New Korg Gadget: Lexington

firejan82

Yes, same here, it's bad enough on the iPad takes too much time even with Korg's precision flicking I can't even imagine how bad it's on the iPhone.

ecamburn

This is true of every control. No way of resetting controls to default value that I've seen. Agree it's a big problem.

[Deleted User]

Although they tried to simulate the original we definitely need a dlreturn to default ability. Hopefully enough folks complaint and they can add this on the next update.

@ecamburn said:
This is true of every control. No way of resetting controls to default value that I've seen. Agree it's a big problem.

null____void

This might be a repeat question, too lazy to read every page, but anybody on an ipad 4 buy Odyssey and see if it works inside Gadget? Cuz the app itself is 64-bit only but Gadget is 32-bit compatible, wondering if there's any hope for a boy without a 64-bit device.

gonekrazy3000

@rhcball said:
This might be a repeat question, too lazy to read every page, but anybody on an ipad 4 buy Odyssey and see if it works inside Gadget? Cuz the app itself is 64-bit only but Gadget is 32-bit compatible, wondering if there's any hope for a boy without a 64-bit device.

even an Air1 struggles to run 4 instances in gadget. and thats a 64bit device. wouldn't keep your hopes up....

Carnbot

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
I tell you what. The pitch sliders on Lexington are really bloody annoying. If you touch them by accident the thing goes wildly out of tune and it's almost impossible to set them back to zero.

If you do that live while tweaking some other slider (that's just next to it) it ruins the whole track. It's very hard to get it back to zero.

Anyone else found this?

It's particularly bad on iPhone.

Any solutions appreciated.

I agree, it's annoying. I've been mapping everything to controllers like a bcr2000 and it works much better that way of course. I hope Korg could add some slider sensitivity settings like the Apesoft apps. Best workaround when your nobile is to design your own midi controller in tbmidi or Lemur. Although not sure if either of those has an iPhone version. Some kind of midi controller app anyway.

Jes

@rhcball said:
This might be a repeat question, too lazy to read every page, but anybody on an ipad 4 buy Odyssey and see if it works inside Gadget? Cuz the app itself is 64-bit only but Gadget is 32-bit compatible, wondering if there's any hope for a boy without a 64-bit device.

Doesn't appear in Gadget on my iPad 3 although I have it on my Air 2.
Can't download the standalone app as 'Device is not compatible'.
Therefore it doesn't show up in Gadget .
I tried restoring purchases but no go.

Matt_Fletcher_2000

Two new things in Gadget to celebrate:

1. You now get automation lanes for every parameter of every Insert effect you add

2. The reverb in Lexington - sounds pretty great to me - and lots of nice options. (Generally the effects in Lexington seem a notch above what we've had before in any Gadgets)

stemshade

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
Two new things in Gadget to celebrate:

1. You now get automation lanes for every parameter of every Insert effect you add

2. The reverb in Lexington - sounds pretty great to me - and lots of nice options. (Generally the effects in Lexington seem a notch above what we've had before in any Gadgets)

and the undo, which some have said was already there. was it? i remember seeing it in the manual and getting all giddy and then looking for it and not finding it.

only functional thing i am missing (and have not tried it with the update so maybe it was sorted out) is that when playing a part in (say a rhodes piano) if you are millisecond quick on the first note it is omitted, rather than just grabbing that first pressed down note and starting it at 1. this is fine for say a drum part, but a live keyboard part needs a little give and take.

Halftone

@vpich said:

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
Two new things in Gadget to celebrate:

1. You now get automation lanes for every parameter of every Insert effect you add

2. The reverb in Lexington - sounds pretty great to me - and lots of nice options. (Generally the effects in Lexington seem a notch above what we've had before in any Gadgets)

and the undo, which some have said was already there. was it? i remember seeing it in the manual and getting all giddy and then looking for it and not finding it.

only functional thing i am missing (and have not tried it with the update so maybe it was sorted out) is that when playing a part in (say a rhodes piano) if you are millisecond quick on the first note it is omitted, rather than just grabbing that first pressed down note and starting it at 1. this is fine for say a drum part, but a live keyboard part needs a little give and take.

I haven't updated yet - but Undo is there

stemshade

@Halftone said:

@vpich said:

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
Two new things in Gadget to celebrate:

1. You now get automation lanes for every parameter of every Insert effect you add

2. The reverb in Lexington - sounds pretty great to me - and lots of nice options. (Generally the effects in Lexington seem a notch above what we've had before in any Gadgets)

and the undo, which some have said was already there. was it? i remember seeing it in the manual and getting all giddy and then looking for it and not finding it.

only functional thing i am missing (and have not tried it with the update so maybe it was sorted out) is that when playing a part in (say a rhodes piano) if you are millisecond quick on the first note it is omitted, rather than just grabbing that first pressed down note and starting it at 1. this is fine for say a drum part, but a live keyboard part needs a little give and take.

