Cubasis 2 now available / special launch price

firejan82

@Littlewoodg said:

@Samu said:

@gonekrazy3000 said:

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I found that too. But can't seem to figure out how it works. @LFS could you please
Explain what this side chain setting is ? Or how to route audio for it to "listen" ?

For me that was somewhat obvious. You can 'tune in'(Using frequency and q) on the noise that the noise-gate will cut out(To my ear, that's is the way it works?!).

When you press the 'listen' button you will hear the audio that will be filtered out.

It's Sunday but on Monday i feel @LFS will give us an explanation

I'm clear on the how it works, my puzzlement was upon hearing that sidechaing was in the works, when here it is in 2.0

I think and hope that they mean that sidechain compression and gate is in the works, the kind where you can use other tracks as the input. I thought using one track as input to trigger the gate or compression of the other track was what is meant by sidechaining. I'm sure this noise gate sidecheain is a great feature but is it technically a sidechain if the input is the same track? Just a technical question, I'm no expert.

LFS

@gonekrazy3000 said:

@Littlewoodg said:

@LFS said:
Side cha> @gonekrazy3000 said:

@LFS said:
Thanks to Doug for his nice video feature of the newly added 76 Micrologue presets included in Cubasis 2: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/15385/video-from-doug-cubasis-2-new-micrologue-synth-the-big-soundtest-demo-for-ipad#latest

We love Micrologue ourselves pretty much, and are glad Doug and you do too!

Do not forget to make use of the modwheel when fiddling around with the new presets (and make use of the automation support when recording these).

Happy weekend everybody,

Lars

Hey Lars. Truly am enjoying cubasis a ton since I bought it. Just one question.
Is there a way to side chain in 2.0 using native effects? . Or at least a volume duck
Effect ? Cant seem to figure out how to do it other than drawing volume automation
Manually.....

Glad to hear you like Cubasis 2!
Side chaining is on our list for future updates.

Best
Lars

This really puzzled me, the new channel strip has a set of controls labeled "Side Chain"...

I found that too. But can't seem to figure out how it works. @LFS could you please
Explain what this side chain setting is ? Or how to route audio for it to "listen" ?

Hi all,

Side chaining usually means that another track is used as an additional input to influence the signal output of a compressor or a gate. The Channel Strip Noise Gate’s side chain however does not take another track’s signal, but it applies a filter to the track (or bus) it’s sitting on and uses this as the side chain’s input. In short, it copies its input, filters it, and uses this signal as the side chain, instead of another track. Proper side chaining where another track can be selected as input, is on the list of future updates.

Best,
Lars

JohnnyGoodyear

@LFS Thanks for keeping on top of us here Lars, your attention is second only to your app, which I have been spending most of my limited time playing with these past days. It really IS a major step forward. I have learned (slowly ) that in the end every app should be compared against itself rather than others and while Cubasis has always, obviously, been a high-featured iOS DAW, I have never gotten on with it enough to be bothered to really get on with it....mostly, yes, the zoom issues...but with these being largely solved I am finding myself really making progress in lots of other areas now....thanks again.

LFS

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
@LFS Thanks for keeping on top of us here Lars, your attention is second only to your app, which I have been spending most of my limited time playing with these past days. It really IS a major step forward. I have learned (slowly ) that in the end every app should be compared against itself rather than others and while Cubasis has always, obviously, been a high-featured iOS DAW, I have never gotten on with it enough to be bothered to really get on with it....mostly, yes, the zoom issues...but with these being largely solved I am finding myself really making progress in lots of other areas now....thanks again.

Many thanks for the kind words.
We as a team appreciate all the nice feedback over the last couple days.

We're glad to hear you're happy with Cubasis 2 so far...

Best,
Lars

djjuniorpops

@LFS it would be nice if some of the presets for FX from desktop Cubase make it in Cubasis .
Again this update ROCKS

anickt

@LFS

I will be using Cubasis much more since the recent update. Thanks!

