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Let's talk about 7 September (new iPhone and...)

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  • AudioGusAudioGus

    So I wonder if this adapter will sound better than the pretty lame ass sounding jack on my mini2? I wonder if I can use it on my mini2? This could be good...

  • SamuSamu

    Someone needs to disect the new adapter and see if it contains a DAC and also measure the output voltage :)

  • HmtxHmtx

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    (And $160 for the airpods? Don't they come with the iP7??)

    This is THE MOST ADVANCED iPhone ever, how dare you question the magical-ness?

    :rage: :frowning: :bawling:

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @Samu said:
    Someone needs to disect the new adapter and see if it contains a DAC and also measure the output voltage :)

    I nominate Samu! Seconded!

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

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  • Redo1Redo1

    my iphone 4s is working great. no complaints.

  • HmtxHmtx

    @AudioGus said:

    So I wonder if this adapter will sound better

    I would be surprised if it isn't just a cheap small DAC. It looks so small. I doubt it will improve sound compared to standard iOS device 3.5mm

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @Hmtx said:
    @AudioGus said:

    So I wonder if this adapter will sound better

    I would be surprised if it isn't just a cheap small DAC. It looks so small. I doubt it will improve sound compared to standard iOS device 3.5mm

    Is there a pic somewhere?

  • SamuSamu

    @AudioGus said:

    @Samu said:
    Someone needs to disect the new adapter and see if it contains a DAC and also measure the output voltage :)

    I nominate Samu! Seconded!

    Will still take some time before they are available here in Sweden :D

    If the 'dongle' also works with the iPad it will be easy to compare the 'quality'...

    The 3.5 jack discussion sparks similar agrevation that happened when aple introduced the first iPhone and stepped away from what was thought as 'core business'.(ie. calling Apple idiots and foolish dumbasses).

    At least I hope we'll see a boom i high quality affordable ad/da devices.

    We also still have no information on the latency of the new W1 chip it might even transfer uncompressed audio.

    Personally I can't stand the 'Beats Sound' with loudness at 200% for zombies of a certain genre of music... Aha Aha Ahyeaaah etc.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @anickt said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    The issue I have, is that the Lightning connector on my current phone is knackered and worn out, and takes me ten minutes of wiggling leads to get it to connect.

    That's just from charger use - so with headphones being plugged in and out the socket will wear out even quicker.

    At least that's probably what they're hoping.

    Have you tried cleaning it? They can get full of dust. I have no issues with my 5S although I have it in a case that covers the port.

    I clean it all the time, it's the cleanest thing in the house. It's physically worn, so the connector is a bit loose in the socket.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @Samu said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Samu said:
    Someone needs to disect the new adapter and see if it contains a DAC and also measure the output voltage :)

    I nominate Samu! Seconded!

    Will still take some time before they are available here in Sweden :D

    If the 'dongle' also works with the iPad it will be easy to compare the 'quality'...

    The 3.5 jack discussion sparks similar agrevation that happened when aple introduced the first iPhone and stepped away from what was thought as 'core business'.(ie. calling Apple idiots and foolish dumbasses).

    At least I hope we'll see a boom i high quality affordable ad/da devices.

    We also still have no information on the latency of the new W1 chip it might even transfer uncompressed audio.

    Personally I can't stand the 'Beats Sound' with loudness at 200% for zombies of a certain genre of music... Aha Aha Ahyeaaah etc.

    Yah I am pretty much married to my Sennheissier monitors, even on the bus etc. Cool thing about this is there will be a boom of development on super small lightning ad/da devices. I really want to Link two ipads and record with my UCA 202 on one and output on the other with the smallest/bestest lightning adapter I can find.

  • supadomsupadom

    @Hmtx said:
    @AudioGus said:

    So I wonder if this adapter will sound better

    I would be surprised if it isn't just a cheap small DAC. It looks so small. I doubt it will improve sound compared to standard iOS device 3.5mm

    But I bet your ass iPhone will recognise if you're trying to use a knockoff hardware

  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck

    Let's talk about charging while using.
    Come on all the yay sayers.
    Thoughts? Solutions? Spagetti ?

  • SamuSamu

    @DeVlaeminck said:
    Let's talk about charging while using.
    Come on all the yay sayers.
    Thoughts? Solutions? Spagetti ?

    CCK with external DAC the same way I do it with my iPad and iPhone today...

  • johnfromberkeleyjohnfromberkeley

    @Hmtx said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    (And $160 for the airpods? Don't they come with the iP7??)

    This is THE MOST ADVANCED iPhone ever, how dare you question the magical-ness?

