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KRFT 1.1 update, iPad version

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  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    By the way I love the pre-quantised keyboard. It just makes my playing sound so much more... in time!

    Can you explain how this works? It's the one piece of the whole experience that has confounded me. I keep pounding on the pads and "missing" with the timing of the notes and have to go and fix in the piano roll.

    I have the same experience. How do I fix this? Everything else in this app is so well thought out that I assume I'm mishandling some beautiful interface gift....

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    By the way I love the pre-quantised keyboard. It just makes my playing sound so much more... in time!

    Can you explain how this works? It's the one piece of the whole experience that has confounded me. I keep pounding on the pads and "missing" with the timing of the notes and have to go and fix in the piano roll.

    I have the same experience. How do I fix this? Everything else in this app is so well thought out that I assume I'm mishandling some beautiful interface gift....

    I am the third of blind mice in search of some enlightenment....

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    This blind mouse has figured out that holding down the pads while recording a melodic loop will quantize to the setting in top left corner. This does not help with a kick/snare pattern on my end, however. So I clearly must be doing it wrong.

  • db909db909

    In KRFT when you have a quantize setting enabled, it quantizes the live input rather than doing it after recording as you may be used to in other apps. So if you're not able to jive with it, simply turn off the quantization. I prefer it off myself. However, it is really great for doing arpeggios and fast runs quickly. Just run your fingers all over the place with the quantize on.

  • TheVimFuegoTheVimFuego

    @db909 said:
    In KRFT when you have a quantize setting enabled, it quantizes the live input rather than doing it after recording as you may be used to in other apps. So if you're not able to jive with it, simply turn off the quantization. I prefer it off myself. However, it is really great for doing arpeggios and fast runs quickly. Just run your fingers all over the place with the quantize on.

    I had similar frustrations trying to play the ReSlice sections "live" with the keyboard until I realised I had to turn the Arps off. I thought it was fundamentally broken and couldn't understand why nobody else was reporting it ...

  • Blipsford_BaubieBlipsford_Baubie

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @db909 said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    I think it's much better than iKaosilator personallly.

    Lots of apps are better than iKaossilator in many ways, but none of them have the live "one touch at a time, note replace, gesture recording" thing for melodies, etc. That's the special sauce. But KRFT is most definitely awesome. You really can just fill up the screen with loops and find a way to perform them into something coherent.

    Yep. And unlike Launchpad, Loopy etc... you can change the loops at any time since they are midi not audio. Something I think the app should make much more of in the future :).

    It would become the ultimate multi-track midi sequencer - a hardware sequencer killer.

    I'm not sure that is a midi vs audio thing. For example you can change loops at any time in blocs wave without audio dropping out. I'm assuming you mean changing loops while mid-loop and the loop you changed to picks up from the same location in time.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Are you planning to bring in your own audio drum loops and jam with those? Or create them inside KRFT? Just wanna get a feel of folks creating flow..

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    Just spent about forty minutes with it. The first ten minutes was, 'So what do I need this for?' and the last ten minutes have been, 'Oh snap son, this is a new thingy isn't it?'

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    Huh, just realised that this is what I was hoping to get out of Skram but on steroids... I can't wait for Link IAA etc and record this into Blocs or Cubasis. Until then I can actually just prune and tune these surfaces.... So actually why rush recording?

    This app suddenly feels woefuly underpriced.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @AudioGus said:
    Huh, just realised that this is what I was hoping to get out of Skram but on steroids... I can't wait for Link IAA etc and record this into Blocs or Cubasis. Until then I can actually just prune and tune these surfaces.... So actually why rush recording?

    This app suddenly feels woefuly underpriced.

    And that, my friend, is where the wonderful disease is to be found, not in the ones that eat your pocket money without looking back, but in the few who make it all make glorious sense...

  • Alex foxAlex fox

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Once KRFT gets midi out surely it's only a matter of time until we see some top artist use this to jam live on stage don't you think @Alex fox ?

    Yes, we want them to use it in the studio too. You could imagine having it wired up to a bunch of great VSTs, record off your performances and then edit and put some finishing touches in on a DAW.

    FUN!

  • Alex foxAlex fox

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    This blind mouse has figured out that holding down the pads while recording a melodic loop will quantize to the setting in top left corner. This does not help with a kick/snare pattern on my end, however. So I clearly must be doing it wrong.

    You can turn the live quantise off. Would you rather it quantised after recording?

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @db909 said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    I think it's much better than iKaosilator personallly.

    Lots of apps are better than iKaossilator in many ways, but none of them have the live "one touch at a time, note replace, gesture recording" thing for melodies, etc. That's the special sauce. But KRFT is most definitely awesome. You really can just fill up the screen with loops and find a way to perform them into something coherent.

    Yep. And unlike Launchpad, Loopy etc... you can change the loops at any time since they are midi not audio. Something I think the app should make much more of in the future :).

    It would become the ultimate multi-track midi sequencer - a hardware sequencer killer.

    I'm not sure that is a midi vs audio thing. For example you can change loops at any time in blocs wave without audio dropping out. I'm assuming you mean changing loops while mid-loop and the loop you changed to picks up from the same location in time.

