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No problemo...
I forgot to mention that time-stretch and pitch correction os non-destructive too.
Most of my requests for updated features are already over this thread and I know you're a good listener
Thanks for all your suggestions and feature requests.
Some we might know (and there are included in the backlog already) others will be added, discussed and evaluated.
While it looks easy from the outside to have particular feature request or fixes included in the app, please consider that some of them come at high costs.
We do our best to find the best compromise to include as much we can do with every update.
Best,
Lars
Once again, big thanks to all of you for the very wam welcome of Cubasis 2 in this forum!
Greatly appreciated by our super small Cubasis team, who worked very hard and spend much of their free time throughout the last months in keeping deadlines and making Cubasis 2 an exceptional release.
Best
Lars
Fully understood!
I know also that Cubasis is all about 'work-flow' and some of the issues mentioned slow things down, especially the iaa/au-x freeze bugs.
To save CPU I usually freeze down Ruismaker/Ruismaker FM, Phonem, Viking and other IAA-apps (since there is no way to use IAA in multiple instances) and when the tracks don't match it becomes an issue...
I know, and I really would love to hear the reasoning behind why there are no separate grids for the arrange view and midi-editor view and why some of the grid-options that are available for quantise got 'forgotten' as grid-options for the midi-editor?
This is definitely something that would improve the workflow.
(Arrange view could have grid set to 'Bars' while midi-editor would have the grid set to say 1/16 or 1/8t).
Please extend a big Thank You to the whole team there...
Thank you too guys, what a great 2.0
Thanks for the excellent and comprehensive update ! It looks to me as the focus of Cubasis, is to make music making accessible and straightforward to many, as opposed to a more 'professional' approach. Saying that it's moving more so in that direction too.
Looking into the future, V2 may be considered fairly early days, in the scheme of things, regarding an app's development / lifespan, but it looks like there's a solid 'core' of functionality there now.
A short list of feature requests, which may have been asked for before, but here you go:
Yes, totally recognize this...I would still say that solid timing is the ultimate priority for a DAW. Music is all about time. Please pull out all the stops and nail this in the next update. If customers can't trust that rendering a MIDI instrument will result in audio that is 100% what they performed or edited it will severely limit the brand of the product and its ability to grow to its potential user base.
Regarding workflow, the process to set up a MIDI channel with a Micrologue preset seems a bit cumbersome in terms of the amount of button presses required and remembering how to get there. The 'instrument' rack seems a bit hidden away from the default Acoustic Piano, tbh, and is hardly intuitive to get to. Is there any scope to smooth this process out, or am I missing an obvious shortcut?
Agree that this could be much better, though I eventually got used to it. Cubasis has good work flow, but there are still a number of areas of opportunity
You nailed it
Freezing tracks using Minisampler or Microsonic is flawless but as mentioned Micrologue suffers the same way as IAA-Instruments and AU-X's do!? So my temporary solutions for now is to create(when needed) Mini-Sampler instruments using samples from the other plug-ins as I seldom use extensive automation on them.
Other times I just add an empty 1 bar midi-event in the beginning of the midi-track I plan to freeze or record and glue them together before freezing, after that trim it manually in 'time mode' for sample-accuracy. That works well most of the time.
When recording IAA-Generators that are fed with midi from Cubasis I add some midi-delay to avoid having the beginning of the recording 'chopped off' (Anyone who's tried recording drums from iOS SoundCanvas driven with midi from Cubasis knows how 'frustrating' it can be when the transient of the first kick-drum is missing from the recording).
I also feel that it's not always Cubasis fault either...
The just released 'Jussi' (AUv3) from Klevgr has an an issue when freezing tracks too...
(The first notes are silent so one needs to add an empty midi-region in the beginning of the track to capture them).
Hello, sorry if off topic I didn't think it was useful to create a new thread for those questions. I might take the chance to get Cubasis now that it's on sales. I use Gadget (but no midi out) and Modstep (clips and scenes oriented) but sometimes I just want to record long midi jams from Chordpolyapp or Soundprism, jams that I can later edit, cut and paste, keep best parts, etc...
Tried Auria and it was great but the absence of record-looping turned me off a little...
I read somewhere, don't remember where that MIDI export in Cubasis is somewhat limited and awkward, is it true?
Are the MIDI IN and OUT options complete?
Is Cubasis convenient for editing and extracting best parts of long live jams?
How are the transport functions, play pause record, from within other apps/audiobus dock?
I'm interested in using it to sketch mostly and then send midi to Ableton.
Thanks for any advice.
+10000
What about Blocs Wave man... It can import folders from Audioshare from the start... But I agree it should be a standard now for all apps in which samples may be used.
Auria not only have folders, but also creates, moves and renames folders, and can delete them, and have subfolders etc. Then again, it's hard to put anything there in the first place. iOS needs a file manager, a Finder. Hope Apple understands it someday.
Agree with this. The Auria file system is pretty basic/simple, but it works and allows me to move projects around, categorize/sort them etc., which becomes increasingly important the more usable an app is. It's precisely because Cubasis 2.0 is now far more likely to get regular project use from me that I feel the need (rather than just the want) for even a simple folder system/option.
