt with the OP. ( Maybe just because I did have the honour of meeting such a lot of egotistical assholes through the last years, and his words reminded me of the experience... . But now it went really off, gentle(wo)men. I think, the thing is, there are also fine lines between having an opininion, expressing it, and expecting everybody else to have that same opinion, and it seems, OP feels fed up with this, but in the end does just the same to others, who don't "oblige". Well, just my two centimes, no need to crush me (or anyone, really) please.
Cheers and cheese, t
Music is amazing and there's more scope for development in any one given area than could possibly be explored in one lifetime, let alone when you start combining these aspects together.
There's no time for moping.. go make music!!!
Which bit ? lol
I think it's the bit where Fozzie Bear beat Statler and Waldorf at heckling with the help of Brucy
Im 29. My closest friends do not listen to anything except classic rock and pop of the 60's through the 80's. They collect old vinyl records and every discussion of music somehow comes back around to yet another dissection of the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Queen, etc and their influence on music. Its just rampant nostalgia with a certain twinge of musical elitism. I wouldn't even dare recommending them a newer act. I dunno what it is, I guess people just like what they like. I do not understand however the unwillingness to explore new territory or to appreciate other stuff for what it is rather than compare it to the same decades old music that they've been listening to for....decades. I suppose I'm thankful that I don't have that same attitude.
Is this about the best musician under 40 thread? That discussion on that thread doesn't seem typical of this forum. Seems like most folks here do a pretty good job of keeping agendas in check. If the main complaint is "arguments about what kind of music is better are BS" then I'm right there with you. But is there really a lot of disagreement about this or is this just a red herring?
Me thinks he was making a funny...I can definitely say no ones listening to my stuff (not on purpose anyway...)
Most people will relate to music thats around when they are young . I dont think it matters if they're 15 or 55 , the music connects them to their youth . Saying that though most of my older friends listen to anything from the Beach Boys to Squarepusher lol
I'm not really out to crush anyone other than those who go out of their way to crap on others for the music they like if they don't recognize that music as being "inferior" to their 50 year old standards.
If you happen to be over 50 (or any age) and aren't one of those people, I obviously wasn't talking about you.
But, I feel a need to make a strong case against those people.
The ageism bit was just too much of a typical defense mechanism for me to let slide.
That said, as with everything, take the ideas you like and ignore the ones you don't, and rewrite it in a way that works better for you and your own friends in your own way.
Maybe you'll have a way of putting the concepts you liked in a way that wouldn't be as offensive as mine is to you, which would be cool.
Coming from some other guitar forums, there is a metric shitload of boomer angst over the fact that they can't be popular today trying to make music in "the style" of the music from 50 years ago.
They're successful lawyers, doctors, businessmen, and are super pissed that now that they've bought a $10,000 vintage guitar and $5,000 boutique amp with $3,000 collector edition pedals, they can't find an audience who wants to listen to their blues licks in the style of the Rolling Stones, the Beatles, or Stevie Ray Vaughn, and thus can't successfully achieve their ultimate wish fulfillment of being a famous rockstar in the late 60s/early 70s.
And thus, the reason they can't is the youth who won't respect "the greatest music ever created in the history of the earth". So, I've consistently seen these douche-bags train their ire on anyone who won't worship the idols they intend to use to attempt to achieve their wish fulfillment. They're really conniving bastards.
So, yeah, I've been away from this forum for a while, and dropped in the other day and checked out that thread, and it was filled with the aroma of that BS.
And, my theory is a lot of those types have given up "the dream" and have moved on to iOS music making as the last resort for claiming to have some type of involvement in music. And it isn't really a theory, I've seen those people claim to go that way on that guitar forum, and their attitudes come with them.
But, also, with copyright laws the way they are, and hedge fund/venture capitalists owning more and more catalogs, it is in their interest to brainwash every generation to believe the bullshit that this 50 year old music is the only relevant music in the history of the world, and make efforts to control the market and keep new competitors out by artificially keeping demand for ancient shit so damn high through the manipulative marketing for this cult of the old.
These two things are coming together in a way that is nothing but destructive, and I hope the youth can see it for what it is.
So its ok for you to call them names and trash the music they like , but theyre not allowed to have an opinion on the 'new' music you like
) yeah ?