    I just mean that you can fundamentally rewrite the notes and timing of the loop since it's Midi.

    That's pretty tricky to do with a piece of prerecorded audio.

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    @Alex fox said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    This blind mouse has figured out that holding down the pads while recording a melodic loop will quantize to the setting in top left corner. This does not help with a kick/snare pattern on my end, however. So I clearly must be doing it wrong.

    You can turn the live quantise off. Would you rather it quantised after recording?

    No no no. :).

    It's great as it is IMO.

    You just have to hit the notes on the early side and then it works perfectly.

    I really like the live quantise because it sounds great as you actually play / experiment. And you can always turn it off.

    DrumJam and ThumbJam both have the same live (pre) quantise.

  • Alex foxAlex fox

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said
    I'm not sure that is a midi vs audio thing. For example you can change loops at any time in blocs wave without audio dropping out. I'm assuming you mean changing loops while mid-loop and the loop you changed to picks up from the same location in time.

    I just mean that you can fundamentally rewrite the notes and timing of the loop since it's Midi.

    That's pretty tricky to do with a piece of prerecorded audio.

    Also we have some pretty exciting note transformers in the pipeline that would be impossible to do with audio.

  • Alex foxAlex fox

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    No no no. :).

    It's great as it is IMO.

    You just have to hit the notes on the early side and then it works perfectly.

    I really like the live quantise because it sounds great as you actually play / experiment. And you can always turn it off.

    DrumJam and ThumbJam both have the same live (pre) quantise.

    haha ok! One idea we had was if you hit the note just a little late (like 20ms) then it would just play straight away. That might alleviate the issue!

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @Alex fox said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    This blind mouse has figured out that holding down the pads while recording a melodic loop will quantize to the setting in top left corner. This does not help with a kick/snare pattern on my end, however. So I clearly must be doing it wrong.

    You can turn the live quantise off. Would you rather it quantised after recording?

    No no no. :).

    It's great as it is IMO.

    You just have to hit the notes on the early side and then it works perfectly.

    I really like the live quantise because it sounds great as you actually play / experiment. And you can always turn it off.

    DrumJam and ThumbJam both have the same live (pre) quantise.

    I don't have anything against the pre quant. I just think the default should be off, especially for drums.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @Alex fox said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    No no no. :).

    It's great as it is IMO.

    You just have to hit the notes on the early side and then it works perfectly.

    I really like the live quantise because it sounds great as you actually play / experiment. And you can always turn it off.

    DrumJam and ThumbJam both have the same live (pre) quantise.

    haha ok! One idea we had was if you hit the note just a little late (like 20ms) then it would just play straight away. That might alleviate the issue!

    That could work.

  • Alex foxAlex fox

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Alex fox said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    No no no. :).

    It's great as it is IMO.

    You just have to hit the notes on the early side and then it works perfectly.

    I really like the live quantise because it sounds great as you actually play / experiment. And you can always turn it off.

    DrumJam and ThumbJam both have the same live (pre) quantise.

    haha ok! One idea we had was if you hit the note just a little late (like 20ms) then it would just play straight away. That might alleviate the issue!

    That could work.

    Trying it in the latest beta >:)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Or even give it as an option to switch it on or off for per or post quantise.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Any idea when the update will be available?

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    So far zero lock ups and crashes and this on a beta!!!!!
    Amazing programming!!! Kudos to the devs these guys are for real guys!!!

  • db909db909

    @Alex fox I think the quantize is fine for what it is, you can always turn it off. What may alleviate the issue is to have a legato option to turn on/off for instruments. That way the finger the can slide freely around while playing without getting thrown off by a bunch of note attacks.

  • Alex foxAlex fox

    @MonzoPro said:
    Any idea when the update will be available?

    It will be next week now due to some Ableton Link issues!

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @Alex fox said:

    @paradiddle said:
    Was thinking also something along the lines of loading in a loop and it would auto-slice/transient slice to 16 pads or user defined amount of pads. Also manual slicing of course.

    This will be implemented later as a sample slicer instrument!

    :heart:

  • AudioGusAudioGus
    edited March 2017

    @Alex fox said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Once KRFT gets midi out surely it's only a matter of time until we see some top artist use this to jam live on stage don't you think @Alex fox ?

    Yes, we want them to use it in the studio too. You could imagine having it wired up to a bunch of great VSTs, record off your performances and then edit and put some finishing touches in on a DAW.

    FUN!

    INDEED! This is the perfect balance of setup time /control and FUN I could imagine.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Alex fox said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Any idea when the update will be available?

    It will be next week now due to some Ableton Link issues!

    Thanks Alex, looking forward to it!

  • NicebutfunNicebutfun

    Any chance of ableton export in this update ?

  • Alex foxAlex fox

    @Nicebutfun said:
    Any chance of ableton export in this update ?

    no, only Ableton Link.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    New beta just released :# awesome!!
    Love the new Bass presets! Thanks Alex!
    Keyboard so much better! Link worked great with AUM ! It sped or slow down perfectly in sync!!!!

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