Cubasis 2 now available / special launch price

Samu

@Nkersov said:
Having asked twice and been met with stony silence, I conclude that turning off the L & R autosnap is not possible, nor likely to be. A minor thing, but still irritating. I am more baffled by the fact that I can send files to Cubasis from Dropbox, but not import them from within the app. Mr Lars and team, NOBODY likes using bloody iTunes.

Set the 'Grid' to OFF and the L&R locators will not 'Auto Snap'.(The minimum resolution is still 1/192nd note).
Select Import -> 'iCloud' and then select 'Drop Box' from the 'Location' menu.

BiancaNeve

@Nkersov said:
Having asked twice and been met with stony silence, I conclude that turning off the L & R autosnap is not possible, nor likely to be. A minor thing, but still irritating. I am more baffled by the fact that I can send files to Cubasis from Dropbox, but not import them from within the app. Mr Lars and team, NOBODY likes using bloody iTunes.

It's still an excellent update, especially as a freebie to existing customers. Yet still missing a few subtle tricks, such as different types of fade. Maybe in 2.1?

Assuming you have the Dropbox app installed all you have to do is

Press import
Select iCloud
Tap location
If you can't see Dropbox then press more and enable it then
Select Dropbox
Find your file
Double tap it

The same process works for
Audioshare
One drive
Ifiles2

It may or may not work for google drive I don't have it.

Samu

@BiancaNeve said:

I think you should be addressing that issue to Dropbox not MrLars and team. You can import directly from iCloud, and one drive and ifiles2

DropBox seems to work fine for me using Import -> iCloud->Location->DropBox...

AndyPlankton

@JohnnyGoodyear

The renaming is what I am doing at this point. So hashtag 1, hashtag 2 etc etc at the front of every tune's title. Not ideal (for me) but I do like the process as it makes me (try to) critically consider what the hell it is I'm doing while I'm doing it....amazing how often a week or two later the 1s become 3s (not often the other way round )

Sometimes things mature....i have on a couple of occasions listened to stuff done a couple of years back and thought 'That ain't as bad as I thought it was', like you say though, not very often.

I have put this down to me maturing as an artist and finding better and more interesting techniques so the newer stuff is of a more advanced artistic standing.
This is of course total horse sh1t.....it is because I done it recently and my ears are tuned into it

LFS

@BiancaNeve said:

@Nkersov said:
Having asked twice and been met with stony silence, I conclude that turning off the L & R autosnap is not possible, nor likely to be. A minor thing, but still irritating. I am more baffled by the fact that I can send files to Cubasis from Dropbox, but not import them from within the app. Mr Lars and team, NOBODY likes using bloody iTunes.

It's still an excellent update, especially as a freebie to existing customers. Yet still missing a few subtle tricks, such as different types of fade. Maybe in 2.1?

I think you should be addressing that issue to Dropbox not MrLars and team. You can import directly from iCloud, and one drive and ifiles2

Dropbox works in both directions.

In the dropbox app tapping the three dots icon top right allows to share selected files via "open with".
Works like a charm to export projects or files from Dropbox to Cubasis.

Hope that helps.

Best,
Lars

AndyPlankton

@Nkersov said:
Mr Lars and team, NOBODY likes using bloody iTunes.

You do not need to use iTunes. Like you said, you can send to Cubasis from Dropbox, or Audioshare.....

Having them as an import option would be a plus I agree but perhaps 'Mr Lars and Team, please added either IOS-FilePicker or Audioshare and Dropbox as import sources' would have more mileage

EDIT: - Thanks peeps, didn't realise you can do this using the iCloud icon

JohnnyGoodyear

@AndyPlankton said:
@JohnnyGoodyear

The renaming is what I am doing at this point. So hashtag 1, hashtag 2 etc etc at the front of every tune's title. Not ideal (for me) but I do like the process as it makes me (try to) critically consider what the hell it is I'm doing while I'm doing it....amazing how often a week or two later the 1s become 3s (not often the other way round )

Sometimes things mature....i have on a couple of occasions listened to stuff done a couple of years back and thought 'That ain't as bad as I thought it was', like you say though, not very often.