I haven't updated yet - but Undo is there

i know, question is was it added on the latest update or the previous update.

Tarekith

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stemshade

@Tarekith said:
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thanks

Halftone

@rhcball said:
This might be a repeat question, too lazy to read every page, but anybody on an ipad 4 buy Odyssey and see if it works inside Gadget? Cuz the app itself is 64-bit only but Gadget is 32-bit compatible, wondering if there's any hope for a boy without a 64-bit device.

I was also hoping for this (iPad 4 also). I bugged Korg on Twitter and Facebook about releasing a 32-bit stripped down version of Lexington as a Gadget only .. I'd happily pay 10 maybe 15 for that

Halftone

@Halftone said:

@rhcball said:
This might be a repeat question, too lazy to read every page, but anybody on an ipad 4 buy Odyssey and see if it works inside Gadget? Cuz the app itself is 64-bit only but Gadget is 32-bit compatible, wondering if there's any hope for a boy without a 64-bit device.

I was also hoping for this (iPad 4 also). I bugged Korg on Twitter and Facebook about releasing a 32-bit stripped down version of Lexington as a Gadget only .. I'd happily pay 10 maybe 15 for that

No reply from Korg. Who knows - they released a 32-bit version of IDS-10 after the initial 64 bit release - but the engine behind the Oddessei is much more advanced..

robosardine

Where are the new automation lanes for the insert effects? If they are beside the cutoff ones etc- I can't see them.

ErrkaPetti

@robosardine said:
Where are the new automation lanes for the insert effects? If they are beside the cutoff ones etc- I can't see them.

They laid down below all the other automation parameters... seems easy to find, at least for me...

Matt_Fletcher_2000

@robosardine said:
Where are the new automation lanes for the insert effects? If they are beside the cutoff ones etc- I can't see them.

Maybe add some insert effects to that track first. Then take a look. I think they will then appear.

robosardine

Ah.... now I see them- I think I had been looking for 'ifx1' or something- then quickly jumped to my usual irrational and self defeating conclusions whilst gnashing my teeth. Thanks

mireko_2

@Halftone said:

@rhcball said:
This might be a repeat question, too lazy to read every page, but anybody on an ipad 4 buy Odyssey and see if it works inside Gadget? Cuz the app itself is 64-bit only but Gadget is 32-bit compatible, wondering if there's any hope for a boy without a 64-bit device.

I was also hoping for this (iPad 4 also). I bugged Korg on Twitter and Facebook about releasing a 32-bit stripped down version of Lexington as a Gadget only .. I'd happily pay 10 maybe 15 for that

That would probably involve rewriting the whole app for a small market and would not run as well. Not to mention 32bit iPads are not being made anymore

JiggyWig

172 unread posts. Sheesh. Anyone give me the 411?

JohnnyGoodyear

@JiggyWig said:
172 unread posts. Sheesh. Anyone give me the 411?

Largely in favor, wish some of the buttons weren't so fiddly, new bits and bobs, yea Korg etc.

JiggyWig

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@JiggyWig said:
172 unread posts. Sheesh. Anyone give me the 411?

Largely in favor, wish some of the buttons weren't so fiddly, new bits and bobs, yea Korg etc.

Cheers.

I can agree with that, though I found Lexington less fiddly than the standalone ODYSSEi because you can zoom it fullscreen. This is one Gadget that loves automation too...

jbuonacc

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
Two new things in Gadget to celebrate:

1. You now get automation lanes for every parameter of every Insert effect you add

This must have been added in a previous update, I actually found this feature a few weeks ago, was pretty surprised that they allowed you to do that.

Carnbot

Gadgets much better now with Lexington but needs program change per scene for presets especially now as its so cpu intensive...wishing I had a pro. I'm finding it pretty clunky compared to Modstep in some basic arrangement tasks too since working in Gadget more, so I hope Korg is on the case etc

AudioGus

@Carnbot said:
Gadgets much better now with Lexington but needs program change per scene for presets especially now as its so cpu intensive...wishing I had a pro. I'm finding it pretty clunky compared to Modstep in some basic arrangement tasks too since working in Gadget more, so I hope Korg is on the case etc

Yah The trend is likely more of us getting pros. I will probably be really tempted in about a year.

JonLewis

My impressions plus one major disaster:

Oddy/Lexy SOUNDS utterly fantastic. You can kick back with just the Init Preset and feel bathed in pleasure. The built-in FX are gorgeous -- I want to especially hail the Phaser which is head and shoulders the best one I've heard built into any iOS app.

You can do the most incredible things using the 'Parameters Arp' with the note arp turned off. I'm a bit dizzy with the potential of this feature.

Duophonic Mode, which I confess I don't fully understand the nuts and bolts of, seems to lead to wonderfully skronky fun when you trill quickly between several notes (or hold one note while quickly pecking at others).