    :rage: :frowning: :bawling:

    I'd be constantly fishing them out of the urinal after I scratch my ear while taking a leak.

  • nrgbnrgb

    @johnfromberkeley said:
    I'd be constantly fishing them out of the urinal after I scratch my ear while taking a leak.

    That was my first thought!

  • johnfromberkeleyjohnfromberkeley

    @Redo1 said:
    my iphone 4s is working great. no complaints.

    Mine, too, but as an ipod

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    "Apple, however, suggests there are advantages to using its Airpods, which will cost $159 (£119)."

    I can see who benefits most from that advantage.

  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck

    @Samu said:

    @DeVlaeminck said:
    Let's talk about charging while using.
    Come on all the yay sayers.
    Thoughts? Solutions? Spagetti ?

    CCK with external DAC the same way I do it with my iPad and iPhone today...

    Spagetti then. Mobility crippled.

  • Lacm1993Lacm1993

    @DeVlaeminck said:
    Let's talk about charging while using.
    Come on all the yay sayers.
    Thoughts? Solutions? Spagetti ?

    For professional use or for everyday use?.

  • TozBourneTozBourne

    But what about the awesome new stereo speakers? Just use those while your phone is charging and you won't miss a beat! (Just kidding)

  • HmtxHmtx

    @johnfromberkeley said:

    $160 for the airpods

    I'd be constantly fishing them out of the urinal after I scratch my ear while taking a leak.

    Haha. And can I just say it: they are fugly. The little white stick coming out of your ear, ew. It looks weird.
    (But Apple marketing genius will convince us all otherwise, so no worries there)

    And did they have other colors?

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    I wonder if this will affect some hardware that connect to the 3.5mm jack to send app changes to hardware such as some apps and pedals? Will it still work through the adaptor or not?

  • SamuSamu

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    I wonder if this will affect some hardware that connect to the 3.5mm jack to send app changes to hardware such as some apps and pedals? Will it still work through the adaptor or not?

    The 'hardware' that is controlled via 3.5" jack works on same principle as tape-recorders so as long as the app can output audio it will work. This goes for things like Volca Sample..

  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck

    As far as I can see, you need at least a CCK3 (to enable charging) and some kind of USB device to connect your headphones (like a DAC). And a charger.
    In stead of a charger an a pair of phones.
    Or am I missing something ?

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Samu said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    I wonder if this will affect some hardware that connect to the 3.5mm jack to send app changes to hardware such as some apps and pedals? Will it still work through the adaptor or not?

    The 'hardware' that is controlled via 3.5" jack works on same principle as tape-recorders so as long as the app can output audio it will work. This goes for things like Volca Sample..

    So really it's just a matter of updates in the software side?

  • ToMessToMess
    edited September 2016

    Luckily i just bought iphone se a while back, so i dont need to get a new phone soon. I seriously hope that the new iphone without the headphone jack is a complete fail in terms of sales(which i kinda doubt as hc apple fans will buy anything from them and many apple buyers dont know what a headphone jack is and will just use the provided earbuds), so that they realize that the technology isnt there yet for this sort of phone without a headphone jack.. Luckily iphone se will be on the market for few more years(if mine breaks or gets old in few years when its time for a new phone), since i wouldnt want to move back to android..

  • SamuSamu

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @Samu said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    I wonder if this will affect some hardware that connect to the 3.5mm jack to send app changes to hardware such as some apps and pedals? Will it still work through the adaptor or not?

    The 'hardware' that is controlled via 3.5" jack works on same principle as tape-recorders so as long as the app can output audio it will work. This goes for things like Volca Sample..

    So really it's just a matter of updates in the software side?

    I don't even think that is needed since apps send audio using 'Core Audio' and not directly to a specific hardware port.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Samu said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @Samu said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    I wonder if this will affect some hardware that connect to the 3.5mm jack to send app changes to hardware such as some apps and pedals? Will it still work through the adaptor or not?

    The 'hardware' that is controlled via 3.5" jack works on same principle as tape-recorders so as long as the app can output audio it will work. This goes for things like Volca Sample..

    So really it's just a matter of updates in the software side?

    I don't even think that is needed since apps send audio using 'Core Audio' and not directly to a specific hardware port.

    So should be ok there then - cool

  • ArtmuzzArtmuzz
    edited September 2016

    Sheesh! £919 for the iPhone 7 I was wanting to buy! Anyway apart from the disappearance of the headphone jack this looks good. I was glad that the stereo speakers are on each side of the phone in portrait mode because for a moment I thought Apple were going to stick just two speakers at the bottom of the phone where the headphone jack was. The zoom functions on the 7 Plus model has whetted my appetite and the Lightning audio could have better audio quality.

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