I thought that folders were old hat and the modern better way is tags. Or is that another situation where we were lied to by our album covers? Actually, no, tags are far better than folders and folders should die. If I have a big and purple thing, do I look in the purple thing folder or big thing folder. With folders I'll only find it in one of them, whereas tags, I'd find it if I look in either tag.
I'd take either, BUT my tidy-complex prefers folders for this particular purpose.
If you are talking on a project level, Cubasis manages the files on a project level for you, all used media is stored with the project, you can't see it on the file system from the app but it is there, the stuff in media bay (audio and MIDI) can be deleted once you have it in a project.
If you share a project from the media bay to say dropbox, all media files are saved with that project, zipped together and put onto dropbox.
I did this several times before I was confident enough to delete from samples directly in media bay.
Hope this helps a little.
Yeah, Auria also does this, but guess what?, you can actually see inside the project in the file system - where it is shown like a folder - and browse what you want.
Folders are important: I have a few for loops, a few for quality musical reference, a few for MIDI files and so on. Hope Lars implement it soon, it's a push for a more professional workflow.
But what we really need is Finder for iOS. Apple should offer it, at least, in the 'Pro' line of iDevices.
It does in one aspect, but I would like/need to organize my projects into categories. Currently in Auria (and elsewhere) I have folders of:
-0 (songs that have been mixed)
-1 (songs that are close and need mixing/finishing off)
-2 (ideas for specific songs that need development)
-3 (pieces that have SOME redeeming qualities, are themes to explore further etc)
-Instrumental
-Intros or Endings
-Middle 8s
-Beats
-Loops
-Vox
Not a perfect system, but one that allows me -amongst other things- to sit down on any given Friday night and think OK, what to do next... and then jump in....
@AndyPlankton that's a useful bit of info thanks
Ah my favorite DAW. Awesome update. Love it, very slick and smooth. The only thing holding me back now is my limited iPad mini 2 CPU
But in the iPad mini 2 Works cubasis also smooth.
Ah my favorite DAW. Awesome update. Love it, very slick and smooth. The only thing holding me back now is my limited iPad mini 2 CPU
> @Bartlinux said:
Yeah but the timestretching is taxing a bit and so are AU Synths like Viking
I see what you want, I don't have that problem because I don't have space to save anything other than my current work in progress so I keep mine in a folder structure similar to what you describe on Dropbox.
You could always prefix your song names so that at least all of the songs in the same state were together in the list.
I particularly like this as a category description LOL 'pieces that have SOME redeeming qualities'
@AndyPlankton that's a useful bit of info thanks > @o_imseng said:
Freezing and mix downs are your friends
Agree on this but as a 'temporary' solution use a file-manager that can provide the files thru iOS-Document Picker.
(FileBrowser, iFiles 2, AudioShare and Documents 5 come to mind). This makes all the files available to all apps that support standard iOS technologies.
There is a reason why I've been quite 'pushy' about implementing standard iOS features for sharing and managing files.(Imagine if all apps could 'expose' their files by implementing iOS FileProvider. That alone would make those files available to all apps that use iOS-FilePicker for import/export operations). An 'App' would simply be a 'location' from/to where files are imported/exported from/to...
The downside(or a real hurrah moment!) would be that iTunes File-Sharing would have to be dropped for good...
Due to the 'sandbox security thinking' I doubt we'll ever see a 'Finder' on a 'non-jailbroken' iOS.
We might see a 'system service' that provides all 'shared' files from one place (ie. an iOS 'service' that publishes all 'iTunes Shared' documents thru a central iOS-FileProvider 'location').
And you can 'accidentally' press OK to the warning message that it may be in use when you try and delete it and lose it
There are pluses and minuses to each way of doing things.
Tags are more efficient, if you want to change something you merely update the tag, rather than having to move everything to somewhere else, also you can have more than one tag on the same file, to do this with folders you would need multiple copies of that file in each folder.
Also if you cannot find it where you expected to find it, you can always relax your 'tag filter' to find it, rather than having to either open each 'likely' place where it could be or use some sort of search facility that trawls through all the locations while you sit and look at a status bar slowly filling up.
I am currently working on a document management system at work, containing a couple of million documents, these are all stored in a single location with tags and filters and it works amazingly well and quickly.
BTW...Relax your tag filter is the name I will use for whatever noisy mess I make tonight
The renaming is what I am doing at this point. So hashtag 1, hashtag 2 etc etc at the front of every tune's title. Not ideal (for me) but I do like the process as it makes me (try to) critically consider what the hell it is I'm doing while I'm doing it....amazing how often a week or two later the 1s become 3s (not often the other way round
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Having asked twice and been met with stony silence, I conclude that turning off the L & R autosnap is not possible, nor likely to be. A minor thing, but still irritating. I am more baffled by the fact that I can send files to Cubasis from Dropbox, but not import them from within the app. Mr Lars and team, NOBODY likes using bloody iTunes.
It's still an excellent update, especially as a freebie to existing customers. Yet still missing a few subtle tricks, such as different types of fade. Maybe in 2.1?