Blocs Wave v8.0 // Improved Importing, New Slice Trigger Mode, and Show/Hide Packs

JohnnyGoodyear

@MonzoPro said:
I love Blocs. It's not perfect, but I find it so easy to record into I'm prepared to forgive it's other squiggles.

Bing.

Richtowns

Ive written more App Store reviews for BlocWave than any other app! For the next update Im going to write, this is like christmas and a birthday all rolled into one, with cherries on top. Then Ill buy a random sound pack and mix it with some italian mambo. So much fun I sometimes have to ask myself if it's legal.

AudioGus

@ExAsperis99 said:
Yes, very interested in the workflow with egoist.
So leaving the hardware out of it:
What sound goes into Blocs? What happens there? Where does it end up?

I put Aum in Audiobus and send it to Blocs Wave. Then I put Egoist in Aum which sends to Audiobus. Then I record Egoist into Blocs Wave. I usually set up a bunch of patterns to randomly play slices in Egoist and then do the slicing/happy accident discovery in Blocs. Also, putting Effectrix on top of Egoist in Aum is a nice touch too.

In the end everything from Blocs Wave winds up in a PC daw for more editing.

BiancaNeve

@ElGregoLoco said:

@BiancaNeve said:
Just because you're trying to use a toaster to make roast beef doesn't mean it's not a good toaster.

Just because you troll on forums doesn't mean you're interesting...

Whereas you whining on about a feature that YOU want and calling software a beta because it doesn't have it beguiles and fascinates us all.

ecamburn

@ExAsperis99 Blocs and Egoist are completely different animals to me. Blocs is a loop launcher with some ability to change how loops sound. But basically you're playing back loops. Egoist takes loops and splits them into little bits and then plays the bits as beats with tons of options for sound manipulation . You could use Egoist to simply play back a loop, but that wouldn't be making the best use of the tool IMO.

ExAsperis99

I love the idea of Egoist, but every video I've ever seen simply turns the original soundfile into some glitchfest or randomization. What I want is Samplr with a built-in audio editor and the ability to play back the chopped samples into a DAW. I find that I have a handful of almost apps that aren't quite able to do what I want: iMPC Pro, Samplr, Blocs Wave, BM2. Is Egotist more all-encompassing? It's kind of expensive to gamble on; and it hasn't been updated in a while....

AudioGus

@ExAsperis99 said:
I love the idea of Egoist, but every video I've ever seen simply turns the original soundfile into some glitchfest or randomization. What I want is Samplr with a built-in audio editor and the ability to play back the chopped samples into a DAW. I find that I have a handful of almost apps that aren't quite able to do what I want: iMPC Pro, Samplr, Blocs Wave, BM2. Is Egotist more all-encompassing? It's kind of expensive to gamble on; and it hasn't been updated in a while....

Egoist is my go to app for glitchfest randomization. Sounds like you want more control though, so it is probably not worth it for you.

lovadamusic

@ElGregoLoco said:
What I still don't understand is how other people use Bloc Wave... Most people on this forum seem to use Bloc Waves a lot and have no complain regarding the lack of resynch option, which make me think that I may be trying/dreaming of using it in a way which is not intended at the beginning... But I don't understand what this use is (if it's to record loops on the go, then Loopy HD seems more adapted... if it's to play with loops, then it seems you are limited to factory/iAP loops and the few of your own sample/loops that are correctly synched with Bloc Waves factory/iAPs loops)... That's still a mystery to me :-)

And I don't understand how you want to use it. We probably don't make the same kind of music, and I don't come from a loop-based kind of background. I just do what I can with BW based on what it does. I don't have a lot of expectations or established workflow with this type of app. I work with the loops you can buy for it, and loops I import that have a straight BPM and exact bar length. If it could do something more, I'd like to be able to change key in different sections.

ExAsperis99

@lovadamusic said:

@ElGregoLoco said:
What I still don't understand is how other people use Bloc Wave... Most people on this forum seem to use Bloc Waves a lot and have no complain regarding the lack of resynch option, which make me think that I may be trying/dreaming of using it in a way which is not intended at the beginning... But I don't understand what this use is (if it's to record loops on the go, then Loopy HD seems more adapted... if it's to play with loops, then it seems you are limited to factory/iAP loops and the few of your own sample/loops that are correctly synched with Bloc Waves factory/iAPs loops)... That's still a mystery to me :-)

And I don't understand how you want to use it. We probably don't make the same kind of music, and I don't come from a loop-based kind of background. I just do what I can with BW based on what it does. I don't have a lot of expectations or established workflow with this type of app. I work with the loops you can buy for it, and loops I import that have a straight BPM and exact bar length. If it could do something more, I'd like to be able to change key in different sections.