I have put this down to me maturing as an artist and finding better and more interesting techniques so the newer stuff is of a more advanced artistic standing.
This is of course total horse sh1t.....it is because I done it recently and my ears are tuned into it

Actually, the worst thing is listening to good stuff from a while before that a ) I didn't rate/realize was good (especially vocals etc) and b ) can't remember how I did it/what I did it with. Like watching grainy Super8 footage of a younger self sprinting over the top of the ground and knowing you never knew that that was the day you were running faster than you ever had or would again. I find this particularly galling with poems...

BiancaNeve

Wow this forum moves quickly. When I wrote the post @LFS quoted I had forgotten that I didn't have the Dropbox app installed on this iPad

But by the time I corrected myself I'd already been quoted twice !

Samu

@BiancaNeve said:
Wow this forum moves quickly. When I wrote the post @LFS quoted I had forgotten that I didn't have the Dropbox app installed on this iPad

But by the time I corrected myself I'd already been quoted twice !

We're all too eager to assist fellow iOS noisemakers

AndyPlankton

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Actually, the worst thing is listening to good stuff from a while before that a ) I didn't rate/realize was good (especially vocals etc) and b ) can't remember how I did it/what I did it with. Like watching grainy Super8 footage of a younger self sprinting over the top of the ground and knowing you never knew that that was the day you were running faster than you ever had or would again. I find this particularly galling with poems...

Yes, yes, yes, this is the main reason I started recording midi tracks as reminders for real guitars just so i could remember what I played. The Rockband 3 Mustang was a godsend for me when it came along, before that i was jamming/recording a guitar track, transposing that to keyboard and then recording midi. now I can jam/record the guitar, then just play the guitar again using the RB3 controller.
Although I am starting to do the transpose to keyboard thing again, just because, like you with your renaming, it makes me think more about what I was doing and why, but it is now much easier having the guitar recorded MIDI first.

theconnactic

I think Cubasis is gearing up as a Songwriting tool, @Nkersov, and there was indeed a huge improvement in this area (better instruments, fixed zooming, time stretch and pitch shift), hence some nice tricks, useful for mixing and arranging, were left out. I think that if you want precise arranging, precise audio editing and precise mixing for finishing your tracks, Auria is (and will be for a while) the way to go.

[Deleted User]

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@AndyPlankton said:
@JohnnyGoodyear

The renaming is what I am doing at this point. So hashtag 1, hashtag 2 etc etc at the front of every tune's title. Not ideal (for me) but I do like the process as it makes me (try to) critically consider what the hell it is I'm doing while I'm doing it....amazing how often a week or two later the 1s become 3s (not often the other way round )

Sometimes things mature....i have on a couple of occasions listened to stuff done a couple of years back and thought 'That ain't as bad as I thought it was', like you say though, not very often.

I have put this down to me maturing as an artist and finding better and more interesting techniques so the newer stuff is of a more advanced artistic standing.
This is of course total horse sh1t.....it is because I done it recently and my ears are tuned into it

Actually, the worst thing is listening to good stuff from a while before that a ) I didn't rate/realize was good (especially vocals etc) and b ) can't remember how I did it/what I did it with. Like watching grainy Super8 footage of a younger self sprinting over the top of the ground and knowing you never knew that that was the day you were running faster than you ever had or would again. I find this particularly galling with poems...

Sometimes I'm glad most the old footage of myself is in landfill somewhere. The remaining Internet free footage has long since stopped haunting me

theconnactic

@Samu said:

(The minimum resolution is still 1/192nd note).

I realized this yesterday. If I am at 80bpm and below, this becomes really nasty!

AndyPlankton

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Actually, the worst thing is listening to good stuff from a while before that a ) I didn't rate/realize was good (especially vocals etc) and b ) can't remember how I did it/what I did it with. Like watching grainy Super8 footage of a younger self sprinting over the top of the ground and knowing you never knew that that was the day you were running faster than you ever had or would again. I find this particularly galling with poems...

Sometimes I'm glad most the old footage of myself is in landfill somewhere. The remaining Internet free footage has long since stopped haunting me

Don't be so sure, Even E.T. came back from landfill

[Deleted User]

@AndyPlankton said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Actually, the worst thing is listening to good stuff from a while before that a ) I didn't rate/realize was good (especially vocals etc) and b ) can't remember how I did it/what I did it with. Like watching grainy Super8 footage of a younger self sprinting over the top of the ground and knowing you never knew that that was the day you were running faster than you ever had or would again. I find this particularly galling with poems...

