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Rapping deconstructed

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  • @neinneinnein said:
    The video is too positive about Rap, Rap tends to be horrible, both regarding the text and the "music".

    Just wrong on like a million levels. Sounds like the same thing folks said about the Beatles. Music is beautiful in all of its forms, and modern rap is probably one of the most rapidly evolving forms of it.

  • Folk music comes in all forms.

  • @kobamoto said:
    rap is very interesting, it's the only genre where people blame the genre for their own personal choice of what groups they choose to listen to.... true story.

    Yes, exactly. Oh wait, though, there is country music. Oh and also punk. Oh and also EDM. Oh and...wait...this is completely incorrect.

  • @lala said:

    @syrupcore said:

    Very sad to see such dismissive posts here about a massive genre of music with almost 40 years under its belt.

    It's a very American thing and not as popular as Americans like to believe...
    Europe danced to techno in the 90s not to hip hop ...

    Nobody ever accused Europe of being on the bleeding edge of awareness when it comes to music.

  • edited May 2016

    it's cool, poetry isn't for everyone. I can't get upset with someone on the other side of town because they can't hear me when I speak.

  • edited May 2016

    @boone51 said:

    @lala said:

    @syrupcore said:

    Very sad to see such dismissive posts here about a massive genre of music with almost 40 years under its belt.

    It's a very American thing and not as popular as Americans like to believe...
    Europe danced to techno in the 90s not to hip hop ...

    Nobody ever accused Europe of being on the bleeding edge of awareness when it comes to music.

    I say sir, the very idea, Shocking.

  • edited May 2016

    Well you know as us Europeans say,
    America plays both kinds of music, country and western, (r&b & hip hop) :unamused:

  • @boone51 said:

    @kobamoto said:
    rap is very interesting, it's the only genre where people blame the genre for their own personal choice of what groups they choose to listen to.... true story.

    Yes, exactly. Oh wait, though, there is country music. Oh and also punk. Oh and also EDM. Oh and...wait...this is completely incorrect.

    not in this thread

  • I think it's because rap music has so much panning in it.

  • edited May 2016

    Nobody ever accused Europe of being on the bleeding edge of awareness when it comes to music.

    Said the redneck and played a little doodle on his banjo after he was fast talking trash over a stolen beat. ^^

    C'mon it's not the 2nd coming of Jesus and most of the time not really great ...scnr
    (And I Am open minded about genres I listen too, guess what it's more than two, lol)

  • @kobamoto said:
    it's cool, poetry isn't for everyone. I can't get upset with someone on the other side of town because they can't hear me when I speak.

    +1

  • edited May 2016

    No, it's funny because he's a fifty something white guy who sounds very much like the guys he's doing impressions of except for Jay Z... I guess you'd have to know what Mystikal and LL Cool J sound like for it to be funny.

  • @lala said:

    Nobody ever accused Europe of being on the bleeding edge of awareness when it comes to music.

    Said the redneck and played a little doodle on his banjo after he was fast talking trash over a stolen beat. ^^

    C'mon it's not the 2nd coming of Jesus and most of the time not really great ...scnr
    (And I Am open minded about genres I listen too, guess what it's more than two, lol)

    @lala look, I get that you dont like rap. But you cheat yourself when you dismiss a genre of music. And you diminish yourself when you are delusional enough to think your personal preference is above that genre.

    And when you start throwing out insults like “redneck” you go completely invisible in the conversation. You’re smart man with many talents. Dont prove me wrong about that.

  • Ooh, rap education plus bonus extra narrowminding angst, goody! No, wait, did the rap genre(s) kill humanity, or was that just some individual humans? I forget.

  • edited May 2016

    It's not that don't like hip hop, I just like the old stuff, the new stuff gives nothing to me. See the videos I posted. Sorry if I stepped on your toes.
    It's like IDM vs EDM, I like the old stuff and the new stuff is bullshit to me. Maybe I am just getting old in a get off my lawn kind of way?

  • Europe gave us King Crimson and Can And Bowie and Gabriel and Eno and.....

    So there's that.

  • edited May 2016

    And as far as the "listen to more than two genres" comment goes, I don't personally prescribe to the notion of genres, and my musical heroes haven't either. And no, I'm not talking about the Rolling Stones ripping off American Blues artists and pretending to be pioneers. I'm talking about the classification of genres based on what a record label wants to file an album under. My favorite artists have consistently rejected that classification.

  • Well, I enjoyed that video quite a bit. Plus open mike eagle is a friend of a friend and he makes amazing rap music as well.