Imagine if you could change the length of the individual loops in Loopy and slice and rearrange them. And after you're happy with the loops, you can also load them into a complex song pattern.

You can do that in Blocs Wave. I don't use the loop packs at all.

lovadamusic

@ExAsperis99 said:

@lovadamusic said:

@ElGregoLoco said:
What I still don't understand is how other people use Bloc Wave... Most people on this forum seem to use Bloc Waves a lot and have no complain regarding the lack of resynch option, which make me think that I may be trying/dreaming of using it in a way which is not intended at the beginning... But I don't understand what this use is (if it's to record loops on the go, then Loopy HD seems more adapted... if it's to play with loops, then it seems you are limited to factory/iAP loops and the few of your own sample/loops that are correctly synched with Bloc Waves factory/iAPs loops)... That's still a mystery to me :-)

And I don't understand how you want to use it. We probably don't make the same kind of music, and I don't come from a loop-based kind of background. I just do what I can with BW based on what it does. I don't have a lot of expectations or established workflow with this type of app. I work with the loops you can buy for it, and loops I import that have a straight BPM and exact bar length. If it could do something more, I'd like to be able to change key in different sections.

Imagine if you could change the length of the individual loops in Loopy and slice and rearrange them. And after you're happy with the loops, you can also load them into a complex song pattern.

You can do that in Blocs Wave. I don't use the loop packs at all.

Yes, I think that describes what I do. I find the loop packs fun to play with, but they're not required.

[Deleted User]

@ExAsperis99 said:
I love the idea of Egoist, but every video I've ever seen simply turns the original soundfile into some glitchfest or randomization. What I want is Samplr with a built-in audio editor and the ability to play back the chopped samples into a DAW. I find that I have a handful of almost apps that aren't quite able to do what I want: iMPC Pro, Samplr, Blocs Wave, BM2. Is Egotist more all-encompassing? It's kind of expensive to gamble on; and it hasn't been updated in a while....

I like Egoist, but it is a bit of a glitch fest, and it seems everything I do on it sounds very similar - could be lack of knowledge on my part though. I also struggle getting a decent sample length per slice too, it's all a bit short and sweet. Again that could be my fault though. For sample chopping and playing Blocs is the one for me. Egoist does have a nice built in drum and bass synth though, and you can route the bass, for example to another app via midi. Cyclop works really well with Egoist.

This was an Egoist 'thing':

JohnnyGoodyear

@MonzoPro said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
I love the idea of Egoist, but every video I've ever seen simply turns the original soundfile into some glitchfest or randomization. What I want is Samplr with a built-in audio editor and the ability to play back the chopped samples into a DAW. I find that I have a handful of almost apps that aren't quite able to do what I want: iMPC Pro, Samplr, Blocs Wave, BM2. Is Egotist more all-encompassing? It's kind of expensive to gamble on; and it hasn't been updated in a while....

I like Egoist, but it is a bit of a glitch fest, and it seems everything I do on it sounds very similar - could be lack of knowledge on my part though. I also struggle getting a decent sample length per slice too, it's all a bit short and sweet. Again that could be my fault though. For sample chopping and playing Blocs is the one for me. Egoist does have a nice built in drum and bass synth though, and you can route the bass, for example to another app via midi. Cyclop works really well with Egoist.

This was an Egoist 'thing':

Pretty sure this is you at work...

ExAsperis99

@MonzoPro: This is great. It's not something I would make, but I like it a lot. Makes me wonder — and I mean this in the best way — what Butthole Surfers would have sounded like if they had ipads....

As for Blocs sample chopping, the problem is that all the chops are by default the same length. I can't change that, can I?

[Deleted User]

@ExAsperis99 said:
@MonzoPro: This is great. It's not something I would make, but I like it a lot. Makes me wonder — and I mean this in the best way — what Butthole Surfers would have sounded like if they had ipads....

As for Blocs sample chopping, the problem is that all the chops are by default the same length. I can't change that, can I?

No, that's top of my wishlist: being able to change their length as with Samplr.