Samu

By now all the requests and issues I've bumped into are 'known'(Triplet-Grids, Track Freezing etc.) so I'm looking forward to even more surprises and hoping that @LFS and the Cubasis team will sort them out in time and also prepare some 'IAP goodies' for us all to look forward to so we can help and show our continued support and keep Cubasis healthy and 'alive'

ErrkaPetti

@Samu said:
By now all the requests and issues I've bumped into are 'known'(Triplet-Grids, Track Freezing etc.) so I'm looking forward to even more surprises and hoping that @LFS and the Cubasis team will sort them out in time and also prepare some 'IAP goodies' for us all to look forward to so we can help and show our continued support and keep Cubasis healthy and 'alive'

I could gladly pay another $50 if it was possible, and, I knew that that money stayed at the iOS team...

Sometimes I wishes that Apple had an option for us to pay more than the prizetag for the app, but, excluding the 30% Apple take (everything "extra" to the developers)...

I have bought Auria Pro twice as an example to support the dev...

Samu

@LFS I have a question regarding the new 'Auto Quantise' feature and it's way of working.

To me it seems that the new 'auto-quantise' quantises the notes after the record button is disabled or recording is stopped and thus doesn't quantise 'on the fly' which would have made it very usable tool for 'loop recording' and 'overdubbing' since each 'pass/loop' would then be automatically quantised.(I thought this was the intended behaviour, I might been wrong though?!).

The work-around for now is to disable and enable the record button on each pass and let auto-quantise do it's magic between passes/loops. The same could already be accomplished by tapping the quantise button after each pass/loop.

The setting could be called 'auto-quantise on loop' or something similar?
This is just a minor annoyance/observation and in now way a big 'show stopper'.

I have also found some 'issues' with the Mini-Sampler and it's Input-selector
(This could be a combination of IAA-Bugs and other iOS issues).

It is sometimes very 'unresponsive'(sometimes I need to press 4-5 times or wait for a while) and after pressing 'record' in the sampler I have to double-tap on the home-button and switch to the app I wan't to record as the app-icon doesn't switch to the app it's trying to record. Also if a 'source app' has already been selected in the Inter-App menu it can not be 're-selected'(It's greyed out) until the 'source app' has been closed. And well 'sampling' seems to be limited to apps with IAA-Generator support so no sampling IAA-Instruments such as Moog Model 15.

My work-around to the above 'issue' is to use the normal Cubasis Audio-Tracks to record the samples and then save them to the media-bay and from there import them into a new sampler instrument.

For most parts Cubasis 2 works amazing well, love the new time-stretch and transpose features!

[Deleted User]

Has anyone noticed these a one measure delay in Rock Drum Machine when we tap play in Cubasis? Are there any settings I need to change? Thanks!

kobamoto

hey could you guys link to a video showing the new remix features of the app if anybody knows of one?

wim

@MusicMan4Christ said:
Has anyone noticed these a one measure delay in Rock Drum Machine when we tap play in Cubasis? Are there any settings I need to change? Thanks!

For me it's starting immediately, but taking a couple of bars to sync the tempo. With Rock DM in an Audiobus input and Cubasis in the output, and tempo at 120, pressing play in Cubasis makes the Rock DM tempo jump to 215 then to around 121, finally settling into the 120 by the third measure.

lovadamusic

@wim said:
I see this all the time at work with email. There are people who compulsively store every email in organized folders, and then there are people who do no organization but rely on search to find what they need.

My experience (having dealt with 1,000's of users) is the ones who organized were more successful up until the last 15 years or so, but now that search tools are so robust and fast virtually 100% of the time people are more successful with search than they are with filing. The Internet itself is proof of that. Just think back to the days of Yahoo "organizing" the Internet, and Google's subsequent triumph.

That said, my experience is there is absolutely no way to change people thinking one way or another. "Filers" are set in their need to do so, and "Pilers" are incapable of it. Fortunately, search doesn't care either way.

The difference is one doesn't even need to tag to search files, web pages, email, etc to be able to quickly search them. Audio is different as there are no built in words. So, tagging is a good alternative IMO.