Sometimes I'm glad most the old footage of myself is in landfill somewhere. The remaining Internet free footage has long since stopped haunting me

Don't be so sure, Even E.T. came back from landfill

Can't see my old footage being worth money. I was indeed slimmer and better looking in the naked shower romp video though. Maybe that will rise up to haunt me lol

AndyPlankton

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Actually, the worst thing is listening to good stuff from a while before that a ) I didn't rate/realize was good (especially vocals etc) and b ) can't remember how I did it/what I did it with. Like watching grainy Super8 footage of a younger self sprinting over the top of the ground and knowing you never knew that that was the day you were running faster than you ever had or would again. I find this particularly galling with poems...

Sometimes I'm glad most the old footage of myself is in landfill somewhere. The remaining Internet free footage has long since stopped haunting me

Don't be so sure, Even E.T. came back from landfill

Can't see my old footage being worth money. I was indeed slimmer and better looking in the naked shower romp video though. Maybe that will rise up to haunt me lol

Is it worth money to stop it getting.....leaked

[Deleted User]

@AndyPlankton said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Actually, the worst thing is listening to good stuff from a while before that a ) I didn't rate/realize was good (especially vocals etc) and b ) can't remember how I did it/what I did it with. Like watching grainy Super8 footage of a younger self sprinting over the top of the ground and knowing you never knew that that was the day you were running faster than you ever had or would again. I find this particularly galling with poems...

Sometimes I'm glad most the old footage of myself is in landfill somewhere. The remaining Internet free footage has long since stopped haunting me

Don't be so sure, Even E.T. came back from landfill

Can't see my old footage being worth money. I was indeed slimmer and better looking in the naked shower romp video though. Maybe that will rise up to haunt me lol

Is it worth money to stop it getting.....leaked

Haha not really. I have no shame these days

BiancaNeve

@theconnactic said:
I think Cubasis is gearing up as a Songwriting tool, @Nkersov, and there was indeed a huge improvement in this area (better instruments, fixed zooming, time stretch and pitch shift), hence some nice tricks, useful for mixing and arranging, were left out. I think that if you want precise arranging, precise audio editing and precise mixing for finishing your tracks, Auria is (and will be for a while) the way to go.

Or Cubase on Mac/PC

[Deleted User]

@BiancaNeve said:

@theconnactic said:
I think Cubasis is gearing up as a Songwriting tool, @Nkersov, and there was indeed a huge improvement in this area (better instruments, fixed zooming, time stretch and pitch shift), hence some nice tricks, useful for mixing and arranging, were left out. I think that if you want precise arranging, precise audio editing and precise mixing for finishing your tracks, Auria is (and will be for a while) the way to go.

Or Cubase on Mac/PC

That makes a lot of sense. If you have limited resources to put into one of your products, it kinda makes sense to align it to compliment one of your other products. Cubasis leaning towards a writing tool, with Cubasis as their all in writing / mixing / make the coffee tool

robosardine

I just bought this- I don't think I have ever been so happy with an app so quickly

theconnactic

Yes, this, @BiancaNeve - and this paradigm of starting on the iPad and finishing on the Desktop that seems to guide both Cubasis and Garageband development is a huge turn off for me. I actually don't blame the dev teams behind both of them, because they are simply following Apple's intended roadmap. But that is another plus for Auria Pro: it postioned itself to compete directly with the big boys!

jn2002dk

@theconnactic said:
Yes, this, @BiancaNeve - and this paradigm of starting on the iPad and finishing on the Desktop that seems to guide both Cubasis and Garageband development is a huge turn off for me. I actually don't blame the dev teams behind both of them, because they are simply following Apple's intended roadmap. But that is another plus for Auria Pro: it postioned itself to compete directly with the big boys!

Look, you seem like a nice guy but could we please not discuss Auria in every single Cubasis thread?