Thanks - just realised that ones using Electrified, not egoist, this is almost pure Egoist (again, a bit weird though):

[Deleted User]

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@MonzoPro said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
I love the idea of Egoist, but every video I've ever seen simply turns the original soundfile into some glitchfest or randomization. What I want is Samplr with a built-in audio editor and the ability to play back the chopped samples into a DAW. I find that I have a handful of almost apps that aren't quite able to do what I want: iMPC Pro, Samplr, Blocs Wave, BM2. Is Egotist more all-encompassing? It's kind of expensive to gamble on; and it hasn't been updated in a while....

I like Egoist, but it is a bit of a glitch fest, and it seems everything I do on it sounds very similar - could be lack of knowledge on my part though. I also struggle getting a decent sample length per slice too, it's all a bit short and sweet. Again that could be my fault though. For sample chopping and playing Blocs is the one for me. Egoist does have a nice built in drum and bass synth though, and you can route the bass, for example to another app via midi. Cyclop works really well with Egoist.

This was an Egoist 'thing':

Pretty sure this is you at work...

I've got more hair than that, but it's damned close.

lukesleepwalker

@MonzoPro said:
I like Egoist, but it is a bit of a glitch fest, and it seems everything I do on it sounds very similar - could be lack of knowledge on my part though.

This is my exact issue with Egoist. I love playing with it, but when I'm done, it feels like the other five things I did in Egoist. Like you, I'd love to see a "master" show us how to stretch things to get more varied results.

I agree that Samplr's great trick is to be able to drag those sample points around...

aaronpc

I'm digging the new ideas brought up today. The zooming in on long samples is something I hadn't considered, as well as the use of Egoist. Egoist doesn't have to be madness— bend it to your will. Most of the time, the sounds I want aren't on the beat, but scattered all around a sound file. Use Egoist to select only those sounds you want and quantize them to the beat. Now Bloc's fixed sample length isn't so much of a problem anymore.

[Deleted User]

@aaronpc said:
I'm digging the new ideas brought up today. The zooming in on long samples is something I hadn't considered, as well as the use of Egoist. Egoist doesn't have to be madness— bend it to your will. Most of the time, the sounds I want aren't on the beat, but scattered all around a sound file. Use Egoist to select only those sounds you want and quantize them to the beat. Now Bloc's fixed sample length isn't so much of a problem anymore.

I do a similar thing, but with Electrify - that's also really easy to use for selecting specific parts of a sample and triggering them, and you can then save the edited thing for use in Blocs.

ExAsperis99

@MonzoPro said:

@aaronpc said:
I'm digging the new ideas brought up today. The zooming in on long samples is something I hadn't considered, as well as the use of Egoist. Egoist doesn't have to be madness— bend it to your will. Most of the time, the sounds I want aren't on the beat, but scattered all around a sound file. Use Egoist to select only those sounds you want and quantize them to the beat. Now Bloc's fixed sample length isn't so much of a problem anymore.

I do a similar thing, but with Electrify - that's also really easy to use for selecting specific parts of a sample and triggering them, and you can then save the edited thing for use in Blocs.

Electrify seems to have been bounced from the App Store.

[Deleted User]

@ExAsperis99 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@aaronpc said:
I'm digging the new ideas brought up today. The zooming in on long samples is something I hadn't considered, as well as the use of Egoist. Egoist doesn't have to be madness— bend it to your will. Most of the time, the sounds I want aren't on the beat, but scattered all around a sound file. Use Egoist to select only those sounds you want and quantize them to the beat. Now Bloc's fixed sample length isn't so much of a problem anymore.

I do a similar thing, but with Electrify - that's also really easy to use for selecting specific parts of a sample and triggering them, and you can then save the edited thing for use in Blocs.

Electrify seems to have been bounced from the App Store.

Here you go

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/yellofier-electrified/id916258097?mt=8

ElGregoLoco

@BiancaNeve said:

@ElGregoLoco said:

@BiancaNeve said:
Just because you're trying to use a toaster to make roast beef doesn't mean it's not a good toaster.

Just because you troll on forums doesn't mean you're interesting...

Whereas you whining on about a feature that YOU want and calling software a beta because it doesn't have it beguiles and fascinates us all.

I don't want to feed you here... but just FYI, we are numerous people requesting the resynch feature on this forum since BW release (and we've finally be heard, thank you devs). Also, as I already explained, I called it beta for my own use. And as already asked, if you think I'm using this siftware in a way it is not meant to (toaster to make rosbeef), please tell me how it is intended to be used, I'd be very interested to read your explanations...
You arrive in the middle of a discussion, try to attack someone with a poor joke for no reason, and what do you expect then ?