@u0421793 is completely right. "Folders" are really only tags that an OS or application sort, group, and then represent as folders. I wonder if people who organize files into folders realize that all they are really doing is a specialized type of tagging? Only instead of typing in a tag name, it is applied by dragging the file into the folder.

I doubt that there is any serious challenge in sorting, grouping, and then presenting a pile of files this way. The OS only gets in the way if you're relying on it to it to organize files. There's nothing to stop an application presenting files as if they're in folders (even though they're really not). Absolutely it can't be anywhere near as difficult as the serious audio and GUI shit these guys do.

However I can totally see why people geared toward audio processing programming would be put off by having to divert into something so mundane as file organization. And in the scale of thinking about "what is going to sell more of this product", I can't imagine file organization being high on the list. As much as we want (need) it, I can't imagine new customers browsing the App Store looking for DAWs based on files organization.

Cubasis 3 is out now with Improved File Management!

I can’t speak for others who cherish file management, but I have some awareness of what files are on disk. In a bizarre phase I went through in the 80’s, I disassembled the machine code of a Commodore 1541 disk drive… my, that’s embarrassing to admit. Of course, folders are just tags, an abstraction. So why are they not respected as the beautiful tags that they are? That’s what I use them for. A hierarchy of folders is a system of tags that, within a “finder” or “explorer” app, can be viewed, sorted, accessed, processed, whatever and whenever I want because they and the files they contain are tagged as being connected in a way that makes sense to me. If one wants to view a folder or file in multiple folders, I find aliases or shortcuts work fairly well. And why would having a folder system prevent anyone from using tagging? Files in folders can still be tagged, something I do all the time on computers with normal OS’s.

Samu

@kobamoto said:
hey could you guys link to a video showing the new remix features of the app if anybody knows of one?

No videos but here's a screenshot

You got your tempo-synced gates, filters, delays, scratchers etc
Somewhat similar to Novations Launchpad App.

brambos

@Samu said:
You got your tempo-synced gates, filters, delays, scratchers etc
Somewhat similar to Novations Launchpad App.

And Roland's Scatter function on the Airas

kobamoto

wish they would put out some videos that show the spin fx in depth, not all of these types of fx are good, launchpad and remix live are good ones but there are definitely some duds out there

Samu

@kobamoto said:
wish they would put out some videos that show the spin fx in depth, not all of these types of fx are good, launchpad and remix live are good ones but there are definitely some duds out there

To my ears they sound pretty darn good and as a bonus everything can be fully automated and you can use as many instances as you need

AlterEgo_UK

@thesoundtestroom said he would do a separate video on the Spin FX and Channel Strip :smile
and @jakoB_haQ has done a great video about other remixing features like timestretch and formant filter

See their individual threads.

I don't do much remixing but I have already used the timestretch after recording my guitar to another track I had imported at the wrong tempo. It worked like a charm so it became in time with the project

sirdavidabraham

@LFS said:

@Samu said:
Hi All!

Regarding the 'Track Freeze Issues' I'm writing this 'Dear Lars(@LFS) Letter' that should kindly forwarded to the Cubasis development team for evaluation and potential 'correction' as soon as possible.

As mentioned in many previous posts here at the forum this 'bug' has plagued Cubasis for a long time!

With the arrival of IAA-Instruments and AudioUnit-Extension(AUv3) Plug-Ins track-freezing has become an essential tool to save CPU-Resources and to overcome the limitation of only being able to use one instance instance of an IAA-Instrument.

The attached image shows the 'bug'(frozen audio is not aligned to the grid thus doesn't match the midi-notes) in action when freezing a simple track containing an AUv3 Plug-in (The amazing Ruismaker FM by @brambos).

This bug is not present when freezing tracks containing Cubasis Mini-Sampler or Cubasis Microsonic but is present when freezing tracks containing Cubasis Micrologue and just about any available IAA-Instrument or AUv3 Instrument!

This 'bug' is also present when doing a 'Mixdown' of a project...