For me at least, it's getting kind of tiresome to see every Cubasis thread devolve into Auria vs Cubasis

I also think it's a bit disrespectful towards the Cubasis team who has obviously worked hard on this release

theconnactic

I am a Cubasis customer who hapens to also have Auria. So I definitely will keep comparing both having my own needs and experiences in perspective.

Anyway, thank you for the compliment as well, @jn2002dk: I am sure you are a fune person as well.

ErrkaPetti

@LFS said:
Thanks for all your suggestions and feature requests.
Some we might know (and there are included in the backlog already) others will be added, discussed and evaluated.

While it looks easy from the outside to have particular feature request or fixes included in the app, please consider that some of them come at high costs.

We do our best to find the best compromise to include as much we can do with every update.

Best,
Lars

Dear Lars (and the team behind on Steinberg)!

If money is the problem to progress the development of Cubasis 2.x, give us a chance to give you some cash!

I have bought the two FX packs, but, I wish there were some more IAP that you could give us (more sampled instruments, loops etc)...

Can’t understand why the nice Spin FX should be free? There you could have gain $4 as an IAP?

AndyPlankton

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@BiancaNeve said:

@theconnactic said:
I think Cubasis is gearing up as a Songwriting tool, @Nkersov, and there was indeed a huge improvement in this area (better instruments, fixed zooming, time stretch and pitch shift), hence some nice tricks, useful for mixing and arranging, were left out. I think that if you want precise arranging, precise audio editing and precise mixing for finishing your tracks, Auria is (and will be for a while) the way to go.

Or Cubase on Mac/PC

That makes a lot of sense. If you have limited resources to put into one of your products, it kinda makes sense to align it to compliment one of your other products. Cubasis leaning towards a writing tool, with Cubasis as their all in writing / mixing / make the coffee tool

It is not only about limited resources for development, it is also about limited resources on the device, which is particularly important in the case of a DAW that not only performs complex calculations, but also hosts other programs that are also performing complex calculations. Contrary to what many think, the chips in iDevices are not yet able to run the same speeds as a chip in a desktop, the specs may compare on paper but in reality the just cannot perform the same, it's all about cooling. So the chips are throttled to stop them getting too hot.
Anyone who has overclocked a PC will know it is no good increasing the clock speed unless you upgrade the cooling otherwise your just going to kill the processor.
There is no point putting all that functionality in when you cannot run it. The best thing to do is concentrate your effort on what can sensibly be used.
I am sure that given the opportunity Lars and the team would relish the opportunity to work on giving us full Cubase on iPad. This is probably better placed in the other thread we had going today regarding pro apps, but sits here too.

I think this update continues the focus on being able to capture and nurture ideas in a way that will enable further development of that idea either on the iPad or on a better performing and more feature rich platform without reducing the quality before it gets onto that platform.
The past developments for Cubasis have been increased audio quality, so 24 Bit audio up to 96Khz, along with the release of the UR interfaces supporting that format audio (some of which also feature onboard DSP giving you even more processing power).
Addition of AUx and IAA to allow us to easily capture the amazing audio sources available on iOS.
Then a 'studio grade' channel strip to enable us get the best recordings we can, and mix those recordings, and not destroy the audio quality with inferior processing.
Real time time stretch to let us get the most out of recording we have made, and pitch shifting to play with them even more.
And lastly the ease of use workflow that you get with Cubasis, and the recent update has improved on that, and the additions have been done in a very user friendly way indeed.

You can finish a full project within Cubasis if you want to, but you can also carry that project on using even more tools and better performance on the PC platform if you wish. Win Win. It provides a relatively cheap entry point for a new user (just over £200 for iPad mini 16Gb + £49 Cubasis + interface of choice ranging from £20 upwards), who can progress onto a desktop platform at a later date if they wish.

Cubasis compared to Cubase, is like a Portastudio compared to a Fully fledged recording studio, well that's actually a bit unfair to Lars and the team, its more like a fairly well equipped 16 track studio compared to a very well equiped multi room studio, sorry guys I used the portastudio comparison because of the portability aspect of Cubasis Hope you don't mind.