ExAsperis99

@MonzoPro said:

@ExAsperis99 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@aaronpc said:
I'm digging the new ideas brought up today. The zooming in on long samples is something I hadn't considered, as well as the use of Egoist. Egoist doesn't have to be madness— bend it to your will. Most of the time, the sounds I want aren't on the beat, but scattered all around a sound file. Use Egoist to select only those sounds you want and quantize them to the beat. Now Bloc's fixed sample length isn't so much of a problem anymore.

I do a similar thing, but with Electrify - that's also really easy to use for selecting specific parts of a sample and triggering them, and you can then save the edited thing for use in Blocs.

Electrify seems to have been bounced from the App Store.

Here you go

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/yellofier-electrified/id916258097?mt=8

Different app.
This seems to be the Electrify in question.

ElGregoLoco

@lovadamusic said:

@ExAsperis99 said:

@lovadamusic said:

@ElGregoLoco said:
What I still don't understand is how other people use Bloc Wave... Most people on this forum seem to use Bloc Waves a lot and have no complain regarding the lack of resynch option, which make me think that I may be trying/dreaming of using it in a way which is not intended at the beginning... But I don't understand what this use is (if it's to record loops on the go, then Loopy HD seems more adapted... if it's to play with loops, then it seems you are limited to factory/iAP loops and the few of your own sample/loops that are correctly synched with Bloc Waves factory/iAPs loops)... That's still a mystery to me :-)

And I don't understand how you want to use it. We probably don't make the same kind of music, and I don't come from a loop-based kind of background. I just do what I can with BW based on what it does. I don't have a lot of expectations or established workflow with this type of app. I work with the loops you can buy for it, and loops I import that have a straight BPM and exact bar length. If it could do something more, I'd like to be able to change key in different sections.

Imagine if you could change the length of the individual loops in Loopy and slice and rearrange them. And after you're happy with the loops, you can also load them into a complex song pattern.

You can do that in Blocs Wave. I don't use the loop packs at all.

Yes, I think that describes what I do. I find the loop packs fun to play with, but they're not required.

Same here dudes... And that's because I want to expend the number of loops I can use in BW, by also being able to use loops not exacly synched with each others (or simply make crazy desynch effects), that I'd like a slip roll or move start header functionnality... E.g. Loopy HD is a simple looper, way more limited than BW IMO, but it permits to do that from the beginning... And that's why some of us are really happy to know that the devs listened to us about that ;-)
Peace.

[Deleted User]

@ExAsperis99 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@ExAsperis99 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@aaronpc said:
I'm digging the new ideas brought up today. The zooming in on long samples is something I hadn't considered, as well as the use of Egoist. Egoist doesn't have to be madness— bend it to your will. Most of the time, the sounds I want aren't on the beat, but scattered all around a sound file. Use Egoist to select only those sounds you want and quantize them to the beat. Now Bloc's fixed sample length isn't so much of a problem anymore.

I do a similar thing, but with Electrify - that's also really easy to use for selecting specific parts of a sample and triggering them, and you can then save the edited thing for use in Blocs.

Electrify seems to have been bounced from the App Store.

Here you go

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/yellofier-electrified/id916258097?mt=8

Different app.
This seems to be the Electrify in question.

No, the one I use is the one on the App Store, never used the other one...

ElGregoLoco

@MonzoPro said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
I love the idea of Egoist, but every video I've ever seen simply turns the original soundfile into some glitchfest or randomization. What I want is Samplr with a built-in audio editor and the ability to play back the chopped samples into a DAW. I find that I have a handful of almost apps that aren't quite able to do what I want: iMPC Pro, Samplr, Blocs Wave, BM2. Is Egotist more all-encompassing? It's kind of expensive to gamble on; and it hasn't been updated in a while....

I like Egoist, but it is a bit of a glitch fest, and it seems everything I do on it sounds very similar - could be lack of knowledge on my part though. I also struggle getting a decent sample length per slice too, it's all a bit short and sweet. Again that could be my fault though. For sample chopping and playing Blocs is the one for me. Egoist does have a nice built in drum and bass synth though, and you can route the bass, for example to another app via midi. Cyclop works really well with Egoist.