Very battery hungry. Standalone Oddy ate tons of charge on my iPad (Mini, whatever the two-years-ago model was) and my iPhone (6+ 128GB). iPhone 6+ got really hot too. Running Lexi in two tracks in Gadget (on iPhone 6+) also heated the phone up a lot and ate tons of charge. Tried adding a third track of Lexi to that and got spluttering unless I played just one note at a time.

In fact, since installing Lexi, Gadget makes my phone run very hot & charge-sucky even when Lexi is NOT involved in the project. For example, this morning, two tracks of Darwin only. Changes under the Gadget hood I guess?

AND NOW MY DISASTER

On my 6+, after buying Odyssei and then telling Gadget to install Lexington, I messed around with Lexi as noted above-- two tracks in Gadget and an ill-fated third. Then I wanted to mess with my favorite thing I've done in Gadget, a squirrely funk thing I had 90% finished last month. Went to open that project -- and it was not in the projects library. Nor was anything else I had worked on in Gadget during August, September, October or November. Everything newer than July has been wiped from the app. Most of it was sketches, but there were two fully fleshed out things among the dead which combined were about a solid week of obsessive work.

(I hadn't backed up to my laptop. I know that makes me very very foolish).

I have a theory as to what happened. Before the addition of Lexington, if my memory is not failing me, when I would jump from one project to another, Gadget would automatically save the project I was exiting (same way Garageband iOS always does, likewise Looptical). I had come to take this for granted for the last few months -- I don't remember hitting Save or Save As for a long ways back.

Enter the Lexington era. Lexington requires elective state saving to retain the presets you concoct within it in Gadget. I am thinking that this has switched the entire Gadget file system to require elective saving, or changes are lost. Although I'm not sure that explains why my more recent projects were COMPLETELY wiped, as opposed to reverted back to their earliest electively saved iterations. Maybe I never explicitly saved them-- though I certainly came back to them again and again and they were always stable and up to date.

So anyway. Joy, pain, sunshine, rain, etc.

ecamburn

Had a similar experience as @JonLewis . Saving regularly now.

JohnnyGoodyear

@JonLewis said:
My impressions plus one major disaster:

Oddy/Lexy SOUNDS utterly fantastic. You can kick back with just the Init Preset and feel bathed in pleasure. The built-in FX are gorgeous -- I want to especially hail the Phaser which is head and shoulders the best one I've heard built into any iOS app.

You can do the most incredible things using the 'Parameters Arp' with the note arp turned off. I'm a bit dizzy with the potential of this feature.

Duophonic Mode, which I confess I don't fully understand the nuts and bolts of, seems to lead to wonderfully skronky fun when you trill quickly between several notes (or hold one note while quickly pecking at others).

Very battery hungry. Standalone Oddy ate tons of charge on my iPad (Mini, whatever the two-years-ago model was) and my iPhone (6+ 128GB). iPhone 6+ got really hot too. Running Lexi in two tracks in Gadget (on iPhone 6+) also heated the phone up a lot and ate tons of charge. Tried adding a third track of Lexi to that and got spluttering unless I played just one note at a time.

In fact, since installing Lexi, Gadget makes my phone run very hot & charge-sucky even when Lexi is NOT involved in the project. For example, this morning, two tracks of Darwin only. Changes under the Gadget hood I guess?

AND NOW MY DISASTER

On my 6+, after buying Odyssei and then telling Gadget to install Lexington, I messed around with Lexi as noted above-- two tracks in Gadget and an ill-fated third. Then I wanted to mess with my favorite thing I've done in Gadget, a squirrely funk thing I had 90% finished last month. Went to open that project -- and it was not in the projects library. Nor was anything else I had worked on in Gadget during August, September, October or November. Everything newer than July has been wiped from the app. Most of it was sketches, but there were two fully fleshed out things among the dead which combined were about a solid week of obsessive work.

(I hadn't backed up to my laptop. I know that makes me very very foolish).

I have a theory as to what happened. Before the addition of Lexington, if my memory is not failing me, when I would jump from one project to another, Gadget would automatically save the project I was exiting (same way Garageband iOS always does, likewise Looptical). I had come to take this for granted for the last few months -- I don't remember hitting Save or Save As for a long ways back.

Enter the Lexington era. Lexington requires elective state saving to retain the presets you concoct within it in Gadget. I am thinking that this has switched the entire Gadget file system to require elective saving, or changes are lost. Although I'm not sure that explains why my more recent projects were COMPLETELY wiped, as opposed to reverted back to their earliest electively saved iterations. Maybe I never explicitly saved them-- though I certainly came back to them again and again and they were always stable and up to date.

So anyway. Joy, pain, sunshine, rain, etc.

Wow. Great post and some serious saving things to think about....

firejan82

@JonLewis

I think Gadget was always like that. It remembers the last thing you did but you have to save it to keep it if you want to start something new or load another project.