I think Steinberg have a very balanced product line that caters for everyone from the beginner, through enthusiast to Professional.

lovadamusic

@theconnactic said:
Yes, this, @BiancaNeve - and this paradigm of starting on the iPad and finishing on the Desktop that seems to guide both Cubasis and Garageband development is a huge turn off for me. I actually don't blame the dev teams behind both of them, because they are simply following Apple's intended roadmap. But that is another plus for Auria Pro: it postioned itself to compete directly with the big boys!

Are you suggesting that Apple and Steinberg intentionally "dumb down" their apps so we'll use their desktop DAWs? I think it really makes no sense for Apple or Steinberg to match resources for development of iOS apps with what they devote to their desktop products, even if iOS devices were as capable.
The new Cubasis just became an even cooler app, and I think I'm going to enjoy working with it. It doesn't make Auria Pro any less capable, and AP has its advantages, as we know. But I still enjoy working on a more powerful desktop, and with apps that take advantage of that much larger space and power. I think a time will come when we have the power on mobile devices but, for now, I like having both mobile and desktop, each for their strengths.

Samu

@ErrkaPetti said:

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I have bought the two FX packs, but, I wish there were some more IAP that you could give us (more sampled instruments, loops etc)...

Can’t understand why the nice Spin FX should be free? There you could have gain $4 as an IAP?

I somehow feel we'll see more IAPs coming soon. At least I hope so!
(Still dreaming of a 'iGroove Agent' & 'iHalion Sonic' IAPs for Cubasis).

For now I'll try to calm myself down and let the Cubasis team digest all the 'issues' that have been reported so far...
(For me personally it's solving the issues with IAA-Instrument/AU-X Track Freezing, Separate Grid-Lines for arranger and midi-editor and an option for 'triplet grid' in the midi-editor).

Any improvements to the existing tools is always welcome like pre/post frequency histogram for the Parametric EQ.

As I've understood improved File/Folder management is quite a big 'task'.

Guess I need to play with the Spin FX now

StormJH1

Want to post to just briefly mention my positive experiences with the 2.0 upgrade! The on-board synth (Micrologue) is a hidden gem and would be a quality synth on its own - love the new presets. Time stretching and transposition were easy to figure out and seemed to work pretty well.

From what I've read in this thread, I think the priorities for future work should be addressing the track freezing issues and maybe working on evolving the file management system. The 1/192th resolution thing could be seen as a limitation, but I haven't found it to be a problem so far.

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Question for more experienced Cubasis users, when recording a drum track, you can set up a loop and leave record on and then every time you hit a new instrument, it will add that to the MIDI data. But let's say I hit stop for some reason and then want to continue adding instruments (like layering in some hats or claps). Cubasis then creates a separate MIDI track superimposed over the earlier one with only the added data.

Is there a way to merge all of that data into a single MIDI track, rather than multiple separate ones on top of each other? I don't think it's "Glue" because that glues two entries together in sequential order, one after another, right?

Samu

@StormJH1 said:

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Question for more experienced Cubasis users, when recording a drum track, you can set up a loop and leave record on and then every time you hit a new instrument, it will add that to the MIDI data. But let's say I hit stop for some reason and then want to continue adding instruments (like layering in some hats or claps). Cubasis then creates a separate MIDI track superimposed over the earlier one with only the added data.

It already creates new 'midi-event' on top of the previous one when it loops?!
(When you hit record and 'record' over an existing part it doesn't replace what is 'under' it but creates a new midi-event).

• correction, un-tap record, and tap record again to add a new layer while the track is still playing.

Is there a way to merge all of that data into a single MIDI track, rather than multiple separate ones on top of each other? I don't think it's "Glue" because that glues two entries together in sequential order, one after another, right?

Yes, select the 'events' with the selection tool and tap on 'Glue'.

aaronpc

@StormJH1 said:
Is there a way to merge all of that data into a single MIDI track, rather than multiple separate ones on top of each other? I don't think it's "Glue" because that glues two entries together in sequential order, one after another, right?

It's kind of weird and cumbersome but does have advantages if you think of them as takes— record a few separate passes in the same region, then you can easily split them out to different tracks and give them different instruments.

I'm not entirely sure why they choose to do it this way— keeping it consistent with how audio is handled, mostly. I'd prefer the normal way, or to be given an option, but it's not a deal killer. Is this how it is done in Cubase?