I know that not all IAA-Instruments or AUv3 Plug-Ins are created equal and this will be a challenging task to fix.

I do know that the Cubasis 'buffer-size' and 'midi-delay' play an important role here as they affect the results of the frozen track as changing these parameters affects the outcome of the frozen track.

My current somewhat tedious work-around is to create an empty midi-region at the start of the track to avoid having the initial transients being 'cut-off'(the audio arrives too early!) and after that do precise trimming in 'time-mode' for sample-accuracy...

I would appreciate an honest answer regarding this issue and also a hint on what is being done to 'correct/fix' it?
(I'm using Cubasis 2.0 on an iPad AIr 2 iOS10.0.2).

Thank you all in advance.
/Samuel

Hi Samu,

We're aware of the issue and our engineering evaluates a possible fix.

Best,
Lars

One more thing on this, it goes beyond Freeze it's also when exporting audio files (or creating stems) which yields even more inaccuracy than the freezing in my experience.

This becomes problematic if stems are being created to be mixed / edited elsewhere.

Thanks @samu @LFS

kobamoto

@Samu said:

@kobamoto said:
wish they would put out some videos that show the spin fx in depth, not all of these types of fx are good, launchpad and remix live are good ones but there are definitely some duds out there

To my ears they sound pretty darn good and as a bonus everything can be fully automated and you can use as many instances as you need

Samu is it possible to put more than one of these spin fx modules on a single track or on the master track?

kobamoto

@AlterEgo_UK said:
@thesoundtestroom said he would do a separate video on the Spin FX and Channel Strip :smile
and @jakoB_haQ has done a great video about other remixing features like timestretch and formant filter

See their individual threads.

I don't do much remixing but I have already used the timestretch after recording my guitar to another track I had imported at the wrong tempo. It worked like a charm so it became in time with the project

yeah I saw Jakobs that was cool, but I'm surprised steinberg isn't doing one on the spin fx, as for iOS this is a major feature. ... if you can actually put more than one of these modules on a single track and if they get the export options and freeze, plus grid issues fixed them I'm definitely going to get this app..... I wonder how long the sale will last though?

Samu

@sirdavidabraham said:

One more thing on this, it goes beyond Freeze it's also when exporting audio files (or creating stems) which yields even more inaccuracy than the freezing in my experience.

This becomes problematic if stems are being created to be mixed / edited elsewhere.

Thanks @samu @LFS

Ouch, Didn't realise it was affecting that too until I tried it...
At least it's good to know the Cubasis team is aware of this 'issue'.

Temporary solution for me is to sequence the plug-ins with with ModStep and export the audio to Cubasis.
(The just released update to ModStep fixes one issue with loop-recording so the frozen/recorded loops are finally 'sample accurately perfect' with all my AU-X's and for the most part with all IAA-Instruments i've tried so far).

I trust that the Cubasis team over at Steinberg has the knowledge on how to fix this as it can be done.
(After all the ModStep team managed to do it so...).

LFS

Hi all,

A few days ago I've commented on the Model 15 freeze issue (empty audio file).

Gave it a recheck this morning and it worked fine with Model 15, Cubasis on the iPad Pro 12.9 on iOS 10.

Apple's IAA can be unstable from time to time (nothing we can do against).
If you experience empty files it makes sense to restart the app or reload the instrument.

Hope that helps.

Best,
Lars

LFS

@Samu said:

@sirdavidabraham said:

One more thing on this, it goes beyond Freeze it's also when exporting audio files (or creating stems) which yields even more inaccuracy than the freezing in my experience.

This becomes problematic if stems are being created to be mixed / edited elsewhere.

Thanks @samu @LFS

Ouch, Didn't realise it was affecting that too until I tried it...
At least it's good to know the Cubasis team is aware of this 'issue'.

Temporary solution for me is to sequence the plug-ins with with ModStep and export the audio to Cubasis.
(The just released update to ModStep fixes one issue with loop-recording so the frozen/recorded loops are finally 'sample accurately perfect' with all my AU-X's and for the most part with all IAA-Instruments i've tried so far).