  • edited May 2016

    I'll give some insight into my musical tastes. Here are the top five artists I can think of that I currently hold in very high regard.

    Beck
    Jack White
    Outkast
    Junior Kimbrough
    Radiohead

    Now...classify me.

  • Boone51--At NO TIME did the Rolling Stones "Pretend to be pioneers".. As to "ripping off blues artist", they gave full credit and royalties to the original artists.

  • @lala said:
    It's not that don't like hip hop, I just like the old stuff, the new stuff gives nothing to me. See the videos I posted. Sorry if I stepped on your toes.
    It's like IDM vs EDM, I like the old stuff and the new stuff is bullshit to me. Maybe I am just getting old in a get off my lawn kind of way?

    Ha! Near perfect comment to me. Totally agree. But I blame the fact that I'm not in my twenties anymore for not recognizing new emerging artists.

  • edited May 2016

    @boone51 said:
    I'll give some insight into my musical tastes. Here are the top five artists I can think of that I currently hold in very high regard.

    Beck
    Jack White
    Outkast
    Junior Kimbrough
    Radiohead

    Now...classify me.

    Beck and radiohead is "alternative" , don't know the others
    Beck is great, I have all his albums and all the old radiohead stuff too.

    I got a funny feeling they 've got plastic in the afterlife ^^

  • @Telstar5 said:
    Boone51--At NO TIME did the Rolling Stones "Pretend to be pioneers".. As to "ripping off blues artist", they gave full credit and royalties to the original artists.

    After lawyers...

  • @Icepulse said:
    Europe gave us King Crimson and Can And Bowie and Gabriel and Eno and.....

    So there's that.

    Please don't think I was suggesting that Europe hasn't given the world many musical miracles. Absolutely they have. Slow Hand is a straight up God to me.

  • @lala said:

    @boone51 said:
    I'll give some insight into my musical tastes. Here are the top five artists I can think of that I currently hold in very high regard.

    Beck
    Jack White
    Outkast
    Junior Kimbrough
    Radiohead

    Now...classify me.

    Beck and radiohead is "alternative" , don't know the others
    Beck is great, I have all his albums and all the old radiohead stuff too.

    I got a funny feeling they 've got plastic in the afterlife ^^

    You don't know who Jack White is? Dude...seriously? The way you make a guitar sound? I don't believe it

  • edited May 2016

    If you like Beck, you like rap. "Loser" was Beck's breakthrough song. He wrote that because he tried to rap like JayZ and failed so badly he called himself a "loser". He raps constantly in his music. Now that is actually a true story.

  • edited May 2016

    Beck always makes these catchy what I call "kindergarten melodies" that don't want to leave your head

    I guess this is what happens if you stretch it into epic

  • @boone51 said:
    If you like Beck, you like rap. "Loser" was Beck's breakthrough song. He wrote that because he tried to rap like JayZ and failed so badly he called himself a "loser". He raps constantly in his music. Now that is actually a true story.

    After Beck decided to become a "serious artist", he fell on his face. Nothing irritates me more than that live "Sound & Vision" cover he did. The beauty of the original was its brevity. It was like a condensed, jewel-like thing in Bowie's oeuvre. Beck turned it into a bombastic, bloated "world music" production. Distended and pompous. After Odalay, I can't stand the guy.

  • @lala said:
    Beck always makes these catchy what I call "kindergarten melodies" that don't want to leave your head

    Right? He's definitely the biggest influence in my own personal little struggle with "less is more". Kills me.

  • @Icepulse said:

    @boone51 said:
    If you like Beck, you like rap. "Loser" was Beck's breakthrough song. He wrote that because he tried to rap like JayZ and failed so badly he called himself a "loser". He raps constantly in his music. Now that is actually a true story.

    After Beck decided to become a "serious artist", he fell on his face. Nothing irritates me more than that live "Sound & Vision" cover he did. The beauty of the original was its brevity. It was like a condensed, jewel-like thing in Bowie's oeuvre. Beck turned it into a bombastic, bloated "world music" production. Distended and pompous. After Odalay, I can't stand the guy.

    I can totally respect your preference on that. But I will say, as a life long fan of the guy, that Bowie cover was both epic, and at the same time, complete shit. It was cool to me, coming from a high school music background, to think about that many musicians performing together in the same room the way they did. But like you said, it was almost like raping the spirit of the original content. Totally the wrong spirit imo. You and I and the Grammys and the record charts can just disagree that he hasn't made any good music recently.

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