This was an Egoist 'thing':

Very nice man... I liked it a lot while it's not my typical kind of music. Bravo !

ExAsperis99

@MonzoPro said:

@ExAsperis99 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@ExAsperis99 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@aaronpc said:
I'm digging the new ideas brought up today. The zooming in on long samples is something I hadn't considered, as well as the use of Egoist. Egoist doesn't have to be madness— bend it to your will. Most of the time, the sounds I want aren't on the beat, but scattered all around a sound file. Use Egoist to select only those sounds you want and quantize them to the beat. Now Bloc's fixed sample length isn't so much of a problem anymore.

I do a similar thing, but with Electrify - that's also really easy to use for selecting specific parts of a sample and triggering them, and you can then save the edited thing for use in Blocs.

Electrify seems to have been bounced from the App Store.

Here you go

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/yellofier-electrified/id916258097?mt=8

Different app.
This seems to be the Electrify in question.

No, the one I use is the one on the App Store, never used the other one...

Ha. I didn't realize you were the one who said you used it in the first place. I'll check it out.

ElGregoLoco

@ExAsperis99 said:

@ElGregoLoco said:

@ExAsperis99 said:

@ElGregoLoco said:

@BiancaNeve said:
Just because you're trying to use a toaster to make roast beef doesn't mean it's not a good toaster.

Just because you troll on forums doesn't mean you're interesting...

Lighten up, Francis.

Call me Psycho ! ;-)

I want to party with you, cowboy.

Missed that one man, sorry... You and me together man, you and me together... ;-)

mireko_2

@ElGregoLoco said:

@mireko_2 said:
Interesting take, hardly beta software

I started my sentence with 'For me' man... and ended it with 'on my side'... I guess I made it clear that this was my own feeling.
I (would like to) use Bloc Waves to test how samples/loops sound together and to try some slicing before I really chop my samples/loops in BM2 to use them in Korg Gadget... So, having no means to resynch samples make the apps unuseable in most cases... And an app which show great potential but cannot be used because it is missing some major basic functionnalities, is a beta app IMO... that's all.

What I still don't understand is how other people use Bloc Wave... Most people on this forum seem to use Bloc Waves a lot and have no complain regarding the lack of resynch option, which make me think that I may be trying/dreaming of using it in a way which is not intended at the beginning... But I don't understand what this use is (if it's to record loops on the go, then Loopy HD seems more adapted... if it's to play with loops, then it seems you are limited to factory/iAP loops and the few of your own sample/loops that are correctly synched with Bloc Waves factory/iAPs loops)... That's still a mystery to me :-)

I get it was your personal opinion, hence saying you had an interesting take. To me beta software is a buggy pre-release, and blocs is extremely polished imho. I wasn't having a go, I just genuinely found it interesting that even something I consider a real marvel of iOS software, other people view as unuseful beta, we musicians are a hard crowd to please..

I use it in a live take mode, so I use the metronome count in and record a loop for exactly 4, 8, or 16 bars. Then I can chop it with the slice mode. If my timing is off, I just record again. The new offset mode willl be great for isolating loops in longer free recording and I'm looking forward to that

ElGregoLoco

@mireko_2 said
I get it was your personal opinion, hence saying you had an interesting take. To me beta software is a buggy pre-release, and blocs is extremely polished imho. I wasn't having a go, I just genuinely found it interesting that even something I consider a real marvel of iOS software, other people view as unuseful beta, we musicians are a hard crowd to please..

I use it in a live take mode, so I use the metronome count in and record a loop for exactly 4, 8, or 16 bars. Then I can chop it with the slice mode. If my timing is off, I just record again. The new offset mode willl be great for isolating loops in longer free recording and I'm looking forward to that

I may have used the word beta in a bad way. But I'm not a computer expert and English is not my native language... What I meant and tried to clarify in the rest of my post is that BW is currently not usable in most cases on my side although I love the concept of it. And what can be a bit frustrating is that I cannot use it because a simple resynchronize functionality was missing... But it's coming now and having BW on my iPad front-page since initial release I cannot be more happy...

Thx for sharing your way of using it, I understand now that many of you (AudioGus, you, ...) are using the app as a looper, recording your own playing on the go or during live sessions... If this is the intended use of BW then I'm definitely using it incorrectly lol... But anyway with the new resynch functionalities, it will work wonderfully for my use... I guess that making a Rosbeef with a toaster can sometimes lead you to great discoveries lol

Peace

kobamoto

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