I trust that the Cubasis team over at Steinberg has the knowledge on how to fix this as it can be done.
(After all the ModStep team managed to do it so...).

As stated before, we will look into the issue.

Best,
Lars

Samu

@LFS said:

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Gave it a recheck this morning and it worked fine with Model 15, Cubasis on the iPad Pro 12.9 on iOS 10.

Model 15 freezing has been working 'flawless' after Moog updated the app
It's Animoog that is the current 'issue' and it needs a similar update from Moog...

LFS

@kobamoto said:
wish they would put out some videos that show the spin fx in depth, not all of these types of fx are good, launchpad and remix live are good ones but there are definitely some duds out there

Please find Spin FX featured in the great Cubasis 2 tutorial, kindly provided by Sebastian, our Steinberg Senior Product Specialist.

Also the Spin FX plug-in and its functions are well explained in Cubasis' in-app help.

The in-app help includes a dedicated "What's New in 2.0" chapter that lists quick links to all new feature descriptions. Simply tap the corresponding and similar named picture in the in-app help to get there. More than worth a look.

Best,
Lars

LFS

@kobamoto said:

@Samu said:

@kobamoto said:
wish they would put out some videos that show the spin fx in depth, not all of these types of fx are good, launchpad and remix live are good ones but there are definitely some duds out there

To my ears they sound pretty darn good and as a bonus everything can be fully automated and you can use as many instances as you need

Samu is it possible to put more than one of these spin fx modules on a single track or on the master track?

Feel free to insert several Spin FX instances on a single track and/or the master track.
Automation is simply done by tapping the corresponding write button on top of the effect interface and hit play.

Best,
Lars

LFS

@Samu said:

@kobamoto said:
hey could you guys link to a video showing the new remix features of the app if anybody knows of one?

No videos but here's a screenshot

You got your tempo-synced gates, filters, delays, scratchers etc
Somewhat similar to Novations Launchpad App.

Our Cubasis 2 tutorial includes a short demo of Spin FX as well (around minute 16):

Once again, please make sure to watch the tutorial since it demonstrates all of the new Cubasis 2 features in detail (plus Sebastian shares a lot of extra tips in it).

Also, the Cubasis 2 website includes some audio demos of Spin FX (please find them along other demos in the media player section on the "What's Cubasis" and "New in Cubasis 2" site located top above).

www.steinberg.net/cubasis

Best,
Lars

gonekrazy3000

@LFS said:

@Samu said:

@sirdavidabraham said:

One more thing on this, it goes beyond Freeze it's also when exporting audio files (or creating stems) which yields even more inaccuracy than the freezing in my experience.

This becomes problematic if stems are being created to be mixed / edited elsewhere.

Thanks @samu @LFS

Ouch, Didn't realise it was affecting that too until I tried it...
At least it's good to know the Cubasis team is aware of this 'issue'.

Temporary solution for me is to sequence the plug-ins with with ModStep and export the audio to Cubasis.
(The just released update to ModStep fixes one issue with loop-recording so the frozen/recorded loops are finally 'sample accurately perfect' with all my AU-X's and for the most part with all IAA-Instruments i've tried so far).

I trust that the Cubasis team over at Steinberg has the knowledge on how to fix this as it can be done.
(After all the ModStep team managed to do it so...).

As stated before, we will look into the issue.

Best,
Lars

I do hope you guys fix it soon. since the fact that stem export doesn't work properly killed it for me.
i usually do the final mixing and mastering in Ableton on my PC. guess its back to AUM for now till
you guys sort this out.

kobamoto

thank you Lars, yes I had seen the cubasis video you referred to earlier, all they did with the spin fx module was automate a filter pass so I was left with the impression that the meat of what the effect could do was left out. The narrator did mention that it sounds good on drums and such just no demo, but the fact that you can apply multiple modules on a track is a very attractive aspect of the update. btw how long will your sale last?